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[ciaweth]

Cra5y Pineapple wrote...

XxKarivexX wrote...

Too bad they don't have mountain dew here in the UK... I'm curious >< i've seen it talked about a lot by people

I'm also in the UK but I tried it once. Tasted like crap.

I am dissapointed at the lack of notice of my epic movie poster  (Scroll up, one post above mountain dew garrus...lol).

I like the poster a lot!  The VA's name is Brandon Keener, though, not Keer.  If you want to campaign for him to be attached to the ME movie, clicky.  BK's fan page is linked in my sig.

[Pacifien]

Mentatzoee wrote...
I still wonder about how having dextro amino acids would mean they'd taste sweet. I mean... I keep thinking they might have different proteins, thus different enzymes, then they wouldn't be able to break the same chains we break but still... I don't believe this should infuence them in tasting sweeter, since it's not sugar related.

Also, I can believe they wouldn't be able to digest the same things we do because of this enzyme difference but I don't know what to think about stuff like ethanol.

I'm no expert (or do know anything about it but I like to think about this stuff) if there's someone who knows more about this kind of things, I'd really like to have a chat!

Dextro amino acids wouldn't mean a Turian tastes sweet. It's just an offshoot of the fact that sugars have a dextro-rotary alignment. Not even all sugars are dextro-rotary either and sometimes they are both. Anyway, I think people just took that fact about sugars and applied it to amino acids 'cause it's funny?

I'm inclined to think dextro amino acids simply would have no taste. The taste buds have to recognize the molecular pattern and if the molecules are a mirror of levo amino acids, they simply don't fit. Trace your left hand on a sheet of paper. Think of that traced hand on the paper as your taste buds. Now put your right hand over it. It doesn't fit, therefor it's likely not recognized as having any taste at all.

Also, dextro amino acids do exist on Earth created from a process of racemization and can indicate aging.

I assume the toxicity aspect of the dextro amino acids in ME is actually derived from the toxic implications of other molecular chiralities such as found in medications. Many medications have both the dextro and levo forms with only one form actually being processed by your system while the other is ignored. However, severe complications have occurred in medications that have contained both forms, showing they're not always ignored.

Modifié par Pacifien, 10 juillet 2010 - 07:19 .

[Mentatzoee]

Nilf (I can't quote properly from the iPad), from what I read and understood at the codex, I thought it was just thst their biology was dextro amino acid based, but as for sugars and fats they would happen to have/use the same molecules as us.



Of course, in that case maybe the chirality of all their molecules should/might be inverted for chain-breaking reasons (as far as I know enzymes just work with the molecules they're intended to work with) or any of all these other reasons I ignore completely.



I started thinking about their taste, and while I don't have a clue if their... Err... Reproductive juices might have any sugar, I presume their tongue doesn't, and just like ours (and I might be terribly wrong here) it just has the juices tu break the sugars and thus there wouldn't be an actual reason for them to taste sweet, dextro or not.





And... I sure would like to understand more about this, and it would be great if BW had an actual science dept that could come here and enlighten us a bit about it (just like you could find some years ago a complete guide to Vulcan physiology).

[Sialater]

But the Vulcan thing was done by fanbois, wasn't it? Certainly not Gene Roddenberry or Majel Barrett.

[Mentatzoee]

I heard Asimov helped, but that might be an urban legend. I kept a printed version (that's got to be a bunch of years old now) maybe it says something there. I'll check it asap as I go to my mom's place.



@Pacifien I agree with everything you said there. XD No, I honestly do.

[Pacifien]

Mentatzoee wrote...
And... I sure would like to understand more about this, and it would be great if BW had an actual science dept that could come here and enlighten us a bit about it (just like you could find some years ago a complete guide to Vulcan physiology).

I'm pretty sure Bioware doesn't fully understand it. Other than saying Turians are based on dextro-amino acids when we know humans are based on levo-amino acids, what's there to understand?

[Sialater]

Pacifien wrote...

Mentatzoee wrote...
And... I sure would like to understand more about this, and it would be great if BW had an actual science dept that could come here and enlighten us a bit about it (just like you could find some years ago a complete guide to Vulcan physiology).

I'm pretty sure Bioware doesn't fully understand it. Other than saying Turians are based on dextro-amino acids when we know humans are based on levo-amino acids, what's there to understand?

I think the sweetness thing is just funny to stick to, doesn't matter if it's possible. 


WardlordFil had humans tasting sweet to them, too.

[Mentatzoee]

Well, I would like to know how could this actually affect their digestion, how would that end up in being allergic, or why did Garrus just bring one bottle of wine, but the turian bartrnder from the citadel (I'm awful with the names of places) tells you he'd die if he drank what he served you.



I'd really like to understand how being dextro based would affect the way they're built, or the way they work.



But yeah, maybe the guys at BW just said it for the sake of diversity, but...

[Pacifien]

Perhaps the bartender knew already he has potentially lethal reactions to levo-based amino acids, much how people know they are deathly allergic to peanuts or a bee sting. I suspect it runs the gamut from no reaction to severe and it's different for everyone. Because it can be so severe, everyone is simply warned not to attempt it.

[Kim Shepard]

It's nice to see more interspecies couples in Mass Effect aside from just the asari and something else... and I wouldn't mind their flirting as much if Shepard could tell them to back off. Even some of my MaleSheps wouldn't appreciate that. It's like "Hey, my girlfriend is standing right there!" in some cases. And they're just not my FemSheps' preference. They dismiss the claims that the asari are not an entirely female race.

But I'm glad turians are starting to give other species a chance - humans (the most important one for us), quarians, possibly even krogan (I still think they'd have a lot of angry krogan men after them for that, so I'm not sure if Garrus was just joking or not).

I don't have much to add about the dextro/levo amino acids because I don't really understand that much about it.  xD I don't need to know the details. I agree that how bad the allergic reactions are probably depends on each individual person though. Some can be more tolerant to it than others.

kglaser wrote...

And the Inamorda quest actually glitched for me the last time through...I gave the package to Opold, and then went back to see how upset Inamorda would be, and he said something like, "OK I got my package now beat it, they'll get suspicious if they see us talking!" Huh?? o_o LOL

I thought Opold was going to give the package to Inamorda when he got it anyway? There's so many different ways to solve that sidequest, which is nice, but it can get a little confusing. That's why I messed up on my first try. I was supposed to make MaleShep tell Opold that he's keeping the package to make Inamorda appear at the Normandy. I made him give Opold the package instead.

[Pacifien]

I tend to ignore the Opold quest, thinking if he made a deal with a krogan, he should have had a solid plan to handle it rather than taking the easy way out with my spectre status. It didn't even occur to me until reading on the old forums that you could take Opold's situation directly to Anoleis to bypass all the trouble with getting a garage pass. But Anoleis needs a good slap down.

[Collider]

I never liked the Asari as a race. There are individuals like Samara and Aria that are fine, but just the race concept to me was lackluster. I also echo Kim's criticism of the flirting. Shepard has to just stand there as the Consort rubs against him/her etc. Don't like that.

[Kim Shepard]

My MaleShep is an Earthborn who's used to that sort of smuggling quest, and he's good at them too. He also hates politics and told Parasini that he just doesn't like her. I guess it won't be so bad to replay Noveria with MaleShep. It was a lot of fun.

I almost didn't do the Consort side quest because of that, but I wanted him to talk with the elcor and Septimus. Actually, I think I'll have to do that one again too... not exactly looking forward to it, but I like hearing Septimus say he would make a good General (that was MaleShep's dream before all of this Reaper stuff happened).

Unless I'm forgetting someone, the only asari whose character I like is Aria. She's also one of the few asari who doesn't flirt with Shepard. Maybe there's a connection between the two. My Earthborn Ruthless MaleShep (not my current MaleShep, he's a Sole Survivor) would be a little disappointed that she's not a romance option though. He hates the unwelcome flirting more than any of them, but the one time it would be welcome... there's none of it. xD

[XxKarivexX]

Collider wrote...

I never liked the Asari as a race. There are individuals like Samara and Aria that are fine, but just the race concept to me was lackluster. I also echo Kim's criticism of the flirting. Shepard has to just stand there as the Consort rubs against him/her etc. Don't like that.

Yup, I know what you mean.  I was playing ME1 today and I got to the conversation with Liara about how there are "rumors" about Asari being an over-sexualised bimbo race but then I just have to look at all the evidence we're given
(Samara's outfit, Liara's urge to jump your bones, the asari that flirt with Shepard throughout the games and I don't know but I found the way Liara talked about mind-melding and sex amongst the asari to be pretty casual)

However, I do really like Samara as a character and she is one of the squadmates that I will be sad to see go, if she leaves after ME2

Modifié par XxKarivexX, 10 juillet 2010 - 10:48 .

[Giggles_Manically]

We keep forgetting as a femshep to say: NOT A LESBIAN!, should solve all your problems.



Besides the only one for my femshep is Garrus.

[Kim Shepard]

It should solve the Liara problem, unless your games work like mine did with MaleShep and continue the romance anyway after the romance-ending conversation, but it doesn't solve the problem of those other asari like the Consort. (My Shepards support Renegade interrupts to unwelcome flirting in ME3! xD Just imagine it - the reporter punch, with the Harkin beatdown thrown in there too. And Tali's "I have a shotgun" quote.)

[lovgreno]

Kim Shepard wrote...

It's nice to see more interspecies couples in Mass Effect aside from just the asari and something else... and I wouldn't mind their flirting as much if Shepard could tell them to back off. Even some of my MaleSheps wouldn't appreciate that. It's like "Hey, my girlfriend is standing right there!" in some cases. And they're just not my FemSheps' preference. They dismiss the claims that the asari are not an entirely female race

Bringing a LI Jack to the planet of women with no personal boundaries, aka Illium, could not end pretty. Jack would go berserk on the woman who tries to kiss her man. And then kick Shepards behind for just standing there like a idiot letting women having their way with him.

Garrus on the other hand probably knows how some asari can be so he won't be too jelaous I think.

[Giggles_Manically]

Or what I do in DA;

Wynne: You know <gives the talk>

Me: Ok, <goes and macs out with whichever LI for a good hour>





I wonder if Turians do make out, or if Garrus would though?

[Kim Shepard]

lovgreno wrote...

Bringing a LI Jack to the planet of women with no personal boundaries, aka Illium, could not end pretty. Jack would go berserk on the woman who tries to kiss her man. And then kick Shepards behind for just standing there like a idiot letting women having their way with him.

Garrus on the other hand probably knows how some asari can be so he won't be too jelaous I think.

The Shepard I have planned for Jack's romance would like to watch that. xD He also wouldn't be the type to just stand there either.

I agree about Garrus. He doesn't seem like the jealous type, so my FemShep would just have to be the one going berserk on those asari. She can fight like an angry biotic krogan and justify her actions by saying "I'm a Spectre."

[kglaser]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

God back when I was a lurkin, and read about the mountain dew thing, I couldnt drink that or Sprite for over a month.

[lovgreno]

Giggles_Manically wrote...
I wonder if Turians do make out, or if Garrus would though?

With those impressive tounges the turians have I belive they should manage to do something similar to making out. Buggirl wrote a story where it is described in detail actualy, it is very not safe for work though so read at your own risk. You have been warned.

[kglaser]

I support that theory as being plausible. And I support that story as being very good.

[Jackalope]

Baileys and Mass Effect tonight. Not the best drink choice, but I thought it would be a nice twist.



Also, I'm out of wine and rum.

[kglaser]

Reminds me of the TV ad. "Bailey's (and Mass Effect)...always drink (and game) responsibly."
Or, not. XD

Modifié par kglaser, 11 juillet 2010 - 12:37 .

[Cra5y Pineapple]

The only Asari I ever liked were Trinity Aria because she's badass and a friend of Wrex; and the Matriarch Bartender...because...who doesn't like her? Other than that I don't like them. They talk about being hard to get yet all they do is sleep around alot, become strippers and there's also a merc thing...

Quoting Epitrantas or whatever her name was...RELEASE THE ASARI GENOPHAGE!!!

Modifié par Cra5y Pineapple, 11 juillet 2010 - 12:40 .