152 réponses à ce sujet

[Dawnherald]

Gill Kaiser wrote...

That would be fine, except Shale is literally meant to be a part of everybody's game experience. The only reason he's DLC is because the game was content locked when Bioware were given the extra time to complete him, and adding him to the game proper at that point would have been problematic from a code point of view. It is Bioware's intention that he be a part of the game as much as any other companion., and they've stated numerous times that he's meant to be in all copies of the game at retail.

If EA UK has pulled Shale and the Dragon Age Armour, both of which are expressedly meant to be free for all purchasers of the game (and the latter an incentive for Mass Effect fans to get DA:O as well), just so they can shore up the pitiful UK CE, then they're pretty much stealing directly from the consumer.

I couldn't care less about the extra items, like the rings or the boots or whatever, but taking an entire party member away because you cocked up is just on another level of douchebagosity.

An entire party member who may be integral to the plot in Orzammar.

[swirlwind]

cypherbeta wrote...

not that i condone change the content for one and not for another then charging a higher price, but the game will be worth getting as its gonna be huge and also dont forget for people who create a character and post them here we get the special ring.

It's not the game we're complaining about here. We love the game, and we want it. However, we also want what everyone else is getting when they buy the exact same product. So frankly, it doesn't console me one bit to think that the game is great and we should be lucky to be getting even that. If the game wasn't so awesome, I would've cancelled my preorder by now and decided not to get it at all. However, the game is too awesome to resort to boycotting EA for their very bad customer service. What really bugs me is that there is no real way to even punish the party who messed up, because the only party I'll end up punishing is the retailer who isn't at fault.

[Fodder007]

[quote]Gill Kaiser wrote...

That would be fine, except Shale is literally meant to be a part of everybody's game experience. The only reason he's DLC is because the game was content locked when Bioware were given the extra time to complete him, and adding him to the game proper at that point would have been problematic from a code point of view. It is Bioware's intention that he be a part of the game as much as any other companion., and they've stated numerous times that he's meant to be in all copies of the game at retail.
[/quote]
[/quote]If that's the case then Shale will be free DLC surely. Won't matter whether you have a code or not.

Given the situation, if there's a genuine mistake or content lock or whatever that means the UK won't have the codes out of the box then it's easy enough to make them free DLC at launch. It's been done before, and by EA. An example being the free stadium download for Fifa 10, free at launch. It's had technical problems that still need sorting but the thought was there.

[Korva]

The Stone Prisoner will NOT be available for free if you don't get it with your retail-copy, it's supposed to be an incentive to buy the game from a retailer because Bioware/EA don't make money from used second-hand sales. That's why TSP will be damn expensive at $15 which is almost half the price of a full game.

I'd seriously recommend anyone who has to buy the game in the UK to wait until you can get a used copy of the game -- because the UK version is essentially a used copy if it's lacking these codes, so why pay full price for a game that's missing content promised to every new buyer?

Modifié par Korva, 22 octobre 2009 - 08:00 .

[Dawnherald]

Fodder007 wrote...

If that's the case then Shale will be free DLC surely. Won't matter whether you have a code or not.

Given the situation, if there's a genuine mistake or content lock or whatever that means the UK won't have the codes out of the box then it's easy enough to make them free DLC at launch. It's been done before, and by EA. An example being the free stadium download for Fifa 10, free at launch. It's had technical problems that still need sorting but the thought was there.

I'd appreciate it if you had a clue what you're talking about. The Stone Prisoner DLC is meant to prevent used sales of the game, so people buy it straight from the retail store.

[Fodder007]

Dawnherald wrote...

Fodder007 wrote...

If that's the case then Shale will be free DLC surely. Won't matter whether you have a code or not.

Given the situation, if there's a genuine mistake or content lock or whatever that means the UK won't have the codes out of the box then it's easy enough to make them free DLC at launch. It's been done before, and by EA. An example being the free stadium download for Fifa 10, free at launch. It's had technical problems that still need sorting but the thought was there.

I'd appreciate it if you had a clue what you're talking about. The Stone Prisoner DLC is meant to prevent used sales of the game, so people buy it straight from the retail store.

I'd appreciate it if people didn't take such a negative view on the world and just enjoyed what they are getting and what they are paying for. How can you not see past this issue, this game will without doubt be value for money, free DLC or not. All those people that don't even come on the internet to look up things about the game (which far outnumber those that do) won't even know about this issue and won't care either way. Maybe I'm just an old school gamer and out of touch but clearly gone are the days when we used to buy games off the back of a single magazine review and we were happy with what we got, bugs, glitches and all.

[Evilsod]

Fodder007 wrote...

Dawnherald wrote...

Fodder007 wrote...

If that's the case then Shale will be free DLC surely. Won't matter whether you have a code or not.

Given the situation, if there's a genuine mistake or content lock or whatever that means the UK won't have the codes out of the box then it's easy enough to make them free DLC at launch. It's been done before, and by EA. An example being the free stadium download for Fifa 10, free at launch. It's had technical problems that still need sorting but the thought was there.

I'd appreciate it if you had a clue what you're talking about. The Stone Prisoner DLC is meant to prevent used sales of the game, so people buy it straight from the retail store.

I'd appreciate it if people didn't take such a negative view on the world and just enjoyed what they are getting and what they are paying for. How can you not see past this issue, this game will without doubt be value for money, free DLC or not. All those people that don't even come on the internet to look up things about the game (which far outnumber those that do) won't even know about this issue and won't care either way. Maybe I'm just an old school gamer and out of touch but clearly gone are the days when we used to buy games off the back of a single magazine review and we were happy with what we got, bugs, glitches and all.

"Oh it doesn't matter, i'm only getting less for my money than everyone else in the world". If thats the way you think, can i trade your International CE version for my a UK CE version? Oh its ok, you'd still be getting the game right, its worth it, nevermind the fact you'd were screwed out of half its content.

Its morons like you that are why EA continue to do this with reprisal. The point is the pricing for this release is a joke and the UK versions of this are making it even worse. Apparently i pay £10-15 more for the DDE in the UK and all it contains is a DLC that will be worth half that because the REST of the items its suppose to contain have been removed in the UK edition but the price hasn't been changed to make it remain competitive.

Theres a difference between taking a negative view and been an imbecile who has more money than sense. The game is well worth £30, getting screwed out of PROMISED content without explanation is a different thing entirely. EA may aswell start advertising links to ThePirateBay.

[Vodiara]

Evilsod wrote...

Fodder007 wrote...

Dawnherald wrote...

Fodder007 wrote...

If that's the case then Shale will be free DLC surely. Won't matter whether you have a code or not.

Given the situation, if there's a genuine mistake or content lock or whatever that means the UK won't have the codes out of the box then it's easy enough to make them free DLC at launch. It's been done before, and by EA. An example being the free stadium download for Fifa 10, free at launch. It's had technical problems that still need sorting but the thought was there.

I'd appreciate it if you had a clue what you're talking about. The Stone Prisoner DLC is meant to prevent used sales of the game, so people buy it straight from the retail store.

I'd appreciate it if people didn't take such a negative view on the world and just enjoyed what they are getting and what they are paying for. How can you not see past this issue, this game will without doubt be value for money, free DLC or not. All those people that don't even come on the internet to look up things about the game (which far outnumber those that do) won't even know about this issue and won't care either way. Maybe I'm just an old school gamer and out of touch but clearly gone are the days when we used to buy games off the back of a single magazine review and we were happy with what we got, bugs, glitches and all.

"Oh it doesn't matter, i'm only getting less for my money than everyone else in the world". If thats the way you think, can i trade your International CE version for my a UK CE version? Oh its ok, you'd still be getting the game right, its worth it, nevermind the fact you'd were screwed out of half its content.

Its morons like you that are why EA continue to do this with reprisal. The point is the pricing for this release is a joke and the UK versions of this are making it even worse. Apparently i pay £10-15 more for the DDE in the UK and all it contains is a DLC that will be worth half that because the REST of the items its suppose to contain have been removed in the UK edition but the price hasn't been changed to make it remain competitive.

Theres a difference between taking a negative view and been an imbecile who has more money than sense. The game is well worth £30, getting screwed out of PROMISED content without explanation is a different thing entirely. EA may aswell start advertising links to ThePirateBay.

Totally agree, its not that i don't wanna pay the money for a great game . It's that i get much less than everyone else for the same money without any explanation or even a response that makes me wan't to cancle the order.

[Fodder007]

[quote]Evilsod wrote...

"Oh it doesn't matter, i'm only getting less for my money than everyone else in the world". If thats the way you think, can i trade your International CE version for my a UK CE version? Oh its ok, you'd still be getting the game right, its worth it, nevermind the fact you'd were screwed out of half its content.

Its morons like you that are why EA continue to do this with reprisal. The point is the pricing for this release is a joke and the UK versions of this are making it even worse. Apparently i pay £10-15 more for the DDE in the UK and all it contains is a DLC that will be worth half that because the REST of the items its suppose to contain have been removed in the UK edition but the price hasn't been changed to make it remain competitive.

Theres a difference between taking a negative view and been an imbecile who has more money than sense. The game is well worth £30, getting screwed out of PROMISED content without explanation is a different thing entirely. EA may aswell start advertising links to ThePirateBay.
[/quote][/quote]Just get over it ffs, it's a game! Have your opinion by all means but there's no need to get personal about it! I can't imagine what it must be like for you people that get all emotional over these things.

[Evilsod]

[quote]Fodder007 wrote...

[quote]Evilsod wrote...

"Oh it doesn't matter, i'm only getting less for my money than everyone else in the world". If thats the way you think, can i trade your International CE version for my a UK CE version? Oh its ok, you'd still be getting the game right, its worth it, nevermind the fact you'd were screwed out of half its content.

Its morons like you that are why EA continue to do this with reprisal. The point is the pricing for this release is a joke and the UK versions of this are making it even worse. Apparently i pay £10-15 more for the DDE in the UK and all it contains is a DLC that will be worth half that because the REST of the items its suppose to contain have been removed in the UK edition but the price hasn't been changed to make it remain competitive.

Theres a difference between taking a negative view and been an imbecile who has more money than sense. The game is well worth £30, getting screwed out of PROMISED content without explanation is a different thing entirely. EA may aswell start advertising links to ThePirateBay.
[/quote][/quote]Just get over it ffs, it's a game! Have your opinion by all means but there's no need to get personal about it! I can't imagine what it must be like for you people that get all emotional over these things.[/quote]

I think i'm done replying to you, either your an EA fanboi or your IQ is way below average (and you can't be the first without been the latter). I don't care if its a game, not getting items that were promised is borderline fraud and its my right to be annoyed about it. 'Its just a game' is not a valid excuse for screwing over customers without explanation.

[Fodder007]

[quote]Evilsod wrote...

I think i'm done replying to you, either your an EA fanboi or your IQ is way below average (and you can't be the first without been the latter). I don't care if its a game, not getting items that were promised is borderline fraud and its my right to be annoyed about it. 'Its just a game' is not a valid excuse for screwing over customers without explanation.

[/quote]
[/quote]Yeah, I'm done with this thread. No I'm not a fanboy and I can gaurentee my IQ is a lot higher than yours with that long string of letters after my name thanks

I also happen to have a fulfilling life outside of gaming with a wife, 2 kids and full-time career, which is maybe why I don't take these things personally and start crying over the extras.

Don't feel the need to respond to this because I won't be coming back to this thread. Now I'm quite happy to forget the whole thing and move on to other threads on the forums as if nothing ever happened. I don't bear grudges, life's too short. People have their opinions and they like to express them on the internet, that's fine, resorting to childish name-calling only reflects on you and your personality and not mine. That is all, thanks.

[Evilsod]

Is this as oppose to your 'i am holier than thou' attitude? You've been taken advantage of your whole life and its going to continue. Don't need Freud to tell me that, you roll over and let EA have its way with your wallet so i suspect you're the same in other walks of life. So yes, its obviously me who has the problem... enjoy deflecting.

[Dawnherald]

Fodder007 wrote...

Yeah, I'm done with this thread. No I'm not a fanboy and I can gaurentee my IQ is a lot higher than yours with that long string of letters after my name thanks

I also happen to have a fulfilling life outside of gaming with a wife, 2 kids and full-time career, which is maybe why I don't take these things personally and start crying over the extras.

Don't feel the need to respond to this because I won't be coming back to this thread. Now I'm quite happy to forget the whole thing and move on to other threads on the forums as if nothing ever happened. I don't bear grudges, life's too short. People have their opinions and they like to express them on the internet, that's fine, resorting to childish name-calling only reflects on you and your personality and not mine. That is all, thanks.

People, this is the kind of person who leads to consumers getting screwed over by big companies. "YOU SHOULD BE GLAD YOU'RE BEING GIVEN WHAT YOU'RE GIVEN, YOU DON'T DESERVE IT, YOU ONLY PAID FOR IT!"

Now, back on topic, the replies we've got on this seem to be mild / neutral, with no indication of whether we're getting what we have been promised in the box. I've submitted complaints to the UK and EU advertising agencies and the UK Office of Fair Trading ( concerning Game's market dominance and their attempts to crush competition in the gaming market ). I would ask everyone here to do the same.

EDIT: Whilst I'm not one to scoff. I laughed at this guy's signature, as well.

Modifié par Dawnherald, 22 octobre 2009 - 10:48 .

[Korva]

Could people stop polluting this thread -- which is about a very valid concern, false advertising and treating customers as second-class based on where they happen to live -- with insults and flames, please? No matter whether you care about this or not.



(For the record, I don't think Bioware is to blame. Doesn't make me any less annoyed.)

[Desvergeh]

Do we have any UK prices on the cost of the DLC? I've looked but can only find US prices.



Just concerned that the US TSP cost of $15 will translate to £15 knowing EA.

[Twitchmonkey]

Whoever made this call should be fired. Just a terrible PR move. And it seems legitimate, I can't find any UK retailers offering TSP or the Blood Dragon armor with the standard edition.

[Dawnherald]

Twitchmonkey wrote...

Whoever made this call should be fired. Just a terrible PR move. And it seems legitimate, I can't find any UK retailers offering TSP or the Blood Dragon armor with the standard edition.

I suspect that would mean all EA employees would get fired.

[Evilsod]

Dawnherald wrote...

Twitchmonkey wrote...

Whoever made this call should be fired. Just a terrible PR move. And it seems legitimate, I can't find any UK retailers offering TSP or the Blood Dragon armor with the standard edition.

I suspect that would mean all EA employees would get fired.

Nah i'm sure the cleaning staff are in the clear.

[Dawnherald]

Evilsod wrote...

Nah i'm sure the cleaning staff are in the clear.

Pfft, you don't know how deep the corruption and incompetence in EA is.

[lawsie100]

wait, what? I dont understand here. I bought the digital download deluxe edition from steam and i dont get the stone prisoner and new abilites and grey warden tower with it? If i do then ignore my ignorance. It rubs off on people

[kansadoom]

you do get them were talking about the regular edition not the DDE or the CE

[Dawnherald]

kansadoom wrote...

you do get them were talking about the regular edition not the DDE or the CE

What he said.

[Adrigaar]

i find it quite funny that at the same time as this comes to light, bioware are hosting a big event IN england for teams of gamers from around the world to play the game for 24 hours (http://daforums.biow...&forum=135&sp=0 if you hadn't heard) i mean first they shaft the UK customers mightily, then they're hosting their big event here?? (granted i know bioware had very little to nothing to do with the marketing at issue in this thread but you would have though EA would advise them to hold the event somewhere else??)

[Dawnherald]

Adrigaar wrote...

i find it quite funny that at the same time as this comes to light, bioware are hosting a big event IN england for teams of gamers from around the world to play the game for 24 hours (http://daforums.biow...&forum=135&sp=0 if you hadn't heard) i mean first they shaft the UK customers mightily, then they're hosting their big event here?? (granted i know bioware had very little to nothing to do with the marketing at issue in this thread but you would have though EA would advise them to hold the event somewhere else??)

Irony seems to be EA's forefront.