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CulturalGeekGirl wrote...

See, I love Garrus... but for me he's like that guy who you don't think is hot until you've known him for a long time, and it comes up somehow and makes you rethink everything. And while I think turians are very pretty, I don't think I prefer them over humans inhernetly.

That's how my interest in him progressed, anyway. In the first game I was like"you're a decent guy, Garrus, but you're no Wrex or Kaidan." In Mass Effect 2 I was like "Oh thank God a friendly face, also, you've become more self-deprecating which is +50 sexypoints in my book." Then "I'm bored, so I'm going to talk to you, because everyone else is boring or out of dialogue." And onto "I... am actually very charmed, also I want to help you feel better about yourself." And then finally "You are truly the most loyal and trustworthy person I have ever met, you get me, and we need each other."

Pretty much this, only I find turians quite handsome.

Seriously, Nihlus walks onto the screen, and I immediately decide Mass Effect is my new favorite game.

Anyway, haven't forgotten about my Partinax speech/"project."  Just really need to focus on schoolwork.

Also, I really do hope to see a more "mature" Garrus in ME3.  I don't expect him to lose his passion, but I wouldn't mind seeing a more level-headed, big picture kind of guy.

EDIT: Crap, TotP.  Hangon, y'all...

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Garrus is jealous of Jack's eyewear...  Imagine how he feels about Grunt after AAP2.

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AdmiralCheez wrote...

Garrus is jealous of Jack's eyewear...  Imagine how he feels about Grunt after AAP2.


When I first saw Grunt in that pack, all I could think was "YOU MAY BE KROGAN BUT YOU WILL NEVER BE PURE DOUBLE VISOR KROGAN. YOU SHOULD BE IN AWE."

Anyway, just happened upon this (after a friend showed me Nyanders) and thought I'd share. I present to you "Saren Fights A Bear"
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By Kundagi

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I love Kundagi. Best random fanart ever, I swear.

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AdmiralCheez wrote...

CulturalGeekGirl wrote...

See, I love Garrus... but for me he's like that guy who you don't think is hot until you've known him for a long time, and it comes up somehow and makes you rethink everything. And while I think turians are very pretty, I don't think I prefer them over humans inhernetly.

That's how my interest in him progressed, anyway. In the first game I was like"you're a decent guy, Garrus, but you're no Wrex or Kaidan." In Mass Effect 2 I was like "Oh thank God a friendly face, also, you've become more self-deprecating which is +50 sexypoints in my book." Then "I'm bored, so I'm going to talk to you, because everyone else is boring or out of dialogue." And onto "I... am actually very charmed, also I want to help you feel better about yourself." And then finally "You are truly the most loyal and trustworthy person I have ever met, you get me, and we need each other."

Pretty much this, only I find turians quite handsome.

Seriously, Nihlus walks onto the screen, and I immediately decide Mass Effect is my new favorite game.

Anyway, haven't forgotten about my Partinax speech/"project."  Just really need to focus on schoolwork.

Also, I really do hope to see a more "mature" Garrus in ME3.  I don't expect him to lose his passion, but I wouldn't mind seeing a more level-headed, big picture kind of guy.

EDIT: Crap, TotP.  Hangon, y'all...

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Garrus is jealous of Jack's eyewear...  Imagine how he feels about Grunt after AAP2.


"Not so fast, cheerleader."

*puts on sunglasses*

"No one wants to take orders from you."

YYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!

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Garrus will have his own predefined personality in ME3, as he did in ME1 and ME2. Shepard might have some affect in guiding him to see different perspectives, but he'll always be himself. So if he starts leaning more toward a paragon philosophy, it's still only going to be Paragon-with-a-Garrus-twist. That is to say, he'll still be a renegade with a heart of gold, but perhaps not so ruthless. That is how I see it, at least. (Conversely, going renegade with him only reaffirms his renegade tendencies, and thus encourages his ruthless tactics.) I think, if people expect him to change because Shepard says so, they'll continue to be disappointed...I don't think that's what the devs had in mind in ME1 and from ME1 to ME2...certainly seems that way considering just how it was handled.

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I really don't get why people were so upset with their influence over a character not holding. I mean, seriously, it's hard to change your point of view on something even if someone you highly respect advises you to. The fact that the paragonization of Garrus didn't stick shows that he's his own person, and won't become someone else just because Shepard told him to.

Also, he comes across as fairly young and incredibly stubborn. What did you expect?

EDIT: I do, however, fully expect him to cool down a little in ME3.

Modifié par AdmiralCheez, 02 mai 2011 - 02:04 .


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@Obys:hmmmm poses? Idk if u want "sexed up" turians or poses based off their personalities?

Garrus is the "sarcastic badass" so ........OH! You could repilcatethat pose he did when Shep finally met up with him in me2 or something similar?Posted ImagePosted ImagePosted Image i melt everytime i see him like that.

to this day- i think- of ALL ways to greet Shep: He sits like THAT XDDD LOVE him....and the brilliant ppl @BW.
Nihlus: He's the "Respectible" one- but u know what- Imma leave that one up to you. Posted Image Nihlus is in good hands.
Who else do u plan to put into the picture? I got an idea that the turian bartender should be leaning on some table with a grin holding a shot glass in one hand near his face X3


I was totally thinking that for Garrus.  It really is the hottest pose I can think of for him. I also melt at that one. I think that when I first saw that scene... the very first time... I made some inappropriate noises. come to think of it, i usually make some inappropriate noises there. :D
 I'd like them to be in character, you know?  
I like that idea for the bartender. I'mma have to start takin notes. lol. but yes... I really like the bartender idea.  

I'mma put allll the cool turians in there lol.  the list that we've been making.  
Nihlus
Garrus
Saren
techno turian
the bartender
Lorik 
Gavorn
Counselor Valern
Li
um... others?   

So ok- we got garrus down then with the shot i linked XP That was quick. lol. And yay for turian Bartender. He could have that mixing glass in the other hand maybe? 

For valern---air quotes in the backgorund? XD I totally imagine him saying this: "Ah yes- A Turian Harem. The wild fantasy of human female admirers to which many deem worthy to gather the most fascinating individuals of our species. We have dismissed that claim.

& I think thats enough turians. Though dount turian would be hilarious. We dont want it to be TOO crowded.

Modifié par ArcanaLegacy, 02 mai 2011 - 02:02 .


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YES DONUT TURIAN. WITH DONUTS.

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AdmiralCheez wrote...

YES DONUT TURIAN. WITH DONUTS.

I'm waiting for the Turian merchant who screwed over refund guy to make a return...

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Or Urinal turian. At a stall in the background, either ignoring every1 or giving us that look he gave us in the game XD

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Urinal turian has the best facepaint. I wonder where he's from...

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AdmiralCheez wrote...

CulturalGeekGirl wrote...

See, I love Garrus... but for me he's like that guy who you don't think is hot until you've known him for a long time, and it comes up somehow and makes you rethink everything. And while I think turians are very pretty, I don't think I prefer them over humans inhernetly.

That's how my interest in him progressed, anyway. In the first game I was like"you're a decent guy, Garrus, but you're no Wrex or Kaidan." In Mass Effect 2 I was like "Oh thank God a friendly face, also, you've become more self-deprecating which is +50 sexypoints in my book." Then "I'm bored, so I'm going to talk to you, because everyone else is boring or out of dialogue." And onto "I... am actually very charmed, also I want to help you feel better about yourself." And then finally "You are truly the most loyal and trustworthy person I have ever met, you get me, and we need each other."

Pretty much this, only I find turians quite handsome.

Seriously, Nihlus walks onto the screen, and I immediately decide Mass Effect is my new favorite game.

Anyway, haven't forgotten about my Partinax speech/"project."  Just really need to focus on schoolwork.

Also, I really do hope to see a more "mature" Garrus in ME3.  I don't expect him to lose his passion, but I wouldn't mind seeing a more level-headed, big picture kind of guy.

EDIT: Crap, TotP.  Hangon, y'all...

Oh, Turians are handsome alright - that's sort of what I meant by pretty. For me, "pretty" means good-looking but not necessarily in an inherently sexy way. A "Sort of want... definitely want to look at" kind of thing, like a beautiful woman or a sexy robot (or a sexy robot woman.) I've talked about Turian strippers before - the uniqueness and alienness of the anatomy makes them much more interesting to observe. I would still rather go to a Turian strip club than a human one. I'd definitely prefer to go to a Turian life-drawing class, though a Salarian one would also be interesting.

When Nihlus came on screen I got a very strong "Want to befriend and glomp that" response, but for me that's very different than "Must... remove... clothing." It's also much more common, the only fictional characters I can recall who immediately evoked blazing crushes were Vincent Valentine (I know, shut up. I was young!) and Zelgadis Greywords. Well, and Wash. "Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!" 

Actually, now that I think about it, that writer's reference to Garrus being Wash + Mercutio might mean he's maturing. Mercutio is a witty, egotistical idiot-badass, but Wash is only immature in fun ways, but he's also the most compassionate and emotionally stable person on that ship. Having Garrus take a slightly-more-laid-back "I'm here if you need me, and also, Quips!" attitude in ME3 would be simply divine. I also hope he keeps our Paragonning and Renegading of him... I actually saw someone in another thread comment on how she actually noticed a significant difference in Garrus's general attitude based on how you mold him in both ME1 and ME2. It would be interesting to do both kinds of playthroughs and really pay attention to the changes. I think the actual changes are small, but we really have only small clues to all the characters' personalities anyway.

The lesson my Shepard has been trying to teach Garrus is that you can get things done with planning and diplomacy, and you don't need to throw everything out the window the first time something goes wrong. You're more good to us alive and sane, Garrus! Stop trying to go crazy and get killed! 

On Garrus's self confidence and further development: There was a thread a few days ago about characters not being worried about the suicide mission, and Cheez pointed out that Garrus is one of the only people to express serious concerns that it will go badly, showing his current tendency toward pessimism. I was thinking about how having him lead one of the fire teams (and succeed) and getting the No One Left Behind achievment might put another tick in his self-confidence bar. "Hey, I was given a major leadership role and nothing bad happened! Also, something went pretty much totally right, for once!" I doubt the writers will factor that in, but I'm putting it in my personal cannon, at least. And who knows, they might. Honestly, I think surviving characters having their outlooks on life colored by how many people died on the SM would be pretty amazing.

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ArcanaLegacy wrote...

Or Urinal turian. At a stall in the background, either ignoring every1 or giving us that look he gave us in the game XD


YES. he has to be in there.   I adore urinal turian due to his facial markings. :D  

And yeah.. CCG.  Wash seriously was 'love at first sight' for me.  I see what you're saying about the difference between pretty and OMGWANT.    

I can honestly say when Nihlus walked on the screen the first time I definitly had OMGWANT.  Same with Garrus.   I agree that they're attractive in a 'pleasant to look at' sorta way... but I also find them very sexually attractive as well. Honestly, they have all the physical traits i look for in males anyway.  tall, thin, muscular.... and I've always had a thing for both facial markings and nifty head-things, such as fringe or crests. 

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I wouldn't object if ME3 became overcrowded with turians. :P:lol:
How about going to a nightclub on Palaven where even the bouncers were turian?  can you imagine that, just a whole room full of turians dancing to Flux music? lol :o

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Obsydian wrote...

And yeah.. CCG.  Wash seriously was 'love at first sight' for me.  I see what you're saying about the difference between pretty and OMGWANT.    

I can honestly say when Nihlus walked on the screen the first time I definitly had OMGWANT.  Same with Garrus.   I agree that they're attractive in a 'pleasant to look at' sorta way... but I also find them very sexually attractive as well. Honestly, they have all the physical traits i look for in males anyway.  tall, thin, muscular.... and I've always had a thing for both facial markings and nifty head-things, such as fringe or crests. 


Three things I look for in dudes: Good hair, no beard, and shoulders.

Turians get a neutral on the first two - their crests are nice, and they obviously don't have facial hair, but both those qualities are too different from my normal measuring criteria to invoke my conditioned response.

However, Turian shoulders: unf. Every time Garrus turns to the side in that armor, I grin a little.

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speaking of Flux music. i just looked at the specs for the visor... I like how Garrus has club music ready to play in his ear while he's shooting at people. This makes me very very happy.

And yes. a room full of turians would make me a VERY happy Obsy.


specially if one of them was a particular turian. 

]omg.  yes CCG!!  the shoulders.  

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Obsydian wrote...

I like that idea for the bartender. I'mma have to start takin notes. lol. but yes... I really like the bartender idea.  

I'mma put allll the cool turians in there lol.  the list that we've been making.  
Nihlus
Garrus
Saren
techno turian
the bartender
Lorik 
Gavorn
Counselor Valern
Li
um... others?   


I JUST REALIZED. Lorik & Turian Bartender... OTP. :lol:

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@CGG: Oh, man. Turian life-drawing. That reminds me of a completely stupid idea I had for an exploratory fanfic--alien exchange students. I wanted to delve into the life of the average Earth citizen at my age, goof around with the political shenanigans the Alliance and Hierarchy would get into to improve relations with one another, go in-depth with the racism, culture gap, and all those other goodies that go with sharing the galaxy with aliens... And I'd do it with minimal drama and no smut, because we really don't see enough of what it's like to actually live in the Mass Effect universe. There was going to be a life-drawing scene where one of the turian "young ambassadors" volunteered to model and freaked out half the class, what with being made of knives and all.

I, personally, have a problem distinguishing fascination from attraction. Herp derp.

And I must say, I am excited about the Mercutio comparison as well. Seriously, as much as I hated Romeo and Juliet, I really liked the guy--he was confident and goofy, and the first person to tell Romeo he was being an idiot, but stuck by him to the bitter end. A true bro.

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Turians = handsome?

*MIND = BLOWN*

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turians = very handsome and very sexy.

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Obsydian wrote...

turians = very handsome and very sexy.


This.  Sexiest aliens evar. <3

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CulturalGeekGirl wrote...
 the uniqueness and alienness of the anatomy makes them much more interesting to observe. I would still rather go to a Turian strip club than a human one.

I was thinking about how having him lead one of the fire teams (and succeed) and getting the No One Left Behind achievment might put another tick in his self-confidence bar. "Hey, I was given a major leadership role and nothing bad happened! Also, something went pretty much totally right, for once!" I doubt the writers will factor that in, but I'm putting it in my personal cannon, at least.


I think as soon as Nihlus was on screen, we all were taken with the species. Its different and unique, something we havent seen before. Our curiousity struck a cord and possibly many of us got a cupid's arrow @ the same time? Posted Image I personally found them intriguing. And that was just Nihlus. Watching his movements, i wanted to learn more about them. I havent really played many games that involve other species. Given the exception to games Zelda and Ratchet & Clank. So i took a liking to seeing a character that was so different compared to what Ive encountered in other media. When nihlus died- i was p-ed off. Its like me reading a book- and taking it away just as it got good. But then along came garrus and my interest peaked again. Another turian!!

And i was thinking the same concept you did there with putting Garrus as the fireteam leader. He's gone through so much, and I know he has leadership skills. Maybe not the greatest of judgements but he's still a great guy and loyal. I put him as leader as a confidence booster to him because i knew he could do it. Maybe putting him as leader, he realized that Shep has faith in him as a person [er...turian?] and his leadership skills. Heck- I put him as the fireteam leader BOTH times. Let him also have a moment to shine, since his always in shep's "shadow". He might get the idea that things go wary without shepard- but putting him a leader can test himself and he can see that that's not the case. Im hoping as well that theres a moment of reference in me3 where it shows it had a positive effect. And more opportunities to have Garrus get more confidence in himself. Put him as a leader in more scenarios to better show the fruits of his labor. 

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I just started watching Firefly (I've been meaning to for a long time because my friends kept recommanding it, but really, finding out Garrus was going to be influenced by a character from it really got me to start).  I'm three episodes in, but I had this wonder even before watching it.

In terms of Garrus having some influence by Wash, do you think that could also mean relationship wise?  Such as how Wash and Zoe treat each other and their relationship.  I think it's cute and wouldn't mind Garrus being like that too.

Interviewer: So, Vakarian, what was it that attracted you to Commander Shepard?
Garrus:  Well, first it was the legs.  And the area between the legs and the back.  Well, and the top half too.  And have you ever had a warrior women in bed?
Interviewer:...Okay...

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ArcanaLegacy wrote...

And i was thinking the same concept you did there with putting Garrus as the fireteam leader. He's gone through so much, and I know he has leadership skills. Maybe not the greatest of judgements but he's still a great guy and loyal. I put him as leader as a confidence booster to him because i knew he could do it. Maybe putting him as leader, he realized that Shep has faith in him as a person [er...turian?] and his leadership skills. Heck- I put him as the fireteam leader BOTH times. Let him also have a moment to shine, since his always in shep's "shadow". He might get the idea that things go wary without shepard- but putting him a leader can test himself and he can see that that's not the case. Im hoping as well that theres a moment of reference in me3 where it shows it had a positive effect. And more opportunities to have Garrus get more confidence in himself. Put him as a leader in more scenarios to better show the fruits of his labor. 

Yeah, Garrus is always the fire team leader for me, too.  I make Tali the escort for similar reasons--twice she's gotten the people under her killed; getting the Normandy crew to safety will restore faith in herself.

Well, she also brings down my "hold the line" score and is worthless against Collectors...

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Hihane wrote...
Interviewer: So, Vakarian, what was it that attracted you to Commander Shepard?
Garrus:  Well, first it was the legs.  And the area between the legs and the back.  Well, and the top half too.  And have you ever had a warrior women in bed?
Interviewer:...Okay...


AHAHAHAHAHA. That is absolutely perfect, also it almost made me snarf. Well done.