Admiral Xen?
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#77
Posté 02 juillet 2010 - 06:37
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Shand always provides great entertainment.
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Posté 02 juillet 2010 - 06:39
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I'm confused, Shandepard, do you only view the geth as machines? Why is it better for the geth to be controlled by organics? They don't need to be controlled.
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Posté 02 juillet 2010 - 06:39
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Hell, watching Shandepared and Nightwriter fight always makes coming here worth my time.
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Posté 02 juillet 2010 - 06:43
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Caesar914 wrote...
I'm confused, Shandepard, do you only view the geth as machines? Why is it better for the geth to be controlled by organics? They don't need to be controlled.
Yes I only view the geth as machines and it is better for htem to be under organic control because then they aren't rogue entities acting on their own. The geth are dangerous as evidenced by their astromonical kill count.
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Posté 02 juillet 2010 - 06:46
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Hmm... I think we're beginning to get into the very fundamentals of international political theory here... Insecurities and such...
*runs to grab textbook*
*runs to grab textbook*
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Posté 02 juillet 2010 - 06:49
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Hmm... I think we're beginning to get into the very fundamentals of international political theory here... Insecurities and such...
*runs to grab textbook*
Just say what's on your mind. I sense an analogy involving American policy.
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Posté 02 juillet 2010 - 06:56
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Oh no lol, sorry, that wasn't an insult or anything at all, it just reminded me of some of the things we learned in intro to international politics last fall. basically the most popular of the three current big theories on international politics focuses more on human nature, it's kind of pessimistic. In so many words, this neo-realist theory as it's called tells you that because people have unlimited wants and there are limited resources that this will lead to conflict inevitably. It's more complicated than that and I can't remember everything but basically distrust is at the root of everything.
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Posté 02 juillet 2010 - 07:00
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In so many words, this neo-realist theory as it's called tells you that because people have unlimited wants and there are limited resources that this will lead to conflict inevitably. It's more complicated than that and I can't remember everything but basically distrust is at the root of everything.
I figured that out on my own and I've never even been to college. I must be some kind of genius.
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Posté 02 juillet 2010 - 07:04
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Lol and that's why it was an intro class, and I was simplifying things, but you would be surprised how many different opinions there are on the subject in political science. And the people that focus on international politics are just their own special brand of crazy.
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Posté 02 juillet 2010 - 07:44
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Oh, am I in a Shand argument? Spanking good. A girl needs her entertainment.
[quote]Shandepared wrote...
You and Xen should hang out together. [/quote]
I would, like, totally invite her to a girlie sleepover and put her bra in the freezer.
[quote]Shandepared wrote...
No you do not remember that because Legion never once said that. The Heretics wanted to introduce a virus into the rest of the geth that would cause them to think the same way as the Heretics. When you reprogrammed the Heretics you did this but in reverse. The Reapers did not create the virus, the Heretics did. What the Reapers did was give the Heretics a system to store the virus in a way that would prevent it from being tampered with. That's why Legion went to the derelict Reaper; to figure out a way to crack it so he could access the virus. [/quote]
Kay.
I forget what this specific branch of our argument was about. Don't you hate it when that happens.
So I'll just go back to "Xen wants to enslave an entire sentient race" (do try not to get a hard-on).
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[quote]Nightwriter wrote...
I rewrote the heretics because they had become dangerous and were helping the Reapers. The true geth are not helping the Reapers - they oppose them. Xen wants to rewrite all the geth because she wants slaves.[/quote]
Which is irrelevent because even as "slaves" they'd still be useful against the Reapers. Xen wants to help her people and this is a great way to do it. [/quote]
They're going to battle against the Reapers anyway! On their own! Because they want to fight for the right to exist just like organics!
Silly.
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[quote]Nightwriter wrote...
Which is better. They're going back to their own race.[/quote]
How does that make any difference? You're still taking away their freedom of choice. Only in this case nobody benefits except the isolationist geth. [/quote]
I don't know, maybe because they're going back to their own people and not to be enslaved.
I know, the things I come up with, right?
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[quote]Nightwriter wrote...
First off, I didn't say rewriting the geth isn't morally ambiguous. It's just that I'm willing to do morally ambiguous things if I think it's what's best for the galaxy.[/quote]
You aren't concerned about what is best for the galaxy, you're concerned about what is fair to the geth (for reasons that elude me). [/quote]
Rofl. It's funny cuz it's true!
[quote]Shandepared wrote...
The geth being brought under organic control is what is best for the galaxy. [/quote]
Blah blah blah, "my judgment is universally right because it is my judgment" blah blah blah, muhr, muhr, Bob Dole's chair.
[quote]Shandepared wrote...
You have not made a single argument that indiciates rewriting is best for the galaxy; only that what you did is somehow not morally equivalent to what Xen wants to do [/quote]
Yes. YES. That is what I am trying to say.
[quote]Shandepared wrote...
I ask you, how does the Heretics being re-written benefit the rest of the galaxy? [/quote]
These are two separate arguments. Let's keep this discussion on track.
I wanted to strengthen a possible ally and I hoped that the geth would learn from the experience. I also hoped we might learn something about the Reapers through the process. But it doesn't matter.
All I'm trying to say is I'm not looking to enslave anyone and Xen is. And oh yeah, and that slavery is wrong.
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[quote]Nightwriter wrote...
You realize there's no way we'll be able to have this argument if you don't see the geth as a sentient race deserving of life and I do.
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True.
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Don't worry, Shand, we still like you. Why else would we still talk to you even knowing such a thing is an exercise in total futility? That's love.
[quote]Shandepared wrote...
You and Xen should hang out together. [/quote]
I would, like, totally invite her to a girlie sleepover and put her bra in the freezer.
[quote]Shandepared wrote...
No you do not remember that because Legion never once said that. The Heretics wanted to introduce a virus into the rest of the geth that would cause them to think the same way as the Heretics. When you reprogrammed the Heretics you did this but in reverse. The Reapers did not create the virus, the Heretics did. What the Reapers did was give the Heretics a system to store the virus in a way that would prevent it from being tampered with. That's why Legion went to the derelict Reaper; to figure out a way to crack it so he could access the virus. [/quote]
Kay.
I forget what this specific branch of our argument was about. Don't you hate it when that happens.
So I'll just go back to "Xen wants to enslave an entire sentient race" (do try not to get a hard-on).
[quote]Shandepared wrote...
[quote]Nightwriter wrote...
I rewrote the heretics because they had become dangerous and were helping the Reapers. The true geth are not helping the Reapers - they oppose them. Xen wants to rewrite all the geth because she wants slaves.[/quote]
Which is irrelevent because even as "slaves" they'd still be useful against the Reapers. Xen wants to help her people and this is a great way to do it. [/quote]
They're going to battle against the Reapers anyway! On their own! Because they want to fight for the right to exist just like organics!
Silly.
[quote]Shandepared wrote...
[quote]Nightwriter wrote...
Which is better. They're going back to their own race.[/quote]
How does that make any difference? You're still taking away their freedom of choice. Only in this case nobody benefits except the isolationist geth. [/quote]
I don't know, maybe because they're going back to their own people and not to be enslaved.
I know, the things I come up with, right?
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[quote]Nightwriter wrote...
First off, I didn't say rewriting the geth isn't morally ambiguous. It's just that I'm willing to do morally ambiguous things if I think it's what's best for the galaxy.[/quote]
You aren't concerned about what is best for the galaxy, you're concerned about what is fair to the geth (for reasons that elude me). [/quote]
Rofl. It's funny cuz it's true!
[quote]Shandepared wrote...
The geth being brought under organic control is what is best for the galaxy. [/quote]
Blah blah blah, "my judgment is universally right because it is my judgment" blah blah blah, muhr, muhr, Bob Dole's chair.
[quote]Shandepared wrote...
You have not made a single argument that indiciates rewriting is best for the galaxy; only that what you did is somehow not morally equivalent to what Xen wants to do [/quote]
Yes. YES. That is what I am trying to say.
[quote]Shandepared wrote...
I ask you, how does the Heretics being re-written benefit the rest of the galaxy? [/quote]
These are two separate arguments. Let's keep this discussion on track.
I wanted to strengthen a possible ally and I hoped that the geth would learn from the experience. I also hoped we might learn something about the Reapers through the process. But it doesn't matter.
All I'm trying to say is I'm not looking to enslave anyone and Xen is. And oh yeah, and that slavery is wrong.
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[quote]Nightwriter wrote...
You realize there's no way we'll be able to have this argument if you don't see the geth as a sentient race deserving of life and I do.
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True.
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Don't worry, Shand, we still like you. Why else would we still talk to you even knowing such a thing is an exercise in total futility? That's love.
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Nightwriter wrote...
I would, like, totally invite her to a girlie sleepover and put her bra in the freezer.
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I forget what this specific branch of our argument was about. Don't you hate it when that happens.
You were insisting that Sovereign interfered to make the Heretics split of from the "true" geth.
Nightwriter wrote...
They're going to battle against the Reapers anyway! On their own! Because they want to fight for the right to exist just like organics!
What they want doesn't matter to me, you know this.
Nightwriter wrote...
Blah blah blah, "my judgment is universally right because it is my judgment" blah blah blah, muhr, muhr, Bob Dole's chair.
I gave reasons for why I feel that way.
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Yes. YES. That is what I am trying to say.
It's wrong though because you're doing the exact same thing Xen is doing as far as the Heretics are concerned.
Nightwriter wrote...
These are two separate arguments. Let's keep this discussion on track.
That's pretty weak as far as dodges go. I think you can do better.
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Posté 02 juillet 2010 - 08:31
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[quote]Shandepared wrote...
[quote]Nightwriter wrote...
I would, like, totally invite her to a girlie sleepover and put her bra in the freezer.[/quote]
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You and your reactions.
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[quote]Nightwriter wrote...
I forget what this specific branch of our argument was about. Don't you hate it when that happens.[/quote]
You were insisting that Sovereign interfered to make the Heretics split of from the "true" geth. [/quote]
Oh, right.
Well, if Sovereign had never showed up, would there have been a schism?
It honestly doesn't matter, however. I don't care if the heretics did make the decision on their own. That decision was wrong and they were killing people. I did what I had to do. Xen isn't doing what she "has" to do. She's doing what she wants to do.
[quote]Shandepared wrote...
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They're going to battle against the Reapers anyway! On their own! Because they want to fight for the right to exist just like organics![/quote]
What they want doesn't matter to me, you know this. [/quote]
It's kind of stupid. Enslave them to fight against the Reapers... when they're going to fight against the Reapers anyway.
Not only that, but the geth are brilliant. Having the ally of their thinking brain would be invaluable, they could think of technologies and artificial weaknesses to exploit they might never come up with if their ability to think for themselves was taken away.
All that aside, why would you want to control them on a long term basis? Why not just let them live for themselves?
Again, when you see the entire universe in terms of power your view is always going to be tragically skeewwwed.
[quote]Shandepared wrote...
[quote]Nightwriter wrote...
Blah blah blah, "my judgment is universally right because it is my judgment" blah blah blah, muhr, muhr, Bob Dole's chair. [/quote]
I gave reasons for why I feel that way. [/quote]
Which I believe went somewhere along the lines of it would strengthen the quarians which would strengthen the galaxy.
Which is weak. The geth fleet on its own would strengthen the galaxy's defenses. The geth know how to use the power at their disposal the best. If given to the quarians, who can scarcely take care of themselves, those forces would need a lot of time to harness properly and to figure out the usage of.
[quote]Shandepared wrote...
It's wrong though because you're doing the exact same thing Xen is doing as far as the Heretics are concerned. [/quote]
The act itself is the same.
But only a fool thinks that a single act, taken out of context and circumstance, disconnected from intent and justification, always means the same thing.
[quote]Shandepared wrote...
[quote]Nightwriter wrote...
These are two separate arguments. Let's keep this discussion on track.[/quote]
That's pretty weak as far as dodges go. I think you can do better.
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What are you talking about? I answered your question and gave you reasons why I rewrote the geth. Read, Shand. Read with your special eyes.
[quote]Nightwriter wrote...
I would, like, totally invite her to a girlie sleepover and put her bra in the freezer.[/quote]
[/quote]You and your reactions.
[quote]Shandepared wrote...
[quote]Nightwriter wrote...
I forget what this specific branch of our argument was about. Don't you hate it when that happens.[/quote]
You were insisting that Sovereign interfered to make the Heretics split of from the "true" geth. [/quote]
Oh, right.
Well, if Sovereign had never showed up, would there have been a schism?
It honestly doesn't matter, however. I don't care if the heretics did make the decision on their own. That decision was wrong and they were killing people. I did what I had to do. Xen isn't doing what she "has" to do. She's doing what she wants to do.
[quote]Shandepared wrote...
[quote]Nightwriter wrote...
They're going to battle against the Reapers anyway! On their own! Because they want to fight for the right to exist just like organics![/quote]
What they want doesn't matter to me, you know this. [/quote]
It's kind of stupid. Enslave them to fight against the Reapers... when they're going to fight against the Reapers anyway.
Not only that, but the geth are brilliant. Having the ally of their thinking brain would be invaluable, they could think of technologies and artificial weaknesses to exploit they might never come up with if their ability to think for themselves was taken away.
All that aside, why would you want to control them on a long term basis? Why not just let them live for themselves?
Again, when you see the entire universe in terms of power your view is always going to be tragically skeewwwed.
[quote]Shandepared wrote...
[quote]Nightwriter wrote...
Blah blah blah, "my judgment is universally right because it is my judgment" blah blah blah, muhr, muhr, Bob Dole's chair. [/quote]
I gave reasons for why I feel that way. [/quote]
Which I believe went somewhere along the lines of it would strengthen the quarians which would strengthen the galaxy.
Which is weak. The geth fleet on its own would strengthen the galaxy's defenses. The geth know how to use the power at their disposal the best. If given to the quarians, who can scarcely take care of themselves, those forces would need a lot of time to harness properly and to figure out the usage of.
[quote]Shandepared wrote...
It's wrong though because you're doing the exact same thing Xen is doing as far as the Heretics are concerned. [/quote]
The act itself is the same.
But only a fool thinks that a single act, taken out of context and circumstance, disconnected from intent and justification, always means the same thing.
[quote]Shandepared wrote...
[quote]Nightwriter wrote...
These are two separate arguments. Let's keep this discussion on track.[/quote]
That's pretty weak as far as dodges go. I think you can do better.
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What are you talking about? I answered your question and gave you reasons why I rewrote the geth. Read, Shand. Read with your special eyes.
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Posté 02 juillet 2010 - 09:07
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Nightwriter wrote...
Well, if Sovereign had never showed up, would there have been a schism?
No, there wouldn't be. I guess climate change only exists because meddling climatologists decided to start talking about it. Isn't that right?
What Xen wants to do is perfectly rational and will benefit her people and indirectly most of the rest of the galaxy.
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It's kind of stupid. Enslave them to fight against the Reapers... when they're going to fight against the Reapers anyway.
What about what happens after the Reapers? They'll be put to productive use this way and they won't be an unpredictable danger.
What Xen wants to do wouldn't necessarily make the geth less intelligent, it would just compel them to obey the quarians as their overseers.
I shouldn't have to explain why it is I don't want to leave the geth alone. We've done that for 300 years and it has resulted in countless deaths. They should have been annihilated by the Council when their uprising started. Billions of lives could have been saved.
Who knows what new conclusions the geth will reach when they finish their new project. I don't want to wait around to find out. They're dangerous enough as it is.
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Which is weak. The geth fleet on its own would strengthen the galaxy's defenses. The geth know how to use the power at their disposal the best. If given to the quarians, who can scarcely take care of themselves, those forces would need a lot of time to harness properly and to figure out the usage of.
Why do you say that? I see no reason to believe the quarians couldn't put the geth to good use in a timely manner. Afterall they have three-hundred years worth of experience managing a fleet the size of which dwarfs any other in the galaxy. I say your argument is weak on account of the fact you offered nothing to support it.
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Posté 02 juillet 2010 - 09:11
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Handle a fleet, maybe. Handle the Geth, not so much.
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Massadonious1 wrote...
Handle a fleet, maybe. Handle the Geth, not so much.
Again: please provide reasons that explain why you feel this way.
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Posté 02 juillet 2010 - 09:36
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Shandepared wrote...
Nightwriter wrote...
Well, if Sovereign had never showed up, would there have been a schism?
No, there wouldn't be. I guess climate change only exists because meddling climatologists decided to start talking about it. Isn't that right?
Somehow I knew that was the one line of that paragraph you'd focus on to the exclusion of the rest.
Careful, Shand. You're getting predictable.
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What Xen wants to do is perfectly rational and will benefit her people and indirectly most of the rest of the galaxy.
Hogwash. The simple fact is that organic beings do not need robots to wipe their asses for them, Shand, and any desires to the contrary are just indulgences in greed and decadence.
If you mean that Xen could use the geth to battle the Reapers, you know damn well the geth will be battling the Reapers anyway, which makes your logic faulty.
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Nightwriter wrote...
It's kind of stupid. Enslave them to fight against the Reapers... when they're going to fight against the Reapers anyway.
What about what happens after the Reapers? They'll be put to productive use this way and they won't be an unpredictable danger.
Lmao.
Do you, honestly, think that the geth are ANY more dangerous, or ANY more prone to corruption, than any other organic race in existence?
The Reapers have enlisted the help of krogan, of turians, of rachni, they have corrupted countless races in the past, and what happened with the heretics is no different.
You keep acting like the geth are the only ones to have started wars and caused damage, but organic races do that themselves every day, and continue to do it.
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What Xen wants to do wouldn't necessarily make the geth less intelligent, it would just compel them to obey the quarians as their overseers.
Which is morally wrong. And completely unnecessary.
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I shouldn't have to explain why it is I don't want to leave the geth alone. We've done that for 300 years and it has resulted in countless deaths. They should have been annihilated by the Council when their uprising started. Billions of lives could have been saved.
If you're referring to the deaths of those who ventured beyond the Veil, you know perfectly well why that happened, and an isolationist attitude - something any number of organic races implement quite harshly - is not enough reason to say that they are too dangerous to leave alone.
If you're referring to the deaths caused by the heretic geth, you need to accept that not all geth are like that, just like not all turians are like Saren. You can no more condemn all geth for the heretics than you could all turians for Saren.
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Which is weak. The geth fleet on its own would strengthen the galaxy's defenses. The geth know how to use the power at their disposal the best. If given to the quarians, who can scarcely take care of themselves, those forces would need a lot of time to harness properly and to figure out the usage of.
Why do you say that? I see no reason to believe the quarians couldn't put the geth to good use in a timely manner. Afterall they have three-hundred years worth of experience managing a fleet the size of which dwarfs any other in the galaxy. I say your argument is weak on account of the fact you offered nothing to support it.
Firstly, the quarians would need to study the geth for a long time, because they have a LOT to catch up on. The geth have evolved in ways that the quarians will not be able to readily understand, and centuries of the geth adapting to a self-controlled state of being will mean the geth will know how the geth work better than the quarians do.
Secondly the quarians have proven they are not very good at controlling geth. In fact their very studies of the geth aboard the Alarei have proven they're in over their heads. The potential for it all to backfire on them is so palpable you can taste it. In the end the wisest thing to do is not to attempt such things. There is no reason why you cannot simply ally with the geth and achieve the same result in the Reaper war. Control is unnecessary.
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Posté 02 juillet 2010 - 09:40
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Let's just say the Quarians wouldn't know as much about how to manage a fleet if they never tinkered with Geth AI in the first place.
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Posté 02 juillet 2010 - 10:01
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What irks (it is a fictional video game scenario, after all, "bugs" is too strong of a word in this case) me about this whole situation was not the fact that they had "slaves", for a lack of a better term, it was that they wanted them to be able to do things with less oversight.
Watching your robot minions mine up some eezo may have not been the most exciting job in the world, but if I was a Quarian, I would of gladly volunteered if I knew it would ultimately prevent potential genocide and my homeworld being turned into a gigantic Geth rave party.
Watching your robot minions mine up some eezo may have not been the most exciting job in the world, but if I was a Quarian, I would of gladly volunteered if I knew it would ultimately prevent potential genocide and my homeworld being turned into a gigantic Geth rave party.
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Posté 02 juillet 2010 - 10:17
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Complacency is a subtle, gradual, and infectious thing. I don't pretend humans wouldn't have been the same way. We want what's easier. We'd say, what's the point of a robot slave if they don't save me time and effort?
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Yes obviously history proves that Quarians are bad at handling geth. The only ones who are good at handling geth are geth. Quarians or any other organic race as the geth overlord is like having a asari as queen of Earth or a human as king of the Citadel or making a surgeon captain of a ship while the captain puts the scalpel in the patient. A person who thinks they know better than everyone else about everything (like TIMmy for example) would think different of course.Massadonious1 wrote...
Handle a fleet, maybe. Handle the Geth, not so much.
Why do we humans define us as counsious living beings worthy of freedom and not machines? It comes down to one thing realy: We think that we are counsious and free creatures so therefore we are. The geth obviously do the same. Therefore they should be allowed to make their own choices as long as they don't threaten other races. Rewriting or destroying the separatist geth takes care of that problem.
So basicaly Xens plan feels like the least efficent one for fighting reapers.
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Nightwriter wrote...
Somehow I knew that was the one line of that paragraph you'd focus on to the exclusion of the rest.
I did respond to the rest.
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Hogwash. The simple fact is that organic beings do not need robots to wipe their asses for them, Shand, and any desires to the contrary are just indulgences in greed and decadence.
They don't need to, literally, but it is more convenient. Robotics speeds up production and when it is made cheaper than manual labor you lower the prices of goods. If you want to go on a crusade against reliance on machines then you've got a hard and unwinnable fight against you.
Nightwriter wrote...
If you mean that Xen could use the geth to battle the Reapers, you know damn well the geth will be battling the Reapers anyway, which makes your logic faulty.
She'll battle the Reapers and afterwords I won't have to worry about the geth ever again because they'll be under control. That's why this way is better than your way. You love the geth, I don't. You trust the geth, I don't.
Nightwriter wrote...
Do you, honestly, think that the geth are ANY more dangerous, or ANY more prone to corruption, than any other organic race in existence?
By their very nature they are far more dangerous. They developed new technologies that inflicted severe casualities on our people during Saren's offensive. The geth can survive in any environment and can reproduce themselves on a massive scale. Consider the size of their fleet in regards to anyone else's. Worse yet they are isolationists and I do not trust any nation that refuses diplomatic ties with me.
When you bring up the rachni and krogan to support your argument recall that you're arguing with someone who killed the rachni queen, killed Wrex, and destroyed the genophage cure.
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Which is morally wrong. And completely unnecessary.
Again: subjective.
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- is not enough reason to say that they are too dangerous to leave alone.
Good thing I don't have to rely on that alone. Instead I can also point to their conquering of the quarian worlds and the subsequent genocide that claimed billions of lives. I can point to the geth invasion of the Attican Traverse that killed thousands of humans and crippled the Citadel fleet.
Nightwriter wrote...
Firstly, the quarians would need to study the geth for a long time, because they have a LOT to catch up on.
Apparently they've been doing just that and it is begining to pay off for them.
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The geth have evolved in ways that the quarians will not be able to readily understand, and centuries of the geth adapting to a self-controlled state of being will mean the geth will know how the geth work better than the quarians do.
Another assumption unsported by anything.
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Secondly the quarians have proven they are not very good at controlling geth. In fact their very studies of the geth aboard the Alarei have proven they're in over their heads.
An accident caused by the negligence of one man.
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Posté 03 juillet 2010 - 01:37
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My views on the Geth may be different on Shandepared, but I agree with him on his reasoning.
We do not know Xen's full plans for the Geth if she ever gains control. However from her email we can ascertain it will not be for the good of Mankind, or any other species aside from the Quarians.
Xen plans to brainwash them... The very same thing you do if you choose the "Paragon" option on Legions loyalty mission. The only main difference between the two, is that Xen would probably have more direct control over her "Indoctrinated" Geth than Shepard does his/her "True" Geth.
Speaking of which... Was there any research left on the Alerai? I know Shep and Tali found evidence of Tali's father doing his work... But what about the work itself? I believe that was what Xen's email was about... and if so she does indeed have a head start on Cyber warfare against the Geth.
We do not know Xen's full plans for the Geth if she ever gains control. However from her email we can ascertain it will not be for the good of Mankind, or any other species aside from the Quarians.
Xen plans to brainwash them... The very same thing you do if you choose the "Paragon" option on Legions loyalty mission. The only main difference between the two, is that Xen would probably have more direct control over her "Indoctrinated" Geth than Shepard does his/her "True" Geth.
Speaking of which... Was there any research left on the Alerai? I know Shep and Tali found evidence of Tali's father doing his work... But what about the work itself? I believe that was what Xen's email was about... and if so she does indeed have a head start on Cyber warfare against the Geth.
