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[Obsydian]

Agreed with Rei. Seriously. There really isn't anything I can think of that I would choose over Garrus.

Cept maybe the ressurection of Nihlus.
yup. thats really about it.

oooo.  TOTP.  snuck up on me there, didntcha. 

person.

Modifié par Obsydian, 09 mai 2011 - 01:59 .

[CulturalGeekGirl]

Edit: actually, screw it. No need to bum anyone out too much, or give people too many... ideas.

/nevermind

Modifié par CulturalGeekGirl, 09 mai 2011 - 02:04 .

[AresXX7]

Just sneaking in to say Happy Mother's Day.

Here's a couple of pics to lighten the mood up.
(don't know if they're old news to you folks)






These are courtesy of the talent found at devianART.

BOT: It would be a travesty to kill off Garrus in ME3.

Modifié par AriesXX7, 09 mai 2011 - 02:05 .

[Obsydian]

CCG..... now i want to know.

and that baby Garrus. OMG . WANT. that has to be the most adorable thing i've EVER seen. without doubt.

[MoonEcho]

Aw, CGG! No need to censor yourself. Your posts are always so thoughtful.

Really, whatever happens in ME3 is well and far away, so I can't take any of this speculation TOO seriously. And I would hazard a guess that the events of ME3 are pretty firmed up at this point, so I think it will be hard to give them ideas that swerve 'em too far away from wherever they're going, anyway.

Although levity is good. Even if something tragic happens in ME3, we always have this golden, blissful time of sweet ignorance from now until then. Happy Turian art, hooray!

[Obsydian]

MoonEcho wrote...

Aw, CGG! No need to censor yourself. Your posts are always so thoughtful.

Really, whatever happens in ME3 is well and far away, so I can't take any of this speculation TOO seriously. And I would hazard a guess that the events of ME3 are pretty firmed up at this point, so I think it will be hard to give them ideas that swerve 'em too far away from wherever they're going, anyway.

Although levity is good. Even if something tragic happens in ME3, we always have this golden, blissful time of sweet ignorance from now until then. Happy Turian art, hooray!

Truer words never were spoke, Moon.   

[AdmiralCheez]

Now I MUST know what CGG said.

EDIT:  Ooh!  Name that turian!  I love this game!

1. Quarantine zone guard.
2. Septimus.
3. Saren.
4. Nihlus.
5. Lorik muthaf*ckin' Qui'in.
6. Li.
7. Grizz.
8. Pallin.
9. Garrus.
10. Afterlife bartender.
11. Chellick.
12. C-Sec guy.
13. Rodam Expeditions guy (forgot his name).
14. PGK.
15. Darkstar bartender.
16. Uh.... crap.
17. Councilor "Air Quotes" Valern.
18. Warden Kuril.
19. Sidonis.
20. That one guy Kolyat was hired to kill.

Modifié par AdmiralCheez, 09 mai 2011 - 02:44 .

[CulturalGeekGirl]

Ok, Ok FINE. YOU LITERALLY ASKED FOR IT.

I was trying to think of a scenario where I would have to make the decision to sacrifice Garrus, and this was all I could come up with.This is the worst thing they could do, but I doubt even Bioware would be so cruel: 

Garrus decides to sacrifice himself to save Palaven. If you prevent this sacrifice, Palaven is destroyed, as is Garrus's family. The Turian colonies erupt in civil war, and Garrus hates you forever.

Now that is a lose lose situation.

Modifié par CulturalGeekGirl, 09 mai 2011 - 02:56 .

[Obsydian]

CulturalGeekGirl wrote...

Ok, Ok FINE. YOU LITERALLY ASKED FOR IT.

I was trying to think of a scenario where I would have to make the decision to sacrifice Garrus, and this was all I could come up with.This is the worst thing they could do, but I doubt even Bioware would be so cruel: 

Garrus decides to sacrifice himself to save Palaven. If you prevent this sacrifice, Palaven is destroyed, as is Garrus's family. The Turian colonies erupt in civil war, and Garrus hates you forever.

Now that is a lose lose situation.

wow. I  ... I didn't even think about that. I'm not sure that BioWare would do that. but... damn. 

I have to say... i have NO FREAKING CLUE what i would do in that case. I guess I'd let him do it. I mean...  if thats what he wants, right?    "If you love someone, let them go."  and all. 

wow. 
Now i'm gonna think about this all night.


Edit:  i am the failsauce.

Modifié par Obsydian, 09 mai 2011 - 03:36 .

[AdmiralCheez]

That would pretty much suck, yes.

You know what else would suck? If at some point you had to make a decision that would divide your team. Like the focus on Sovereign/save the Council thing, only on a much bigger scale, where personal loyalties will get in the way. You can choose to do the "right" thing, which is incredibly risky and may do more harm than good in the end, but saves possibly billions of innocent lives; or you can do the "safe" thing, in which you protect your military strongholds and keep at least a step ahead of the Reapers, but allow entire worlds to burn because they hold no strategic value

Do the smart thing, Garrus plus everyone who thinks with their hearts leave your team to try to save all those people themselves. Risk the entire war effort, and your strategically-minded squadmates will split off to try to negate the risk. Either way, possibly up to half your team could die.

PS: And if losing Garrus was the only way to save so many others, go for it, you crazy bastard.  The team's gonna miss you. *salute*

Modifié par AdmiralCheez, 09 mai 2011 - 03:09 .

[AresXX7]

Name that Turian.

isn't #16 Gavorn?

ETA: I don't think #8 is Pallin, his face markings don't look thick enough.

Modifié par AriesXX7, 09 mai 2011 - 03:32 .

[Platform_Error]

CulturalGeekGirl wrote...

Ok, Ok FINE. YOU LITERALLY ASKED FOR IT.

I was trying to think of a scenario where I would have to make the decision to sacrifice Garrus, and this was all I could come up with.This is the worst thing they could do, but I doubt even Bioware would be so cruel: 

Garrus decides to sacrifice himself to save Palaven. If you prevent this sacrifice, Palaven is destroyed, as is Garrus's family. The Turian colonies erupt in civil war, and Garrus hates you forever.

Now that is a lose lose situation.

The only thing that could make this slightly less horrible would be if Shepard is given the option to go down with him in his blaze of glory. And my Shepard soooo would.

[MoonEcho]

See, now the healing can begin. "Ah, yes, the super depressing scenario of either Garrus dying or Garrus hating you, with no way out. We have dismissed these claims."

It's not outside the realm of possibility that Bioware could set up a scenario that depressing, and indeed, they do pull capers where it seems like it's a choice between your squadmate's regard of you and actually helping them. Tali's loyalty mission comes to mind. Hell, Garrus' too... my first playthrough with my Paragon Shep I was too afraid not to let him shoot Sidonis for fear of his scorn.

However...Bioware would be damn foolish if they didn't use a little more finesse than a 'Dead-or-scornful' Garrus scenario without some kind of Persuasion/sidequest way out. I don't think they hate us quite that badly.

Modifié par MoonEcho, 09 mai 2011 - 03:31 .

[CulturalGeekGirl]

An argument on a different thread made me remember a bit in Justice League Unlimited that I really liked. It's at the end of this clip (the apt bit is about 30 seconds in). It's a phone conversation between our heroine the Huntress and the adorkable Question. Which made me think of Garrus and Shep. Which made me think of this.

Radio logs: private channel opened.

"So, what are you wearing?" 
"Blue C-sec armor, scouter." 
"Pfft, you really stink at this." 
"...Shield boosters?"

Channel disconnect.

Modifié par CulturalGeekGirl, 09 mai 2011 - 04:03 .

[Leonia]

Eh, I don't know how it would play out. Obviously he cares about his family but the entire turian species and the Hierarchy? I don't think he'd risk his life for all of them. But there's certainly a chance, given the way he rushes head first into danger, of him trying to do the right thing during an overly risky situation where Shepard may be forced to try to hold hm back.

My thing is this: Garrus could have died in ME2. He almost died on Omega, heck he probably wanted to before Shepard showed up. He's had more brushes with death than any other squad-mte. Tali is in a similar boat.. she could have died on Haestrom and she could die during the Suicide Mission. Or she could just not have been recruited. These are fan favourites. I would wager their deaths in ME3 are avoidable.

The rest of the ME1 cast.. not so sure about. I'd like to see Liara lose her plot armour at some point. I'd hate to see Wrex go (especially since he could have died in ME1) and the VS has barely came out of Virmire unscathed.

But of all of them, I think Garrus came the closest to dieing right there on Omega and there better a damn way to prevent it in ME3 because he's been given a second chance to reach that fabled "full potential".

If it came to it though, I'd make whatever choice I had to to keep him alive, he deserves to make the most of his second chance. Even if it came down to choosing between Shepard's life or Garrus'.. I will go out of my way for that turian.

Modifié par leonia42, 09 mai 2011 - 04:05 .

[Fiery Phoenix]

leonia42 wrote...

[...] Even if it came down to choosing between Shepard's life or Garrus'.. I will go out of my way for that turian.

[Obsydian]

leonia42 wrote...


If it came to it though, I'd make whatever choice I had to to keep him alive, he deserves to make the most of his second chance. Even if it came down to choosing between Shepard's life or Garrus'.. I will go out of my way for that turian.

and speaking of DA:O inspired choices. 

would you make him sleep with Morrigan to create a demon/mutant baby so he could survive the Archdemon? 

Wow I just had an epiphany. Archdemon vs Archangel.   I mayhav eto draw that.  Why do i have so many fanart ideas . 

but really though, I would totally sac myself (or my Shepard) for that turian. There really is very little I wouldn't do for him. 

[Leonia]

Yes. I made Alistair do it and I'd make Garrus do it too, damn it. Nobody is killing Archangel so long as I have a say so.

[Fiery Phoenix]

To be honest, I knew something wasn't exactly right when Patrick Weekes compared Garrus to Firefly's Wash on Twitter the other week.

[Obsydian]

leonia42 wrote...

Yes. I made Alistair do it and I'd make Garrus do it too, damn it. Nobody is killing Archangel so long as I have a say so.

amen to this, sister. 

seriously though. I did the same...  all the time. (though i still did try it without, just so i could get the different endings)  
So long as he doesn't blow up a church. break up with me cause its for the best. nevermind.  

[CulturalGeekGirl]

I live in hope that that particular reference was put there to troll us, hoping to incite this exact kind of drama and discussion.

In other words: it is fun to poke the beehive.

[Leonia]

Wash has other admirable qualities..and technically Garrus can suffer a similar fate in ME2. He's already Wash-like as far as I can see, maybe he'll get more humorous and witty in ME3? Let's be hopeful here.

[AdmiralCheez]

Weekes is trolling us. He knows we enjoy it.

Modifié par AdmiralCheez, 09 mai 2011 - 04:31 .

[Obsydian]

Dear *insert diety here*
Please give Garrus toy dinosaurs to reside on his console to help him calibrate. They can keep him company while I'm not around.
He can make them befriend and betray each other.
It will be adorable.
Thank you.
Obsy