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[Evilsod]

I'm still refraining from actually ordering the game till i figure out wtf is going on and whether or not they'll stop screwing UK customers. Since EA are apparently the biggest reason around for people turning to piracy i'm not holding my breath that they'll sort this crap out.



Its a joke on Steam too. According to the DA:O page you get Prisoner and Armour for £30. And then the joke price of £40 on the DDE including nothing more than the Wardens Keep DLC which is almost certainly NOT going to cost more than £10.

[Fodder007]

It's pathetic saying you're not buying the game because the UK version 'might' not have the DLC. DLC is just that, downloadable content, usually premium but occasionaly free. The game itself is so massive straight off the disc that you are most definately getting value for money even without any free DLC. Get over it; it's unfortunate but certainly not a game breaker.

[Evilsod]

Fodder007 wrote...

It's pathetic saying you're not buying the game because the UK version 'might' not have the DLC. DLC is just that, downloadable content, usually premium but occasionaly free. The game itself is so massive straight off the disc that you are most definately getting value for money even without any free DLC. Get over it; it's unfortunate but certainly not a game breaker.

So your happy to get ****ed over by EA's marketing department? Its idiots like you that let EA carry on doing it and get away with it. Yes the game is certainly worth the money, but thats not the point.

[Damsel of Distress]

JackDresden wrote...

I have to agree this looks like EA are ripping of they're UK customer. I doubt Bioware have any say in this.

I'm going to consider alternative ways of buying the game, I note the EA site does list the dragon armour as in the standard edition but not the Stone prisioner. A pity really it's only the stone prisioner I'm after but I'm not paying extra for it when non UK customers get it free.

I also am going to wait for confirmation it works ok with windows 7 as I'm upgrading tomorrow since they refuse to offcially say, although I would assume it does as Window 7 and Vista are not that far apart.

Most digital retailers are apparantly offering Shale. Gamersgate, Steam, D2D etc, but not EA.

[Fodder007]

Evilsod wrote...

Fodder007 wrote...

It's pathetic saying you're not buying the game because the UK version 'might' not have the DLC. DLC is just that, downloadable content, usually premium but occasionaly free. The game itself is so massive straight off the disc that you are most definately getting value for money even without any free DLC. Get over it; it's unfortunate but certainly not a game breaker.

So your happy to get ****ed over by EA's marketing department? Its idiots like you that let EA carry on doing it and get away with it. Yes the game is certainly worth the money, but thats not the point.

lol, yes I'm quite happy to accept a game as standalone out of the box. Then if I want additional content because I enjoyed the game that much then I'm happy to buy it. I don't feel that I'm getting done over when I'm buying the standard edition a game and get only the game.

[JackDresden]

Yes I noticed that the steam standard edition included a lot more content for £29.99 than the standard boxed retail edition here in the uk. Oh well I find steam pretty good I'll buy it there and download. Pity I genrally prefer having a boxed edition but at least I don't have to download from the EA download...shudder.

[Paynejb]

Now you mention it, I'm mentally kicking myself. Indeed, no UK supplier website seems to be mentioning this with the standard edition!



Oh, goddamnit EA.

[DPB]

JackDresden wrote...

Yes I noticed that the steam standard edition included a lot more content for £29.99 than the standard boxed retail edition here in the uk. Oh well I find steam pretty good I'll buy it there and download. Pity I genrally prefer having a boxed edition but at least I don't have to download from the EA download...shudder.

As long as EA doesn't strong-arm Valve into removing TSP from the Steam version, this is what I'll be getting too, even though I did want a paper manual.

[kansadoom]

Fodder007 wrote...

Evilsod wrote...

Fodder007 wrote...

It's pathetic saying you're not buying the game because the UK version 'might' not have the DLC. DLC is just that, downloadable content, usually premium but occasionaly free. The game itself is so massive straight off the disc that you are most definately getting value for money even without any free DLC. Get over it; it's unfortunate but certainly not a game breaker.

So your happy to get ****ed over by EA's marketing department? Its idiots like you that let EA carry on doing it and get away with it. Yes the game is certainly worth the money, but thats not the point.

lol, yes I'm quite happy to accept a game as standalone out of the box. Then if I want additional content because I enjoyed the game that much then I'm happy to buy it. I don't feel that I'm getting done over when I'm buying the standard edition a game and get only the game.

I would normally as well it just annoys me that if this is true we just get shorted out while everybody in the US gets the same DLC for free its just not fair

[JackDresden]

Fodder007 wrote...

It's pathetic saying you're not buying the game because the UK version 'might' not have the DLC. DLC is just that, downloadable content, usually premium but occasionaly free. The game itself is so massive straight off the disc that you are most definately getting value for money even without any free DLC. Get over it; it's unfortunate but certainly not a game breaker.

You don't seem to understand it's the unequal treatment people have been so angered by, not the DLC itself. As for me I've found a solution that will stop EA ripping me off. I'll by the standard UK steam edition that has the Dragon Armour and stone prisioner and at £29.99 is just much better value than retail.

[SheffSteel]

So what's the current theory? Evil or incompetence?

Perhaps whoever manufactured the boxes for UK distribution didn't include the code for The Stone Prisoner. Maybe they didn't get them in time due to some distribution SNAFU.

Or maybe the codes are in there - for all we know the code for Blood Armour is printed on the same piece of paper as the code for The Stone Prisoner - and maybe the UK people just didn't understand the unfeasibly complicated DLC scheme they dreamt up.

But it seems bit unlikely that EA would turn around and say, "you know, we can screw those Brits over; they'll buy the game even if it doesn't include the free stuff that were giving everyone else in the world, so let's go, even though the cost to us is negligible."

Modifié par SheffSteel, 21 octobre 2009 - 06:03 .

[JackDresden]

dbankier wrote...

JackDresden wrote...

Yes I noticed that the steam standard edition included a lot more content for £29.99 than the standard boxed retail edition here in the uk. Oh well I find steam pretty good I'll buy it there and download. Pity I genrally prefer having a boxed edition but at least I don't have to download from the EA download...shudder.

As long as EA doesn't strong-arm Valve into removing TSP from the Steam version, this is what I'll be getting too, even though I did want a paper manual.

If they do that then I shall simply demand a refund because of false advertising I'm pretty sure Valve won't let EA bismirch their reputation in that way though. Valve I trust EA I don't trust as far as I can through them.

[JackDresden]

SheffSteel wrote...

So what's the current theory? Evil or incompetence?

Perhaps whoever manufactured the boxes for UK distribution didn't include the code for The Stone Prisoner. Maybe they didn't get them in time due to some distribution SNAFU.

But it seems bit unlikely that EA would turn around and say, "you know, we can screw those Brits over; they'll buy the game even if it doesn't include the free stuff that were giving everyone else in the world, so let's go, even though the cost to us is negligible."

Wouldn't be a first for EA to try and get one over on it's customers, probably won't be the last either sadly.

[DPB]

SheffSteel wrote...

But it seems bit unlikely that EA would turn around and say, "you know, we can screw those Brits over; they'll buy the game even if it doesn't include the free stuff that were giving everyone else in the world, so let's go, even though the cost to us is negligible."

That didn't stop them cutting conent from the collectors edition.

[Vodiara]

Anyway , waiting 48 more hours for an answer and canceling if none granted....

[Korva]

The only "pathetic" thing about this is the unequal treatment of paying customers. The CE chaos was bad enough, I decided against buying the CE because of that nonsense. Now the normal version has the same bullcrap issue DESPITE official assurance that ALL new retail copies would include the DLC codes?

I've contacted Amazon.co.uk and asked for a clarification and explanation. If the codes are not included, I'll cancel my order. And I've already warned my friends whom I got interested in the game about this idiocy too.

Modifié par Korva, 21 octobre 2009 - 06:31 .

[Balgin Stondraeg]

Korva wrote...

EDIT: I checked Amazon.de -- their page for the normal version of Dragon Age specifically includes a mention of the Stone Prisoner and the Blood Dragon Armor, whereas the Amazon.co.uk page does not. What the hell is this?

That would be because EA tricked Game into signing an exclusive contract so only Game can give most fot eh rpeorder goodies here in the UK (and then they got given less than everywhere else is getting).

[Paynejb]

Korva wrote...

The only "pathetic" thing about this is the inequal treatment of paying customers. The CE chaos was bad enough, I decided against buying the CE because of that nonsense. Now the normal version has the same bullcrap issue DESPITE official assurance that ALL new retail copies would include the DLC codes?

I've contacted Amazon.co.uk and asked for a clarification and explanation. If the codes are not included, I'll cancel my order. And I've already warned my friends whom I got interested in the game about this idiocy too.

I have it preordered with amazon.co.uk as well, I truely hope that it does come with DLC.

[Balgin Stondraeg]

Fodder007 wrote...



It's pathetic saying you're not buying the game because the UK version 'might' not have the DLC. DLC is just that, downloadable content, usually premium but occasionaly free. The game itself is so massive straight off the disc that you are most definately getting value for money even without any free DLC. Get over it; it's unfortunate but certainly not a game breaker.



Exactly. DLC is downbloadable. You can get it afterwards. The physical things were aren't getting, which cannot be purchased separately, cannot be obtained afterwards. And yet apparently some cheap DLC we could get separately is offering us better value for money than some rare beautiful items that we cannot get any other way (which surely are therefore better value for money than throwing in some files we can download for a small fee later anyway).

[kansadoom]

Yeah I am really annoyed that we arent getting the cloth map or tin case, that would have been really nice

[Balraw]

Well I have pre-ordered teh standard edition from Amazom.co.uk and I will be very disappointed if the dragon armour and the stone prisoner are not included as it is obvious that Bioware intend it to be from their postings on the DLC. 

What makes me angry though is that Bioware are going to end up getting smeared by  an apparent **** up by the publisher EA UK.  I say apparent as it would be my guess that we will not have a definate answer to this until we all open the boxes and find a card or not.

EA have not had a good reputation for a long time and it pains me that Biowares extremely good reputaion will be tarnished by this marketing fiasco.

Modifié par Balraw, 21 octobre 2009 - 06:30 .

[Paynejb]

Balgin Stondraeg wrote...

Fodder007 wrote...

It's pathetic saying you're not buying the game because the UK version 'might' not have the DLC. DLC is just that, downloadable content, usually premium but occasionaly free. The game itself is so massive straight off the disc that you are most definately getting value for money even without any free DLC. Get over it; it's unfortunate but certainly not a game breaker.

Exactly. DLC is downbloadable. You can get it afterwards. The physical things were aren't getting, which cannot be purchased separately, cannot be obtained afterwards. And yet apparently some cheap DLC we could get separately is offering us better value for money than some rare beautiful items that we cannot get any other way (which surely are therefore better value for money than throwing in some files we can download for a small fee later anyway).

I think the main reason we're quite annoyed by this is, is how it only seems to be us in the UK who will have to pay for something that everything else would get for free.

[Paynejb]

I gave amazon.co.uk a phonecall to see if they had any info about this dilemma, unfortunately they only seemed to be mentioning the items that are included. The person on the phone didn't find any info on any DLC that comes with the standard version.

[Evilsod]

Fodder007 wrote...

Evilsod wrote...

Fodder007 wrote...

It's pathetic saying you're not buying the game because the UK version 'might' not have the DLC. DLC is just that, downloadable content, usually premium but occasionaly free. The game itself is so massive straight off the disc that you are most definately getting value for money even without any free DLC. Get over it; it's unfortunate but certainly not a game breaker.

So your happy to get ****ed over by EA's marketing department? Its idiots like you that let EA carry on doing it and get away with it. Yes the game is certainly worth the money, but thats not the point.

lol, yes I'm quite happy to accept a game as standalone out of the box. Then if I want additional content because I enjoyed the game that much then I'm happy to buy it. I don't feel that I'm getting done over when I'm buying the standard edition a game and get only the game.

You really are missing the point aren't you. Theres a difference between buying a Standalone version and getting only the game and buying the Standalone version that is suppose to contain extras, which other people get, but you don't.

IF Steam have it correct, thanks to Games strange-hold on the 3 items there is literally no reason to buy the UK DDE over the basic game because Wardens Keep will certainly not cost more than £10.

[Fodder007]

Balgin Stondraeg wrote...

Exactly. DLC is downbloadable. You can get it afterwards. The physical things were aren't getting, which cannot be purchased separately, cannot be obtained afterwards. And yet apparently some cheap DLC we could get separately is offering us better value for money than some rare beautiful items that we cannot get any other way (which surely are therefore better value for money than throwing in some files we can download for a small fee later anyway).

I totally understand why people aren't happy about it. But for people to say that they're not getting the game and cancelling pre-orders is just way out of proportion and unnecessary.