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#20426
Kim Shepard

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Saren's my definite overall favorite, but if it's just a question of squadmates, I'd have to say Garrus is the sentimental favorite, with Justice/Anders as a close second.

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Frankly, DA2 ruined Anders for me. He was great in Awakening, but in DA2 he made me wish I'd romanced Fenris.

There are some parallels between Garrus and Anders, but unless you seriously ran him down the renegade path, I don't see Garrus doing what Anders did.

Modifié par Brass_Buckles, 11 avril 2011 - 06:18 .


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I don't see Anders/Garrus as a viable comparison.

Just don't see it.

In other news, CHIMMY. I <3 YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE NEW BANNER! <3

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Yeah, I don't understand why some people think that if two characters have something in common, one will become the other. They both hate injustice and can be sarcastic, but their methods and overall personality are too different for one to completely follow the other's path. It's like when everyone used to worry about Garrus becoming Saren. Posted Image

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silentstephi wrote...

I don't see Anders/Garrus as a viable comparison.

Just don't see it.

In other news, CHIMMY. I <3 YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE NEW BANNER! <3

I don't either, honestly. The only trait I can think of that they have in common is determination, which.. is kind of vague, a lot of people have that trait.

PS: Lyrium tattoos and turians? We are of a like mind. B)

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I've said this before but I don't really think Anders and Garrus have much in common personality wise, but they do both fit the same character archtypes rebel/renegade/vigilante.

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If they go down the Anders route in ME3 by making him a zealous extremist who murders innocents to achieve a base goal, then I wouldn't be too happy. I honestly believe one walking atrocity not played for laughs is enough, even in-between franchises.

And quite frankly, it would be a worse case of character derailment than ME2's pre-LotSB Liara.

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Ugh if bioware did that I would be the first at their door with a ptich fork.

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Brass_Buckles wrote...

Frankly, DA2 ruined Anders for me. He was great in Awakening, but in DA2 he made me wish I'd romanced Fenris.

There are some parallels between Garrus and Anders, but unless you seriously ran him down the renegade path, I don't see Garrus doing what Anders did.


I agree. Completely.... I wanted to like Anders SO MUCH!  but.. he was just this whiny, irritating person who overdid it. *shrug*  i ilked him..... but only superficially and nostalgically. made me sad.   i don't see the comparison really either.  
honestly.... favorite BioWare character?  gods. too many.... Garrus, overall i think.  But ... Minsc, and Fenris and Joker and Zevran.... I'd have such a hard time choosing.   

And gods I hope Legion is in ME3. I freakin love Legion. Something about him is absolutely adorable. :D

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Okay, a few spoilers I just found out in the general discussion thread and how they may relate to Garrus. (HOPEFULLY this spoiler invisible thing works, I don't want to spoil anyone that doesn't want to know)

First, apparently the way they're getting around the variables regarding character death is by having temporary squadmates only along for certain missions, and it sounds like many of them will be of this variety. That way if you got that squadmate killed, then they've got a replacement (likely generic, or perhaps one of the others will work their way in there), without having to do a ton of scripting. Which means we may only get Garrus for certain parts of the game as opposed to having the turian batman with us at all times. I am praying that's not true. T_T

Also I read something regarding 'species loyalty', that Shepard must earn to get a certain species as allies. Listed among them were quarians and salarians. You know what that means: We're probably going to get a turian planet. Oh yeah. B)

Why do I get the feeling I'm going to end up doing everything in my power to get the turians on my side at the expense of any and all other races?>_>

Modifié par Aris Ravenstar, 11 avril 2011 - 02:27 .


#20436
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That last thing you said, Aris... YES. I will do that too. I know it. Hmm, this makes things interesting. Guess we'll just have to see......

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Sort of like a "What would you do for a klondike bar?" kind of deal?  In which case , my shepard...
 
would do ANYTHING *serious face*

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I think at the very least Garrus is definitely going to be our turian ambassador during any 'species loyalty' quests. Which should be awesome.

Modifié par Aris Ravenstar, 11 avril 2011 - 02:54 .


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The funny thing is since he's such a "bad" turian the visit might be very amusing ^_^.  Maybe it will be more apparent how different he acts compared to the other turians who spend their lives on their home worlds.

Modifié par Hyrule_Gal, 11 avril 2011 - 03:05 .


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Hyrule_Gal wrote...

The funny thing is since he's such a "bad" turian the visit might be very amusing ^_^.  Maybe it will be more apparent how different he acts compared to the other turians who spend their lives on their home worlds.

Probably. I just want to see him around other turians for a change, I really liked his interactions with Pallin in ME. There were almost no turians of note in ME2, and strangely, the ones that stand out (Sidonis, Kuril) made Garrus look like a model turian by comparison. :?

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I'd love to see Garrus with his family, especially his father.  Also it'd be neat if we could somehow help his mother using Mordin, and that would influence how his father feels about Shepard, especially if Garrus is your LI :)

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and really... i think its about time to meet the family. ya know, saving the world together is a bit of a commitment.... so its that time. :D

i think that for all of the LI's though. if its possible. Hell, we already got to go to the migrant fleet to meet Tali's family...

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Obsydian wrote...

and really... i think its about time to meet the family. ya know, saving the world together is a bit of a commitment.... so its that time. :D

i think that for all of the LI's though. if its possible. Hell, we already got to go to the migrant fleet to meet Tali's family...


We basically met the majority of the families, at least from the ME2 romance options.  Jacob's father, Miranda's sister, Thane's son, Tali's father (even though he was deceased....) and her aunt, and Samara's daughter.  Time for some Garrus family time <3

I wonder if his mother kept baby pictures... :P

#20444
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That's what I'm looking forward to most. Experiencing turian culture with Garrus around to comment on it. I can picture him not looking too forward to going back but doing so because we need allies and he's the only go to turian shepard has , plus it makes a great set up for a side quest with his family.

Modifié par Hyrule_Gal, 11 avril 2011 - 03:25 .


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I'm looking forward to meeting Garrus' family. And a visit to Palaven makes it seem more likely with this whole 'species loyalty' concept which sounds like a fantastic idea. I would totally get the turians on my side, they have the biggest military after all.

And then they have Garrus Vakarian...

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Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...

I'm looking forward to meeting Garrus' family. And a visit to Palaven makes it seem more likely with this whole 'species loyalty' concept which sounds like a fantastic idea. I would totally get the turians on my side, they have the biggest military after all.

And then they have Garrus Vakarian...

*spoilers!*
Well, the Salarian homeworld was confirmed yesterday, I believe. So Palaven and Thessia can't be far behind. Posted Image

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Was it? Excellent! Now seeing the technology there, that would be fascinating! From the comics however, it is quite sad that Palaven is described as a 'radiation scarred' planet. But the asymmetrical buildings and 'tough' materials used on them was how I saw it.

Maybe not all of Palaven is like that?

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Hyrule_Gal wrote...

That's what I'm looking forward to most. Experiencing turian culture with Garrus around to comment on it. I can picture him not looking too forward to going back but doing so because we need allies and he's the only go to turian shepard has , plus it makes a great set up for a side quest with his family.

Oh yeah and Shepard should make a total fool of him/herself by misunderstanding turian culture.

#20449
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Quick Garrus fanart just for fun :)

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#20450
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Fave characters, in no particular order- Saren, Tali, Garrus, Legion.

Saren because he's intriguing to me in that I find him an extremely sympathetic character in spite of his violent xenophobia.  I usually find various "-ists" and "-phobes" repugnant (truly, one of my main reasons for hating Cerberus like I do is their xenophobic stance) so to find someone for whom I felt sad who was also a "-phobe" was interesting.  Even moreso is the fact that he redeemed himself without ever backing down from that stance.  In the end he was still anti-human, and I'm sure had he survived the Nazara Incident, he'd have gone right back to trolling messing with Shepard.  Through that, however, he realized the most painful thing to him- he had screwed up big time, had betrayed the Council, and his own people.

Yes, I still feel this way even after reading "Revelation."

Tali (and Prazza & Co.) were my first introduction to the ME universe and are who really hooked me.  In the beginning, I wanted to play the game because I wanted to learn more about the mysterious dudes in gas masks.  My XO SO had picked up ME2 at a local video store that was going out of business and I was sitting beside him on the couch sketching when the whole Freedom's Progress thing happened.  I was afraid that following various SciFi tropes, the fact that they a) had their faces obscured and B) were nonhumans would make them turn out to be bad guys in the end but there was much rejoicing when they were allies.  Tali's intelligence, loyalty, and self-determination really won me over.

Quarians in general seem like pretty cooperative guys, seem to have a good sense of gender equality (I get tired of patriarchies and matriarchies both), are tech-oriented but still have a love for and appreciation of the arts, and so on...I also like their power structure and nomadic/tribal-ish ways (even though I wish they had a home.)  I guess I just identify with them.

Garrus, just...Garrus.  Dem mandibles.  He's my bro.  I really don't need to say more than that, do I?

Even though I know he's a synthetic and isn't supposed to have emotions, Legion just comes across as really kind, even-keeled, almost sorrowful over the Morning War.  Plus, he's adorable.  It's the head-flaps, I'm telling you.

Not even going into all of the minor characters I love and want to know more about...Nihlus, Kal'Reegar, Admiral Xen, Kar'Danna, Veetor, and so on~
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Species loyalty, I'm going to be getting my dextrohomies taken care of first.  Even before humans.  Yes, I'm THAT pathetic.
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Seikox, that art is awesome.  I love how Garrus is all like "Yo, 'sup, FemShep."  They look pretty relaxed and chill.

Modifié par technoquarian, 11 avril 2011 - 06:41 .