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[swirlwind]

Paynejb wrote...

Korva wrote...

The only "pathetic" thing about this is the inequal treatment of paying customers. The CE chaos was bad enough, I decided against buying the CE because of that nonsense. Now the normal version has the same bullcrap issue DESPITE official assurance that ALL new retail copies would include the DLC codes?

I've contacted Amazon.co.uk and asked for a clarification and explanation. If the codes are not included, I'll cancel my order. And I've already warned my friends whom I got interested in the game about this idiocy too.

I have it preordered with amazon.co.uk as well, I truely hope that it does come with DLC.

Me too, and I had no idea what was going on until I stumbled on this thread right now. Frankly, I'm a little PO'd right now.

[Fodder007]

[quote]Evilsod wrote...

You really are missing the point aren't you. Theres a difference between buying a Standalone version and getting only the game and buying the Standalone version that is suppose to contain extras, which other people get, but you don't.

IF Steam have it correct, thanks to Games strange-hold on the 3 items there is literally no reason to buy the UK DDE over the basic game because Wardens Keep will certainly not cost more than £10.

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[/quote]Read my above post. I do get it but it's a bit extreme to be cancelling pre-orders and not buying it just because of this.

[Vodiara]

I won't cancle the game if they at least give us some official statement on this one be it good or bad for us.

But its anyway annoying we pay the same as US but get less......

this is the first game i decided to pre order and look what happens..

[DPB]

[quote]Fodder007 wrote...

I totally understand why people aren't happy about it. But for people to say that they're not getting the game and cancelling pre-orders is just way out of proportion and unnecessary.[/quote]
[/quote]It seems perfectly reasonable to me - the advantage to buying a new copy was supposed to be the Stone Prisoner, but if that isn't included in the price then someone could buy a second hand copy later and avoid giving EA any of their money. If this was any other game I'd be doing the same, but I've waited too many years and I'm looking forward to it too much not to buy it as soon as possible.

Modifié par dbankier, 21 octobre 2009 - 06:48 .

[Nirrum]

I have ordered my copy from Steam, £29:99, has stone prisoner and blood armour plus 2 rings. Granted its a 20gb download which should take about 2 hours to download on a good day with my broadband connection.

[swirlwind]

Well, if I have to cancel my Amazon.uk order and buy from Steam instead, I'll end up paying almost twice as much. This seriously sucks.

[Evilsod]

[quote]Fodder007 wrote...

[quote]Evilsod wrote...

You really are missing the point aren't you. Theres a difference between buying a Standalone version and getting only the game and buying the Standalone version that is suppose to contain extras, which other people get, but you don't.

IF Steam have it correct, thanks to Games strange-hold on the 3 items there is literally no reason to buy the UK DDE over the basic game because Wardens Keep will certainly not cost more than £10.

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[/quote]Read my above post. I do get it but it's a bit extreme to be cancelling pre-orders and not buying it just because of this. [/quote]

Cancelling your pre-order because you aren't getting what you thought you were is extreme?

No official word means either they know and don't care or they know and can't think of an excuse yet. The possibility they don't know doesn't seem worth contemplating.

I'm hesitating to order anything till i know what the hell is going on. I want the DDE that gets the 3 bonus items, which the UK doesn't seem to be getting, if thats defiantly the case theres no reason for me to buy the DDE UK version over the Origins version thanks to dodgy pricing.

[kansadoom]

Or no official word means they might not actually know yet

[Quixal]

[quote]Evilsod wrote...
Cancelling your pre-order because you aren't getting what you thought you were is extreme?

No official word means either they know and don't care or they know and can't think of an excuse yet. The possibility they don't know doesn't seem worth contemplating.

I'm hesitating to order anything till i know what the hell is going on. I want the DDE that gets the 3 bonus items, which the UK doesn't seem to be getting, if thats defiantly the case theres no reason for me to buy the DDE UK version over the Origins version thanks to dodgy pricing.
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[/quote]Seems pretty reasonable to me to be ticked off at not getting the same content as elsewhere. Fortunately for me, I am in the US right  and shouldn't have this problem, but those who are have a right to be angry. The pricing seems pretty wacky too, though I had to pull up the current exchange rate to really see this.

I hope some form of official word is forthcoming.

[SheffSteel]

Some more theories...

• EA decided that they do not see secondhand game sales as a problem in the UK; therefore they are just not interested in offering incentives to encourage sales of the new game (a bit implausible, I know)
  
• Manufacturing SNAFU - they are short of real boxes for the UK market and are desperately trying to persuade people to download theirs instead
  
• Somebody locked up an exclusive deal with company X whereby no one else is allowed to offer the extras in the UK market (but if this is true, where is X's marketing campaign saying "Buy from us if you want the good stuff"?)
  
• Some bizarro internal publishing/distribution politics is going on that we'll never hear the details of, but the end result is hordes of pissed off customers and some unknown higher-up ends up looking bad

... or possibly a combination of the above  

Modifié par SheffSteel, 21 octobre 2009 - 07:24 .

[Dawnherald]

[quote]Fodder007 wrote...

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[/quote]Read my above post. I do get it but it's a bit extreme to be cancelling pre-orders and not buying it just because of this. [/quote]

Wow, are you an EA shill, or do you really have no clue?

[SheffSteel]

[quote]Dawnherald wrote...

Wow, are you an EA shill, or do you really have no clue?
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[/quote]To be fair, it's possible that they're just trying to take a measured approach to this. Honestly, I think the only way to stay sane on this issue is to keep saying to yourself: "The game is the important thing. Everything else is a bonus. I might not get the goodies I was hoping for, but it will still be worth buying the game."

[Desvergeh]

I would suggest the cause of all this is the deal with Game for the exclusive CE in the UK.



So EA sign a deal with Game giving them exclusivity on the CE.



Then for some reason the CE from Game can no longer contain the steel case and map.



So in order to keep Game happy they need to put something else in the CE to make up for this loss.



But hey its EA, so why add something extra, when you can just take something else away from the SE!



We will never know... even if we do get a response I doubt it will actually answer any questions, will just be "blah blah unforseeable circumstances blah blah still offers great value etc"

[Lominia]

I’ll be logging onto EA & Biowares forums to ask what the score is. It’s pretty clear that EA know what’s going on from their site

eastore.ea.com/store/eaemea/en_GB/ContentTheme/pbPage.dragonageuk

I’ll give Bioware so far,  the benefit of the doubt  as they would’ve left sales, distribution & the like to EA so they may be in the dark as to what EA UK are doing. (Though I think it’s a little unlikely) I’ll be on there later to let them know, though.

Anyone who’s also a bit pissed with this, I’d advise you do the same.

Modifié par Lominia, 21 octobre 2009 - 07:39 .

[swirlwind]

SheffSteel wrote...
To be fair, it's possible that they're just trying to take a measured approach to this. Honestly, I think the only way to stay sane on this issue is to keep saying to yourself: "The game is the important thing. Everything else is a bonus. I might not get the goodies I was hoping for, but it will still be worth buying the game."

I really hope we'll get final confirmation on this issue soon. I sent an enquiry to Amazon.uk, but from what I've read here and the other DA:O forum, it's quite possible they won't even know themselves. :|

[Evilsod]

Quixal said...

Seems pretty reasonable to me to be ticked off at not getting the same content as elsewhere. Fortunately for me, I am in the US right  and shouldn't have this problem, but those who are have a right to be angry. The pricing seems pretty wacky too, though I had to pull up the current exchange rate to really see this.

I hope some form of official word is forthcoming.

Its ridiculous in the extreme. EA is up in arms about the exchange rate of the £ to the $ and screwed with the CE and other stuff, but the £ to the Euro? They don't seem to mind.

I just checked with a friend, DDE for the rest of Europe (or at least Finland) is 55 euros, roughly £50 thanks to the bad exchange rate. DDE for UK is £40 and we don't get the 3 exclusive items.
But if that wasn't enough. Steam seems to be the only 1 offering a basic UK game that actually contains what its suppose to (the DLC and Armour) and that costs £30. The only difference between the DDE and Basic for the UK is the Wardens Keep DLC and that is very unlikely to cost more than £10 to actually make it worth the money.

If the DDE UK contained the 3 exclusive items i would get it.

Modifié par Evilsod, 21 octobre 2009 - 08:00 .

[Fodder007]

[quote]SheffSteel wrote...

 "The game is the important thing. Everything else is a bonus. I might not get the goodies I was hoping for, but it will still be worth buying the game."

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[/quote]Exactly

[Lathaon]

Why does everyone disregard the soundtrack?

[JackDresden]

To be fair I don't blame Bioware for this or object to selling of downloadable content, just unfair & unjust mistreatment of customers.

Doesn't matter anyway I'll just avoid the rip off retail version in favour of steam, thanks for pointing this out to the origional poster.

I hope EA realise this this only adds the the sense of dislike most gamers have for them, I will already only buy an EA title if it's on my must have list, and EA have already activley put me of buying some of their titles.

If Game really have helped create this situation I'm going to burn my Game card and her by pledge never to buy another game from them, there are plenty of alternatives after all.

Modifié par JackDresden, 21 octobre 2009 - 09:11 .

[Rodro Lliv]

Someone from Bio/EA should clarify this... they also should update the euro site (eu.dragonage.com/) to include the prices of DLC in UK/EU, so we know how much we'll have to pay for the content not included in the version we buy.

[Korva]

SheffSteel wrote...

Honestly, I think the only way to stay sane on this issue is to keep saying to yourself: "The game is the important thing. Everything else is a bonus. I might not get the goodies I was hoping for, but it will still be worth buying the game."

Oh, I have no doubt that the game will be worth it. However, I also have no doubt that this kind of unadulterating steaming pile of marketing mismanagement is bad, bad form -- especially if the game's website clearly states every customer will get these DLC codes.

And as I said, it isn't "just" the DLC codes, it'a also the CE mess. Someone really f*cked up big time with the UK (and some other country?) versions.

[cypherbeta]

not that i condone change the content for one and not for another then charging a higher price, but the game will be worth getting as its gonna be huge and also dont forget for people who create a character and post them here we get the special ring.

but for those of us in the uk who still want to buy standard edition i recommend www.gameconnection.co.uk they sell origins standard edition for £27.99 on the pc and maybe we do still get stone prisoner and blood armour and you'll be getting it cheaper than most other places. ive already bought uncharted 2 and brutal legend from them and they seem a good company with plenty of perks for customers.

but i hope they do include stone prisoner and the blood armour that would be awesome.

cant wait!!

Modifié par cypherbeta, 22 octobre 2009 - 12:10 .

[Lominia]

cypherbeta wrote...

not that i condone change the content for one and not for another then charging a higher price, but the game will be worth getting as its gonna be huge and also dont forget for people who create a character and post them here we get the special ring.

but for those of us in the uk who still want to buy standard edition i recommend www.gameconnection.co.uk they sell origins standard edition for £27.99 on the pc and maybe we do still get stone prisoner and blood armour and you'll be getting it cheaper than most other places. ive already bought uncharted 2 and brutal legend from them and they seem a good company with plenty of perks for customers.

but i hope they do include stone prisoner and the blood armour that would be awesome.

cant wait!!

to be honest with you, i can't trust that we'll even get the sodding ring considering the way it's going at the mo. it was promised from the .com site & not the .co.uk site

dragonage.bioware.com/addon/#luckystone

it would appear to me that, with EA, we can aquire an item that has the stats of  - 10 for honesty & + 15 for F*** You & get on with it!

think i'll just buy Risen!

Modifié par Lominia, 22 octobre 2009 - 02:20 .

[Dawnherald]

cypherbeta wrote...

not that i condone change the content for one and not for another then charging a higher price, but the game will be worth getting as its gonna be huge and also dont forget for people who create a character and post them here we get the special ring.

but for those of us in the uk who still want to buy standard edition i recommend www.gameconnection.co.uk they sell origins standard edition for £27.99 on the pc and maybe we do still get stone prisoner and blood armour and you'll be getting it cheaper than most other places. ive already bought uncharted 2 and brutal legend from them and they seem a good company with plenty of perks for customers.

but i hope they do include stone prisoner and the blood armour that would be awesome.

cant wait!!

Or grab it off Amazon.co.uk for £24.99. The price scheme is completely buggered. £24.99 for a standard edition in HARD FORMAT, or £40 for Digital Download Edition, which comes with Warden's Keep which you can get for £7. o.O

What the HELL, EA?

[Gill Kaiser]

Fodder007 wrote...

SheffSteel wrote...

 "The game is the important thing. Everything else is a bonus. I might not get the goodies I was hoping for, but it will still be worth buying the game."

Exactly

That would be fine, except Shale is literally meant to be a part of everybody's game experience. The only reason he's DLC is because the game was content locked when Bioware were given the extra time to complete him, and adding him to the game proper at that point would have been problematic from a code point of view. It is Bioware's intention that he be a part of the game as much as any other companion., and they've stated numerous times that he's meant to be in all copies of the game at retail.

If EA UK has pulled Shale and the Dragon Age Armour, both of which are expressedly meant to be free for all purchasers of the game (and the latter an incentive for Mass Effect fans to get DA:O as well), just so they can shore up the pitiful UK CE, then they're pretty much stealing directly from the consumer.

I couldn't care less about the extra items, like the rings or the boots or whatever, but taking an entire party member away because you cocked up is just on another level of douchebagosity.

Modifié par Gill Kaiser, 22 octobre 2009 - 03:25 .