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[CroGamer002]

NOTE

This thread is made 11 months ago.
By that time I made many more Shepard's and did every choice in both ME1 and ME2.

With exception of betraying Mouse to Elias since you have to be very Paragon for that option.


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Number #5

Let Patriarch get killed


Seriously I just can't use Renegade persude at him so that he attacks assassins and get himself killed.
He is most awesome Krogan!
Well beside Grunt and Wrex.
Fortunately I always have enogh Paragon points to be his krantt.

Number #4

Persude Asari to dump Charr


He and Thax are only Krogans... no only NPCs that shocked me in Mass Effect 2!
Seriously a poet Krogan?! How can you not like him?! How can you make his girlfriend dump him?!

Number #3

Blow up Geth Heretics on Legion loyalty mission.


I know what are you thinking: "Dude, they serve Reapers and they aren't indoctrinated nor they are forced, they are obviously bad guys. Also what about Eden Prime, Feros and Citadel? Sure they will be usefull against Reapers but why is hard to blow them up?"
My answer, I don't know.
I just can't.
Even before Legion I found Geth awesome.

Number #2

Kill Rachni Queen.


Actually I did killed her once. I felt like a total douchbag.
Why I can't kill her anymore.
First genocide, unless mosquitoes are subject I'm not really fan of genocide in real life and fiction.
Second, why kill her? It was like 2000 years from Rachni Wars, not even Asari live that long so forgive and forget. Besides Sovereign indoctrinated previous Rachni Queen so it's not them to blame.

Number #1

Let Cerberus keep David.


Seriously!? Seriously do I have to explain this one?!
I...  just... really you have no soul if let them keep him.
It's just pointless torture. Nothing good will come out of that.



Hornable mention.

Let Geth destroy Destiny Ascension.


Seeing that commander and later finding out later that there were 5000 people made me feel bad.
But I killed those 3 douchbags so I don't feel sorry much.

Modifié par Mesina2, 11 mai 2011 - 03:56 .

[Pacifien]

Man... four of those are renegade options I always take and my character is pretty damn paragon.

[Bhatair]

Pacifien wrote...

Man... four of those are renegade options I always take and my character is pretty damn paragon.

I bet...

You kill the queen, the geth, the council, and patriarch by proxy.

Poet Krogan > all

[ollec92]

Haha!! You’re awesome!

[Pacifien]

Bhatair wrote...

Pacifien wrote...
Man... four of those are renegade options I always take and my character is pretty damn paragon.

I bet...

You kill the queen, the geth, the council, and patriarch by proxy.

Poet Krogan > all

I guess my Shepard is just a sap for love. And what they were doing to David was cruel. Oh wait, I saved the Rachni Queen.

But I've always disagreed with destroying the heretics being a renegade option. I always go renegade with krogans, and the Patriarch deserved (in a positive way) to die like a krogan. Concentrating on Sovereign was simply a better move to me.

Nevermind, three out of six.

Modifié par Pacifien, 28 juin 2010 - 07:31 .

[Bhatair]

Yeh, I left David in one playthrough recently.

I felt all wrong afterward. I think it was TIM's approving email.

[NICKjnp]

Pacifien wrote...

Bhatair wrote...

Pacifien wrote...
Man... four of those are renegade options I always take and my character is pretty damn paragon.

I bet...

You kill the queen, the geth, the council, and patriarch by proxy.

Poet Krogan > all

I guess my Shepard is just a sap for love. And what they were doing to David was cruel. Oh wait, I saved the Rachni Queen.

But I've always disagreed with destroying the heretics being a renegade option. I always go renegade with krogans, and the Patriarch deserved (in a positive way) to die like a krogan. Concentrating on Sovereign was simply a better move to me.

Nevermind, three out of six.

Shame on you for letting the council die!

[CroGamer002]

Also I forget about Veetor.

[Costin_Razvan]

Seriously!? Seriously do I have to explain this one?!
I... just... really you have no soul if let them keep him.
It's just pointless torture. Nothing good will come out of that.

Your assuming they would somehow just let him on that machine and not take him down and treat him. I find it incredibly stupid that.

My belief is that they would take him down, give him treatment and then start questioning him for what he knows, though they would probably not be brutal about that. I think it would be a long time until they restarted the VI, if they ever did consider how badly it went.

But yeah, I agree with the rest of your points. I consider Shepard someone willing to do whatever it takes to get the job done and stop the reapers, but really those cases have NOTHING to do with getting the job but just being a dick, save for the Council. I would also add the choice for destroying the Genophage Cure.

As for saving them...well that's more personal choice then anything else. As I believe in the system ( despite my personal hatred for the Councilors )

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 28 juin 2010 - 08:00 .

[Forst1999]

Most of yours i actually do with my Renegades. Blasting the Geth is also done with my Paragons, i'm not fond of brainwashing. The Patriarch deserves a good dead, the other Krogan's poetry is silly: Easy decisions. Rachni: You bet i kill them. David... i don't know yet, but i propably couldn't do it. My own list:

5)Tell Ashley she failed because she led her comrades die. Just pretty mean.

4)Let Cerberus take Veetor. It is so absolutly not necessary. And i want to annoy Miranda.

3)Let the workers burn just to make Zaeed's day.

2)Choosing Morinth over Samara. I mean Samara trusts Shepard and has sworn to help on the mission. Stabbing her in the back to recruit a homicidal maniac is something even Saren would call evil! Or at least slightly unethical. Ok, to be honest, he would call it Tuesday.

1)Choose Udina for the council. But that's not renegade, that idiotic!

[cptncanuck]

Shooting Shiala - that is my number one no-no.

[CroGamer002]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

Seriously!? Seriously do I have to explain this one?!
I... just... really you have no soul if let them keep him.
It's just pointless torture. Nothing good will come out of that.

Your assuming they would somehow just let him on that machine and not take him down and treat him. I find it incredibly stupid that.

My belief is that they would take him down, give him treatment and then start questioning him for what he knows, though they would probably not be brutal about that. I think it would be a long time until they restarted the VI, if they ever did consider how badly it went.

But yeah, I agree with the rest of your points. I consider Shepard someone willing to do whatever it takes to get the job done and stop the reapers, but really those cases have NOTHING to do with getting the job but just being a dick, save for the Council. I would also add the choice for destroying the Genophage Cure.

As for saving them...well that's more personal choice then anything else. As I believe in the system ( despite my personal hatred for the Councilors )

Better that then torture him more.
And I did do just top 5, not top 10 choices.
So I forget to add giving Veetor to Cerberus, destroying Genophage cure,letting hostages die in ME1 Bring Down the Sky DLC and kill Feros colonists, kill that Asari on Feros, choose Morinth over Samara...
Shate! I should have made top 10.

Modifié par Mesina2, 28 juin 2010 - 08:32 .

[KOKitten]

5 things I don't do as a Renegade:

1) Kill the Rachni queen

2) Kill Shiala

3) Let David stay with his brother

4) Kill Wrex - although that's not really considered a "Renegade" action as you can persuade him to back down in a Renegade fashion. But I still won't do it.

5) Give Legion to Cerberus



I think that's pretty much it, though. Everything else I've done both Paragon and Renegade to see the differences.

[Fiery Phoenix]

1) Kill Wrex

2) Kill Council

3) Give Legion to Cerberus

4) Exile Tali

5) Spare Collector Base

[didymos1120]

OK, there's nothing I'd never do. I'll always do stuff just to see the outcome. Stuff that I won't do on an "official" playthrough is a different story.  And instead of the big 5, which tend not to vary much from person to person, I'll list some lesser ones from each game:

ME1:

1. Execute Chorban for pulling a gun on me.  That was Jahleed's stupid fault.
2. Go full Renegade in my responses to Rear Admiral Mikhailovich.  Too much xenophobic, jingoistic @sshattery for my taste.
3. Tell Tali to suck it when she asks for the Geth data you found.
4. Help Schells' with his cheat-o-tron project.  Guy just bugs me, and Doran's dance moves are just too awesome.
5. Tell Girard to take Talitha out with the sniper.  That's just FUBAR.


ME2:

1. Rat Mouse out to Kelham.  Seriously: what the hell? Vengeance for the Shepard VI?
2. Force the batarian bartender to drink the poisoned shot. I just enjoy it more when I get the Turian to shoot him.
3. Let that kid sign up to go after Archangel. 
4. Give the fake IDs to those Asari chicks.  Arguing with the dim-bulb security lady is funnier.
5. Kill the batarians who cornered David after they honor the deal.

Modifié par didymos1120, 28 juin 2010 - 09:30 .

[Aggie Punbot]

Okay, I agree with some of your decisions but you really need to elaborate more on why you didn't do them. 'I don't know' just isn't a good enough reason.



Destroying the Heretic Geth: I mean, I always rewrite the heretic geth regardless but there are perfectly valid reasons for blowing them up.

- What if the rewrite doesn't take?

- What if it's blocked in some way?

- What if the Shepard one is playing just doesn't trust Legion to write a program that does what he says it does?



Killing Patriarch

- What if Shepard feels that Patriarch deserves a death worthy of a Krogan and not a life spent being the lackey of Aria?



Persuade Asari to Dump Charr

- She doesn't look particularly happy about the possibility of spending her life on Tuchanka. Could you be dooming her to an unhappy life?



Kill Rachni Queen

- What if the Rachni queen is lying about being indoctrinated? It is possible she's telling you what you want to hear to save her own ass/species.



You need to come up with better reasons for your choices.

[CroGamer002]

TS2Aggie wrote...

Okay, I agree with some of your decisions but you really need to elaborate more on why you didn't do them. 'I don't know' just isn't a good enough reason.

Destroying the Heretic Geth: I mean, I always rewrite the heretic geth regardless but there are perfectly valid reasons for blowing them up.
- What if the rewrite doesn't take?
- What if it's blocked in some way?
- What if the Shepard one is playing just doesn't trust Legion to write a program that does what he says it does?

If you listen to news after rewrite they will say Geth are migranting.

Killing Patriarch
- What if Shepard feels that Patriarch deserves a death worthy of a Krogan and not a life spent being the lackey of Aria?

Point taken.

Persuade Asari to Dump Charr
- She doesn't look particularly happy about the possibility of spending her life on Tuchanka. Could you be dooming her to an unhappy life?

When did she say she would move on Tuchanka?

Kill Rachni Queen
- What if the Rachni queen is lying about being indoctrinated? It is possible she's telling you what you want to hear to save her own ass/species.

You need to come up with better reasons for your choices.

Hmh, genocide is bad?
Well except if are Reapers or mosquitoes in question.

[Cheese Elemental]

I never play 'pure' Renegades. I want to be a ruthless bastard, not a racist or a jerk.
1. Never kill the Rachni queen. It's genocide, and you need allies.
2. Never kill the Council. It only causes racial tension in Council space and the new Council isn't any better.
3. Never kill Shiala. She was indoctrinated, and can redeem herself for her actions while indoctrinated by helping the colonists rebuild.
4. Never partake in any pro-human dialogue. Unity is more important.
5. Never keep the Collector base. I have many justifications for that (most importantly, TIM can't be trusted to use it responsibly.). I'd definitely keep it if there was an option to hand it over to the Council.

Edit: Wow, that word for 'WW2-era German white supremacist' is censored here. That's odd.

Modifié par Cheese Elemental, 28 juin 2010 - 10:18 .

[CroGamer002]

Cheese Elemental wrote...


5. Never keep the Collector base. I have many justifications for that (most importantly, TIM can't be trusted to use it responsibly.). I'd definitely keep it if there was an option to hand it over to the Council.

I rather let Collectors keep base then give it to Council, being ME1 or new one.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

I'm suprised no one mentioned killing Samara yet.

[didymos1120]

Mesina2 wrote...

When did she say she would move on Tuchanka?

She doesn't.  She actually goes there, and you can listen to her conversation with Charr next to the shuttle.

[didymos1120]

Lizardviking wrote...

I'm suprised no one mentioned killing Samara yet.

Does anyone actually do that for any reason other than unlocking Dominate or getting to watch a too-stupid-to-live Shep get brain-fried?  The whole thing is so random and absurd that it's hard to consider it "real" either during or after the fact. 

[CroGamer002]

didymos1120 wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

When did she say she would move on Tuchanka?

She doesn't.  She actually goes there, and you can listen to her conversation with Charr next to the shuttle.

Wait, she reapears on Tuchanka?!

[CroGamer002]

Lizardviking wrote...

I'm suprised no one mentioned killing Samara yet.

Read posts again.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Mesina2 wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

When did she say she would move on Tuchanka?

She doesn't.  She actually goes there, and you can listen to her conversation with Charr next to the shuttle.

Wait, she reapears on Tuchanka?!

She does. And she doesn't seem to enjoy it.