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#26
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Yeah that is usualy true but Shepard are in a rather desperate situation and needs almost any kind of allies. In any case he/she don't have time to fight Xen and Timmy at the moment. Shepard will just have to swallow his/her pride and work with people he/she don't like.

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Shandepared wrote...

I lie awake on my bed at night with no clothes on, just thinking about Admiral Xen...


Ew.

Modifié par Dark_Caduceus, 29 juin 2010 - 02:51 .


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Yet again the discussion seems to center around if geth are truly living beings or not.

If the quarians had enslaved an organic race, I'd wonder whether people would still support them.

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lovgreno wrote...

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Xen struck me much as the Illusive Man did: as a very clever person whose intentions are not to be trusted.

You can smell the ambition on her, just like you can with the Illusive Man, and also like with the Illusive Man it's not an entirely good smell. Of course if ambition is a trait you prize highly you are going to like Xen, and also the Illusive Man.

Opinions.

Yes exactly. They are also both (perhaps a little too much) willing to take high risks, even with the safety of their own race. They also considers themselves to stand above anyone elses judgment. The difference is perhaps that Xen is more willing to take the consequences of her actions herself than the illusive Timmy. Xen acts openly wich makes her a more reliable and probably also more resourcefull ally. Few secrets is also usualy a sign of competence and vice versa.

So I would trust Xen more than Timmy, not that you will be more free or safe working with Xen compared to the Council and especialy not Cerberus. It's probably best to include her on the list of powerfull people that it's best to keep a good relation to in case you will need them one day.


I feel like Xen is more politically conscious than TIM too. She strikes me as someone who is very aware of the way the wind is blowing. I don't think she would ever make a move against the Admiralty Board unless she was absolutely sure the time was right. Otherwise she'd much rather bide her time.

Whereas TIM will always try to make what he wants to happen happen, some way, somehow. If people get in his way he will do some pretty destructive sh*t.

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Look at this, having your hand caught in a mouse trap, heavy risk... but the cheeese.


hahaImage IPB oh man.

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kondel wrote...

Yet again the discussion seems to center around if geth are truly living beings or not.
If the quarians had enslaved an organic race, I'd wonder whether people would still support them.


Unfortunately, it's bascially guaranteed that at least some would.  There'd be a whole lot more rationalizing verbiage tossed around, and their numbers would be far fewer, but exist they would.

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Dark_Caduceus wrote...

Shandepared wrote...

I lie awake on my bed at night with no clothes on, just thinking about Admiral Xen...


Ew.


You have no right to judge.

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If Xen were human, she'd be TIM. Willing to make unpopular choices for the greater good, so to speak. And she said things in the message about acquiring the largest synthetic army in the galaxy; she definitely has war on her mind. She'd use the army to claim not only a homeworld, but dozens of colonies and a council seat.



She is either insane, or has a wicked sense of humor, as exemplified by the experimenting on her toys comment. At first I thought she was joking and Tali just missed the point, and if that's true, she's more clever than insane. But if she wasn't joking, then...I'd say she's lost her marbles.

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Spornicus wrote...

If Xen were human, she'd be TIM. Willing to make unpopular choices for the greater good, so to speak. And she said things in the message about acquiring the largest synthetic army in the galaxy; she definitely has war on her mind. She'd use the army to claim not only a homeworld, but dozens of colonies and a council seat.


That doesn't sound insane to me. In fact it is quite rational. A large army and the willingness to use it would indeed guarantee the quarians a Council seat or at least an equal amount of respect and weight on the galactic stage. The only thing the races of the Milky Way respect is power.

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My point was that what solidifies her insanity is the "experimenting on toys" comment.

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Shandepared wrote...

Spornicus wrote...
If Xen were human, she'd be TIM. Willing to make unpopular choices for the greater good, so to speak. And she said things in the message about acquiring the largest synthetic army in the galaxy; she definitely has war on her mind. She'd use the army to claim not only a homeworld, but dozens of colonies and a council seat.

That doesn't sound insane to me. In fact it is quite rational. A large army and the willingness to use it would indeed guarantee the quarians a Council seat or at least an equal amount of respect and weight on the galactic stage. The only thing the races of the Milky Way respect is power.

Still, even if a giant power grab is best for the Quarian's, that doesn't make Xen Shepard's friend. Personally, I have no intention of cooperating with her.

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Still, even if a giant power grab is best for the Quarian's, that doesn't make Xen Shepard's friend. Personally, I have no intention of cooperating with her.


She's clearly not your friend... which hurts. Image IPB

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Spornicus wrote...

If Xen were human, she'd be TIM.

Erm...wouldn't she technically be T.I.W?:huh:

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Spornicus wrote...

My point was that what solidifies her insanity is the "experimenting on toys" comment.


And TIM play's with human lives.  That makes him nuttier :D

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Spornicus wrote...

My point was that what solidifies her insanity is the "experimenting on toys" comment.


If what she said about her childhood toys was true then Xen is probably a genius. Intelligent children frequently 'destroy' their toys when they are young because they're often curious to see how they work.

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I would assume that making the renegade choice at the end of Overlord might help Xen but it was a cerberus op so I'm not completely sure.

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thetruefreemo wrote...

I would assume that making the renegade choice at the end of Overlord might help Xen but it was a cerberus op so I'm not completely sure.


I smell a delicious double-cross...

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I can't really see being allied to Xen being an option. If she is as rational as she seems, why would she give her aid to a Human when she is clearly committed only to her people?

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If she thinks that human can be a useful asset towards returning her people to glory why wouldn't she want their aid?

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I don't trust her the quarians in general for that matter, but if I could help her plan succeed I would, mainly to use the geth against the reapers.



But imagine her face (well... actually you can't see it), when I tell her that me and TIM are in control of the Geth!

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I don't trust her the quarians in general for that matter, but if I could help her plan succeed I would, mainly to use the geth against the reapers.

But imagine her face (well... actually you can't see it), when I tell her that me and TIM are in control of the Geth!


I'm honestly a little torn.

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If she found whatever she needed on the Alarei on her own like she hints at in her email, she really wouldn't have the need for anyone else

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Someone like Commander Shepard is always useful. Besides, getting Shepard to take her orders would be great for ego. It's a satisfying way to gloat.

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Xen's like TIM only about ten times more hilarious.



Also, Morrigan.

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Would it really be a good idea though to owe someone a favor when you really didn't need help? I'm not saying I wouldn't like her as an ally, I'm just saying it wouldn't make tons of sense on her part to accept an unnecessary partnership that would need something from her in return. Also, if she is truly egotistical, she will take pride in enslaving the Geth with no help from any non-Quarian