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Why Normandy SR2 was even allowed to dock to the Citadel?


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 I don't think it's a spoiler, so I post it here.

Why Normandy was allowed to dock with no questions?  Why there are no questions about Normandy's design? And how did Cerberus made that ship and everything? Especially if the Citadel is controlled by humans? :blink:

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1. Most likely Cerberus could afford to buy their own private docking spot on the Citadel OR because of the volume of vehicles coming and going from the Citadel it was simply overlooked.



2. See answer to #1



3. This is mentioned in game, talk to EDI more often.



4. How does having a human council really effect any of those questions?

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hello moto

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Citadel security sucks.


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I talked to EDI and I know that she has a "block".

But the Alliance should care how Cerberus copied the design of the most advanced spaceship they have, made it twice as big and better. Udina or Anderson should ask these questions. Hackett too.

Overlooked? The Citadel sells Normandy SR1 models, so even a kid should know how the Normandy looks. In ME1 you get tagged very quickly.

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Double post. Sorry :innocent:

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With Humans controlling the Citadel it's kinda natural that a ship of a Pro-Human movement can dock there. Particularly, Cpt. Bailey may be a Cerberus supporter (agent?) and a great fan of Shepard.

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For paragon shep atleast i think he was invited by concil member anderson and i doubt your avarage C-sec drone would want to get cought up in trying stop the concils requested guests not to mention many people may not have known that shepherd was no longer a spectre and simply assumed he was, And you dont ask questions around spectres.... For obvious reasons.  

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I don't care what the Council or C-Sec thinks. Anderson, Udina, Hackett knows better, and they don't trust Cerberus. Especially Anderson. So they should investigate. If Cerberus can copy Normandy, that means they could also develop technology to track it down. Or sell the plans to anyone. Alliance stealth missions can be compromised and they should rethink their future strategy of reconnaissance ships.

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iRipper wrote...

I don't care what the Council or C-Sec thinks. Anderson, Udina, Hackett knows better, and they don't trust Cerberus. Especially Anderson. So they should investigate. If Cerberus can copy Normandy, that means they could also develop technology to track it down. Or sell the plans to anyone. Alliance stealth missions can be compromised and they should rethink their future strategy of reconnaissance ships.

Edi explained... the moment Joker released her blocks on the Normandy... they literally tracked the receipts of the SR1's purchased parts.

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FuturePasTimeCE wrote...

iRipper wrote...

I don't care what the Council or C-Sec thinks. Anderson, Udina, Hackett knows better, and they don't trust Cerberus. Especially Anderson. So they should investigate. If Cerberus can copy Normandy, that means they could also develop technology to track it down. Or sell the plans to anyone. Alliance stealth missions can be compromised and they should rethink their future strategy of reconnaissance ships.

Edi explained... the moment Joker released her blocks on the Normandy... they literally tracked the receipts of the SR1's purchased parts.


Even more reason to investigate. ;) I want to avoid spoilers. 

EDI talks to YOU, not to the Alliance.

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iRipper wrote...

FuturePasTimeCE wrote...

iRipper wrote...

I don't care what the Council or C-Sec thinks. Anderson, Udina, Hackett knows better, and they don't trust Cerberus. Especially Anderson. So they should investigate. If Cerberus can copy Normandy, that means they could also develop technology to track it down. Or sell the plans to anyone. Alliance stealth missions can be compromised and they should rethink their future strategy of reconnaissance ships.

Edi explained... the moment Joker released her blocks on the Normandy... they literally tracked the receipts of the SR1's purchased parts.


Even more reason to investigate. ;)

that's like if I goto wal mart and buy the new X-Box 360 Slim, and a Wii... or a PS3...  someone could noticed... or if I overheard someone buying a nice game title "how much will these game titles combined cost?", person, "Hmm I might want that game too", different person

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Are you comparing consoles to the MOST ADVANCED STEALTH SPACEHIP Alliance has?



And it's not like they buy parts at Wal Mart Or construct the Tantalus drive in some garage. If Cerberus can track down the scientists who created it, mean Shadow Broker also can and who knows who else can.

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iRipper wrote...

I don't care what the Council or C-Sec thinks. Anderson, Udina, Hackett knows better, and they don't trust Cerberus. Especially Anderson. So they should investigate. If Cerberus can copy Normandy, that means they could also develop technology to track it down. Or sell the plans to anyone. Alliance stealth missions can be compromised and they should rethink their future strategy of reconnaissance ships.


They dont need to trust cerebus, They need to trust sheperd. 

Why would cerberus sell the normandy plans? And to whom? doing so would undermine there mission (human superiority) if they attempted to sell it to aliens. 

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Illusive Man or Miranda would not sell. True. Guys like Wilson would. Or leak info.

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Because it's an Alliance ship.

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Maybe it's more like Anderson gave Shepard a code for clearance to dock onto the citadel without having to go through traditional channels a civilian ship would normally would have to go through.



The Normandy SR2 probably did raise some flags and they were wary but when they found out it was Shepard, the hero of the citadel and a spectre (though his status was never truly rescinded) on that ship and with that clearance to dock, they let it go through. I really doubt C-Sec gets any real information on Spectres at all so they just let them through if they want to go onto the Citadel.



Anderson and the others had information that Shepard was working with Cerberus and the SR2 was just more proof of that but wanted to hear from Shepard himself on what he was doing with Cerberus.

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Spectres are above the law, they can ride a bicycles in space with Quarian heads as headlights and get away with it.

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iRipper wrote...

Are you comparing consoles to the MOST ADVANCED STEALTH SPACEHIP Alliance has?

And it's not like they buy parts at Wal Mart Or construct the Tantalus drive in some garage. If Cerberus can track down the scientists who created it, mean Shadow Broker also can and who knows who else can.

 maybe it's a flawed aspect of the story most people complain about... plot-holes.

i'm pretty sure a advance prototype ship would be exclusively constructed by a team of high-tech researchers and developers and not by 3rd party corporations, unless they were contracted to develop exclusive technologies for the Alliance thus keeping extreme confidentiality (meaning no paper trail or receipt leads... )

maybe I should compare the whole most advance alliance starship thing to how starfleet from startrek construct their exclusive-distinctively designed flagships on their own or something, maybe it's just entertainment (plot-hole)...

Modifié par FuturePasTimeCE, 28 juin 2010 - 03:26 .


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Melrache wrote...

Spectres are above the law, they can ride a bicycles in space with Quarian heads as headlights and get away with it.

great to be a spectre I guess... they can allow for asari's, na'vi's (blue aliens from avatar), strippers, female humans, and qaurians live and stay inside their captain's quarters of a starship as if it's a playboy mansion vegas suite filled with hookers or something...without someone else questioning it or giving orders against it B)
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PLOT HOLE

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Cerberus can simply use a dummy company as a cover like most of the international criminal organizations or some secret government agencies in real life.

I'm sure when Osama bin Laden was trying to fund an attack, he would never use the name "Al-Qaeda" to transfer the money.

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Look, I understand, that Spectres can fly anything, go anywhere, do almost anything. But they DON'T have any POLITICAL POWER.



Anderson may have given Shepard the clearance to dock to the Citadel, but he couldn't know what are you flying.

Anderson may let you get away with it, but he should have alerted the Alliance to code red. A copy of the most advanced ship and the most advanced engine constructed with TURIAN help is not the same as some Chinese iPhone copy.




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Just because they're Csec doesn't mean they are pro-alliance or Cerberus haters, either.