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[Andaius20]

Kim Shepard wrote...

Yeah, I just enjoy playing characters more. None of my Shepards or Wardens are like me. Well, MainShep and I like the same characters - that's why she's MainShep. I wouldn't have a MainShep who talks bad about my favorites. xD (The "Saren's Shepard" title really works for her, doesn't it? I still wonder what Saren would think about it though. "Your Shepard belongs to me?")

Sometimes it's hard to play the Shepards who say/do things I really disagree with, like making MaleShep insult Saren and talk about killing him. Or EvilShep, who will bring Morinth on his team.

I do the same thing. Mainshep is how I would do it personally if I was in the world. Then I explore other possibilities. with RPing different personalities.  


EDIT: Top of the page pic!

Modifié par Andaius20, 14 juillet 2010 - 04:55 .

[Andaius20]

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

I do a mix of those things. I couldn't play a character I blatantly disagreed with until quite recently. Then, I had a revelation. I write a lot of stories and obviously many of my characters in those stories are nothing like me at all. So I thought, what if I just import the personality of "character X" from my story and use him/her as a model for my Shepard? I have found this works beautifully. This way, I know the personality already and feel like I have a stake in it because it is a character I created, but I don't feel uncomfortable making the character say something I wouldn't. My mainshep (paragade) is basically me imported into the game. (A much more assertive, badass, charismatic me obviously. I mean our morals are the same.)

Same thinking comes into play for more RPer's you come up with a general Idea of who and how a character will be and make choices to tha tend

[Aricle]

Kim Shepard wrote...

Aricle wrote...

It's making me think about what I do more than usual (which is enough as is) to go the RP route. I enjoy your take with Saren's Shepard. When you describe your Shepards' thought processes, it makes more sense to me. Like Goat, I tend to be me behind the RP, my feet show beneath the outfit.

I actually find myself not liking this new Shepard of late, which makes it easier to play a role rather than extension-me. The part of me that likes Kaidan wants her to be a good fit with him in the end, in ME3; she may not be, which will make that much more interesting. Nevertheless, she is going to be faithful to Kaidan in ME2.

Yeah, I just enjoy playing characters more. None of my Shepards or Wardens are like me. Well, MainShep and I like the same characters - that's why she's MainShep. I wouldn't have a MainShep who talks bad about my favorites. xD (The "Saren's Shepard" title really works for her, doesn't it? I still wonder what Saren would think about it though. "Your Shepard belongs to me?")

Sometimes it's hard to play the Shepards who say/do things I really disagree with, like making MaleShep insult Saren and talk about killing him. Or EvilShep, who will bring Morinth on his team.

My newShep just killed Helena Blake and that was not easy for me- those little screen summaries BW puts in are odd, this one says she 'dies smiling at me wryly (paraphrase)'. Helena Blake wasn't *as bad* as her cohorts but this Shep isn't much on shades of gray when it comes to who's on the right or wrong side of the law.  She also had the Alliance keep Nerali Bhatia's body b/c that is a resource that could save future lives, as she tells Bhatia.

Modifié par Aricle, 14 juillet 2010 - 05:10 .

[Goat_Shepard]

Hey Andaius welcome back.

ciaweth wrote...

See, and that's why it bugs me when people paint Miranda as a Cerberus lapdog. She's just not.

So I can hate her as a person. Sweet!

Kim Shepard wrote...

Aricle wrote...

It's making me think about what I do more than usual (which is enough as is) to go the RP route. I enjoy your take with Saren's Shepard. When you describe your Shepards' thought processes, it makes more sense to me. Like Goat, I tend to be me behind the RP, my feet show beneath the outfit.

I actually find myself not liking this new Shepard of late, which makes it easier to play a role rather than extension-me. The part of me that likes Kaidan wants her to be a good fit with him in the end, in ME3; she may not be, which will make that much more interesting. Nevertheless, she is going to be faithful to Kaidan in ME2.

Yeah, I just enjoy playing characters more. None of my Shepards or Wardens are like me. Well, MainShep and I like the same characters - that's why she's MainShep. I wouldn't have a MainShep who talks bad about my favorites. xD (The "Saren's Shepard" title really works for her, doesn't it? I still wonder what Saren would think about it though. "Your Shepard belongs to me?")

Sometimes it's hard to play the Shepards who say/do things I really disagree with, like making MaleShep insult Saren and talk about killing him. Or EvilShep, who will bring Morinth on his team.

Yep, I had once intended to have such diverse Shepards, each playthrough unique to their background. Turns out all of my PTs are the same But hey, I'm still not bored, so don't give me that "your gaming is dull" bs.

But not even one Shepard is exactly like you? You have powerful willpower, my friend.

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...
And to make this vaguely Garrus related.  I tried Jacob as squad leader for the first time last night and he sounds all stressed out on the radio.  Garrus is the only guy who elicits no protests as leader and then makes the job sound smooth as butter on the radio.  He's awesome.

Really? Cuz all I heard when I chose Jacob as 2nd team was "Yeah!". His confidence is why I enjoyed choosing him. Hmm...I wonder if they give different dialogue based on certain factors of your PT. Odd indeed. After I found out Garrus can lead 1st and 2nd distraction team, I do just that from now on

"Nobody gets through that door!"

and of course nobody looks better for this scene:

Modifié par Goat_Shepard, 14 juillet 2010 - 05:10 .

[Collider]

I tried all 3 team leaders, and Garrus was easily the best. Jacob comes off as fake since before the suicide mission we have no indication that he would be a good leader. Miranda has a somewhat similar problem but not quite as much as Jacob. The squad also has problems with trusting her.



Garrus: (accusatory, pointing) "I don't want you leading the second team! Half of us don't even trust you."

[Goat_Shepard]

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

Yea, I know. It's just that if I didn't have a firm template in mind before I started playing, I tended to swing back towards playing as myself again. It's better if I really define the character first. I even write down a summary of the character's personality before I start. I can't just think "This guy is gonna be more renegade than my last one." I need more than that. I feel like I have to explain WHY he is more renegade. That's the only way I can make myself believe it. I can't work with generalities.

Exactly, that's my problem too. And I don't just wanna be "pro human" or "kill everyone you can", but I can't think of a good character to roleplay as. Talk about laziness lol

Sometimes she does suck it up and
shoot them anyway though (Rana Thanoptis, Elnora, sometimes
Sidonis.)

Nowai!

[Kim Shepard]

@ Andaius: Well, MainShep is only like me in character preference, not personality/choices/appearance. xD None of my Shepards/Wardens/future Hawkes are like that. (Most of my Shepards have DA counterparts though.)

I come up with an idea for the character, develop the idea by getting their personality major choices straight before I even start the game with them, and then the minor details are figured out after I start to play.

@ Aricle: I think MaleShep left her alive... but I will have to replay again anyway. What she's doing doesn't bother him, since he did similar things back on Earth.

@ Goat: I'm sure I won't get bored with Mass Effect after my Shepards start repeating decisions either. I have 15+ planned out... but Mass Effect is my favorite game series ever. I probably won't get bored replaying MaleShep even though I just played through ME1 with him. (Liara romance trap stopped him from moving on.)

And MainShep has fun helping Garrus kill Sidonis. I mentioned that she can relate to revenge, even Saren-level hate of an entire species.

[J4N3_M3]

wow, lots to catch up on xD

Good morning everyone

I play Adept all the time, tried Vanguard once, decided that Charge is not my type of skill. Love my warp and singularity skills too damn much xD

I went totally Paragon on my current playthrough. Never did that before. It's just wow! I am so ignoring all the Renegade interrupts wherever I can and it's really interesting to see where this gets me.

[Collider]

Generally speaking, Paragon is inclined towards more diplomatic or non-lethal approaches. Renegade on the other hand is more hostile, aggressive, and inclined towards lethal force. Kind of, Paragon = Ends do not justify the means, Renegade = Ends do justify the means

[J4N3_M3]

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

Some of those renegade interrupts are almost impossible to ignore like shooting mechs that are about to attack me. How the heck is that renegade? A) It's a non-sapient machine. It's about to attack me! Other hard to ignore renegade interrupts include: giant krogan pulls a gun on me and sabotaging mech may save Archangel's life (and kills a bunch of mercs I would have shot anyway.) How are those renegade? Since when are"paragon" and "pushover" interchangeable terms? Yes, I know lots of sarcastic answers from renegade players are forthcoming. I've heard them all before. Believe me.

I didn't ignore those! Some couldn't be ignored at all, like the ones on Mordin's loyalty mission where you shoot the gas tank to blow up the Krogans. And I also did the renegade interrupt to take out the tech guy who was repairing the fighter when getting to Archangel. But most renegade interrupts I just ignore, like punching Palaven when doing the interview or pushing the guy off the Dantius tower. Or shooting Elnora or punching the locked in Salarian worker.

[Collider]

I agree that some of the things that are defined as paragon and renegade I don't really agree with. Though at it's core, paragon and renegade aren't really good versus evil. It's just two ways of doing the same thing.



I don't really stick to one alignment on principle, since my main Shepard is "myself" and I disregard what part of the wheel the choices are. I prefer to have Shepards who are not as one extreme or the other.

[Kim Shepard]

I have a few Shepards planned for each class. MainShep is a Sentinel, MaleShep is a Vanguard, and the Renegade after them is an Adept.

I like the Renegade interrupts. Actually, the Renegade Adept/Shepard #3 won't take all of them. It's totally out of character for him to headbutt a krogan (that's my favorite interrupt too), and he'd rather interrogate the merc than push him out a window.

[Christmas Ape]

I don't think I've ever not shot Elnora. The first time it was almost accidental - had no idea you could spare her life and my headphones cut out as she started explaining herself, so all I saw was her reaching for her shotgun and the little Renegade Interrupt logo - I thought I was saving our lives.

After that it just kinda became habit, but I haven't played though 2 that many times.

[J4N3_M3]

I tried ignoring the Renegade interrupt on Mordin's loyalty mission just to see what would happen but it was impossible because the Weyrloc guy kept talking and talking and talking....was interesting to hear though and made Mordin gulp a lot xD In the end, I was just tired and interrupted *rofl*

I'm really going for ignoring them most of the time just to see what happens. Can't say it always works out but mostly it does. Garrus was all "whoa, everyone else would have killed that guy" when I didn't push the Merc off the tower. Whenever I kicked him off, Garrus said, it was a bit harsh.

[J4N3_M3]

Christmas Ape wrote...

I don't think I've ever not shot Elnora. The first time it was almost accidental - had no idea you could spare her life and my headphones cut out as she started explaining herself, so all I saw was her reaching for her shotgun and the little Renegade Interrupt logo - I thought I was saving our lives.
After that it just kinda became habit, but I haven't played though 2 that many times.

if you spare her life, you actually hear her tell about the Ardat Yakshi before Samara tells you about them which gives you another dialogue option when going back to Samara. You basically tell Samara then that she is hunting an Ardat Yakshi although she is not telling you yet that it's her daughter.