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[Jedi Master of Orion]

I'm usually an extremely paragon player but when I made my renegade I was pretty much willing to do most anything. Although I did try to give her a certain level of pleasantness in some situations, so she got a small amount of paragon points in both games. I also avoided being human-supremacist with her.



The things I tended not to do were leaving the interrupts that just seems like a pointlessly evil thing to just leave.



In ME 1, Ferros was destroyed but it still felt sort of silly to shoot the colonists when there was a perfectly simple way not to. In fact it's sort of easier to use the gas. I went in with the goal of saving some of the infected but not enough of them to stay. I tried to keep all the married couples safe. The only thing I felt bad about was killing Macha Doyle instead of the annoying Rent a Cop.



In ME 2, I still save the kid from running into a deathtrap at Archangel's hideout and push the woman out of the way in Jacob's mission. In Thane's recruitment mission, I just couldn't see any reason not to give the dying Salarian medical aid (and for my renegade character I really did try) because there was really no actual drawback to doing so.

[Giggles_Manically]

I like a lot of the renegade lines, especially for the Krogan Sushi quest.



Shep: Why would I give some random Krogan a fish I caught?

Krogan: Umm. I'll give you a LOT of money!



The +5 Renegade points are worth it just to hear his friend go:

ITS JUST A FISH!!

[Asari]

The top renegade option for me is when you're on viremire and you find the "Salarian husks" I always choose to kill them, I would never let them just stand there... bet it really doesn't matter if you kill them or not but I would never take the paragon option there ;o

[Saremei]

I have no trouble leaving david where he is. Just because one person suffers does not negate the benefits. I'm simply too logical and not idealistic enough to care for the one over the many.

[CalJones]

Most of the renegade interrupts are far too much fun to ignore (I don't do the Mouse one, nor do I punch Khalisa al Jilani because it's more satisfying to bull rush her) even on a paragon. And really, who has the patience to listen to that Weyrlock clan speaker?



I'm just trying something new in ME1 - a renegade Shepard who will save the council (I've had a paragon who let them die, but never this way around). I'm interested to see how people in the Citadel in ME2 relate to him. Incidentally, he's the first Shepard I've had who has made Samesh Bhatia give up his wife's body for research.

[TheBlackBaron]

CalJones wrote...
I'm just trying something new in ME1 - a renegade Shepard who will save the council (I've had a paragon who let them die, but never this way around). I'm interested to see how people in the Citadel in ME2 relate to him. Incidentally, he's the first Shepard I've had who has made Samesh Bhatia give up his wife's body for research.

I had an odd situation where my Paragon ordered the Fifth Fleet to focus on Soveregin and blew up the Collector base, while my Paragade saved the Council and kept the base. Best part is I didn't even plan it like that - it just sort of happened.

Oh, and think I've only gotten the body back for Samesh once, probably on that Paragon.

[Saremei]

TheBlackBaron wrote...

CalJones wrote...
I'm just trying something new in ME1 - a renegade Shepard who will save the council (I've had a paragon who let them die, but never this way around). I'm interested to see how people in the Citadel in ME2 relate to him. Incidentally, he's the first Shepard I've had who has made Samesh Bhatia give up his wife's body for research.

I had an odd situation where my Paragon ordered the Fifth Fleet to focus on Soveregin and blew up the Collector base, while my Paragade saved the Council and kept the base. Best part is I didn't even plan it like that - it just sort of happened.

Oh, and think I've only gotten the body back for Samesh once, probably on that Paragon.

It's funny that I think about it now but I never have even once on any playthrough of any alignment NOT got Samesh's wife's body back to him. I just cannot leave her body with the alliance for testing since he wants her back so much.

[HappyHappyJoyJoy]

1. Ratting on Tali's dad.

2. Not saving the Feros colony. This includes Shiala.

3. Choosing Morinth. (OK, I did do it 'temporarily' so I could choose Dominate for advanced training but that doesn't count.)

4. Shooting Wrex.

5. Letting Kal'Reegar take a bullet for me. Renshep is still an honorable man and admires a fellow soldier. KEELAH SE'LAH!



Renegade things I regret doing:

1. Not encouraging Miranda to talk to her sister. I did it once, screen cuts to Miranda crying... and I was waiting for a Paragon interrupt (or maybe a Renegade interrupt saying "stop bawling and talk to her!")

2. Saving the Collector Base. Did this once. Second Renshep destroyed it - the same Renshep who let Dr. Archer keep David as his lab rat.

[CalJones]

Actually in my last run, I let Kal'Reeger continue fighting (chose the "sounds like a plan" option). I was efficient enough at dealing with the geth that he survived anyway. I wasn't sure that could happen (he'd died on a previous renegade run) but apparently so.

Also, having finally persuaded Samesh to give up his wife's body, he does understand. And you don't get that Alliance military is having trouble filling its quotas new story in ME2.

In some instances there's really no need to do the jerk thing since there's often a renegade option to sort it out happily. See Wrex, Tali's dad, Conrad Verner's ME2 quest and Khalisah al-Jilani's interview.

[Dean_the_Young]

Renegade choices I don't do...



Do the 'refuse this quests'/'end this relationship' dialogue options really count as Renegade, when it's no longer Paragon/Renegade rather than yes/no?

[AClockworkMelon]

Keeping the base is just about the dumbest thing you could do. We know about indoctrination. We know that the whole point of reaper technology in our galaxy is to guide us along a predetermined path and make us easier to harvest. We know that Cerberus is a lying, backstabbing terrorist organization who couldn't be trusted to use the base wisely.



Keeping the base is the only decision I'd never make in any of my playthroughs. Everything else is fair game.

[Markinator_123]

AClockworkMelon wrote...

Keeping the base is just about the dumbest thing you could do. We know about indoctrination. We know that the whole point of reaper technology in our galaxy is to guide us along a predetermined path and make us easier to harvest. We know that Cerberus is a lying, backstabbing terrorist organization who couldn't be trusted to use the base wisely.

Keeping the base is the only decision I'd never make in any of my playthroughs. Everything else is fair game.

Interesting. I think blowing it up is the dumbest thing you could do because you are blowing up knowledge on your enemy. Now, you have NOTHING!

[mineralica]

1. kill every colonist on Feros. My reneganes are just have fun with throwing grenades. Killed Shiala several times.

2. let Kaal'Reegar continue the fight. Admire his bravery.

3. have casual sex with Jack.

4. choosing Morinth. "You really suppose I'll take asari sex killer on board being aware I'm the only person knowing the truth? I'm not idiot"

5. being racist: supporting Charles Saracino, turning Kaidan into racist, agree with Cerberus on dominating role of humanity. I hate everyone equally

[Inquisitor Recon]

You can turn Kaidan into a racist?

Modifié par ReconTeam, 02 novembre 2010 - 04:48 .

[Kaiser Shepard]

ReconTeam wrote...

You can turn Kaidan into a racist?

You can turn him into a Renegade if you're romancing him as a FemShep, just like how a ManShep can turn an Ashley he's romancing into a Paragon.

Never did either because I only romance Liara in ME1, but I know it's possible.

[Dave of Canada]

ReconTeam wrote...

You can turn Kaidan into a racist?

Youtube yielded me this.

[tjzsf]

apologies for any thread necro-ing, but one thing about the Destiny Ascension: Shepard, as a fairly high ranking Alliance naval officer prior to becoming a Spectre (Commander, which is equivalent of a Lt. Colonel), should know something about the relatives strengths and power levels of the Alliance ships and the 5th Fleet. Through his travels, he should also know enough about the geth to be able to make a power comparison between geth ships and Alliance ones. Thus, he should be able to know that having the Alliance pull a surprise attack on the geth's rear would result in a fairly quick rout of the geth, while perserving the Destiny Ascension's big guns for use against Sovereign.

On my first playthrough, Sanguinus Shepard sacrificed the DA (playing a paragon who is influenced by both wuxia ideals and by my own business-school-ingrained focus on the bottom line). Then I watched the paragon response on youtube and decided that had I the player known what Shepard should have known (both as an ex-Alliance officer and as a Soldier class), I would have saved the DA.

I am currently on my second playthrough as Shayera Shepard, who I term "realistic renegade", i.e. the "practical, accomplish mission at any cost" renegade, but without the "humans-first facet" （because most if not all of those choices only give humanity more relative power compared to other council races and not more absolute power, which is what actually matters) or the "colossal dickasaurus" facet (because that's just not very...practical, in most cases. I think practical Shep would understand the value of never burning any bridges).

Completed Therum, am about to start Feros, have not yet done Noveria or Virmire. The 5 Renegade she would never do:
1. Sacrifice Destiny Ascension, for the reason mentioned above. She'd know that it'd be a simple matter to save it, and you'd get to keep it as a strategic asset (and a ship that's as powerful as the rest of the asari fleet combined is...a pretty important asset)
2. Blow up the heretic geth. As Sun Tzu said, always better capture enemy equipment than to destroy it.
3. Gas the rachni queen. Potential ally. Even if she was lying, the fact that Reapers are out to kill all organic life necessitates her fighting them in some way.
4. Force the sedative on Talitha or have Lt. Girard snipe her. Shayera is a colonist, so she'd have a soft spot for a fellow survivor. She did, however, go to town on the batarians in Bring Down the Sky...and she sacrificed the hostages to shoot Balak 3 times and leave him in a prison.
5. Divert more enemy troops to Kirrahe's team on Virmire. She'd want more notches to carve into her gun.

[Bad King]

What about killing Shiala?!

Modifié par Bad King, 10 mai 2011 - 09:14 .

[CroGamer002]

^Who's that?

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[Undertone]

I can never let this girl take the hit in Jacob's mission. It's actually not a renegade choice but a paragon interrupt. Similarly I save the kid on Omega from his stupidity. Doing what it takes to get the mission done is one thing, letting an entirely innocent die in front of me when I can easily prevent it is another.

Otherwise I have no problem or moral qualms with just about any other renegade choice I think.

[James2912]

so in other words you've never played as a renegade?

[Phedre8]

I always blow up the geth in Legion's loyalty mission solely because my Shepard believes that rewriting the Geth would be just like indoctrination; making her no better than the Reapers in her eyes.
I play my Shepard as a full paragon with about a third of the renagade bar filled, so I do take plenty of renagade choices. I could never kill the Rachni Queen, Shiala or Samara. However I have no problem electicuting the batarian during Garrus's rercruit mission.

[Labrev]

I've done everything in the book. And laughed when it happened.

[Undertone]

James2912 wrote...

so in other words you've never played as a renegade?

Define renegade for me then. Because I don't think renegade is equal to psychotic sociopath.

[CroGamer002]

James2912 wrote...

so in other words you've never played as a renegade?

I made this thread long time ago.

Now only thing I never did was to betray Mouse to Elias, since I have to be very Paragon first for that.