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[bottkager]

Hi!

I managed to recruite some allies (elves, dwarfs and mages), and they appeared in my camp with a crate, where I can give them supplies. What is it good for? I haven't figured it out yet. I just gave them supplies, but nothing happened, at least nothing visible. Will their forces come in greater number in the final battle? Has anyone know?

[osu_waterpolo]

i believe you get exp for doing it? so far thats the only things ive seen/heard

[Cloudgunho]

I am not sure but when i saw them fighting i looked like some were using Enchanted weapons and other High end gear. But i believe you need to turn in alot to get this but even i did not do to much.

[Maria Caliban]

I assume the final battle will have feature upgrades. I wish BioWare had made this a bit more transparent.

I put 105 deep mushrooms in one bin. What does that get me? How does that help?

No clue.

I've put dozens of various gemstones in the boxes. Do I get more men? Better equipped ones? Do different gems do different things?

No clue.

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 10 novembre 2009 - 10:44 .

[Haasth]

I'm just dropping everything I do not need at them... Guessing they'll be better at some final battle... but who knows. Would be interesting if you could lose it, or have very high casualties if they're poorly equipped.

[Discursion]

The more you give, the more troops you get for that particular army, and the better equipped they are.

I donated a crapload of stuff to the Dwarves and got 50 Dwarven Troops geared with enchanted weapons and good armour (Same with Dalish), I didn't donate much to the Mages (I needed the Runes for myself) and Redcliffe (It was my last stop on the storyline) and got 12 Mages/Redcliffe troops in basic apprentice/trainee gear.

It depends on what difficulty you're playing that dictates how vital they'll be, since you can only have a single "force" on the battlefield at any one time, I think if you focused entirely on one, poured silly amounts into them and got 50 geared-to-the-teeth of one of them it'd probably see you through until the end of the game. I don't think I ever used anything but the Dalish throughout the entire final battle other than to just see what the other guys looked like.

Modifié par Discursion, 10 novembre 2009 - 10:51 .

[Haasth]

Aha! Well then, I am going to assemble the greatest Mage army Ferelden has ever seen since the fall of the Tevinter Imperium!

[bottkager]

I got the same numbers in allies (50 dwarf and elves, 12 mages), but I put more runes to that crate than gems. Seems there is no connection between...

[Haasth]

Is there anyway to see how big / well equipped your army is?

Modifié par Haasth, 10 novembre 2009 - 10:55 .

[Discursion]

Haasth wrote...

Is there anyway to see how big / well equipped your army is?

Not until the final battle begins, you get a unique little interface window that lets you pick them and shows their numbers.

Maybe the other guy is right about it not affecting numbers, since the Mages are stronger than the Dwarves I guess, but I'm almost certain it affects the gear, since the Dwarves had heavy armour and enchanted weapons, and the Redcliffe troops were basically wearing starter leather/cloth gear.

[brownstudies]

Discursion wrote...

The more you give, the more troops you get for that particular army, and the better equipped they are.

I donated a crapload of stuff to the Dwarves and got 50 Dwarven Troops geared with enchanted weapons and good armour (Same with Dalish), I didn't donate much to the Mages (I needed the Runes for myself) and Redcliffe (It was my last stop on the storyline) and got 12 Mages/Redcliffe troops in basic apprentice/trainee gear.

My first playthrough i didn't donate a thing to anyone - my second I donated tons to all. it didn't make a jot of difference to army numbers!

[ReubenLiew]

Yeah making your troops better is a myth. The only confirmed fact is that it gives you exp.

[chaosapiant]

Hats, for bats...keeps bats warm. Sorry, couldn't resist.

[Scotsman284]

Giving you're allies resources upgrades them and makes them more effective in the final battle. Better weapons, better armor, etc. Its a good idea to give as much as you can. Fully upgraded Dwarven army is a nightmare for darkspawn.

There's no way to really see how this pays off until you either summon them in the final battle or have the random encounters where you encounter one of the armies battling darkspawn. Upgraded Dwarves usually have enchanted weaponry and Dwarven massive armor instead what I think is chainmail.

Elves get Ancient Elven Armor instead of leather and they may have better bows, im not sure.

Eamon's knights i think got heavy chainmail and heavy infantry gear instead of basic chainmail.

Not sure about mages. Never used them. :/

Modifié par Scotsman284, 08 janvier 2010 - 05:38 .

[ReubenLiew]

That's not proven at all.

[brownstudies]

I really didn't notice any difference whatsoever. Both playthroughs I just used the dwarf army all the way through - they lasted just as long and their gear was no different.

[Scotsman284]

Proven or not, the dwarves in the random encounter had red chainmail, for me. I then donated alot of gems to them and at the final battle they had dwarven massive armor, and they were NOT Legion soldiers.



Whether thats tied to the donations or not, it still happened.

[ReubenLiew]

That still doesn't make it truth, and it might be tied to your level not the donation.

So it's still a myth and as far as the facts go they only give exp.

[brownstudies]

My dwarves armor was red steel during the random encounter too, and it DID change for the final battle - but it did that in both playthroughs, so I'm not convinced that it's tied to donations.

They must have had 30 topaz, 30 amethysts and a few other random gems in my second playthrough. I was expecting them to come out in gold plated dragonbone

Modifié par brownstudies, 08 janvier 2010 - 05:46 .

[Scotsman284]

Meh. Its nice to think the 100+ elfroots and 100 effing sovreigns did SOMETHING to make em better. Seems wasteful otherwise... Still experience alone is enough a reason to give to them. Bioware could have at least made it more clear if donating benefited them at all...

[brownstudies]

I agree with that, I managed to level twice through donations. It's definitely worth doing....I just wish I could see a sizable difference in my troop's numbers/capabilities. Like you say, it's nice to think that collecting all that junk actually made a benefit to them!

[Lord_Saulot]

On my first playthrough I got to 24 doing donations and easily hit the level cap afterwards. I was hoping it would improve my army, but all I know is that it gave me experience. In any case, its quite easy to hit the level cap that way.

[NytFantom]

I think it's agreed that there is no difference in the army number. Besides, I don't see how giving elfroots and deep mushrooms to the dalish produce an elf that is full capable of fighting. Nor do I see how gems would produce a full grown dwarf or how runes can create a mage. The only one that would make sense is the knights of Redcliffe, seeing as you give them money and they're a mercenary group type thing. Although the emmissary says it's for getting better equipment... hmm... interesting.



I haven't noticed any differences myself in the armies later on. I have my dwarf (in the profile pic) saved with a bunch of different file saves at end game. I'll try putting more things in to see if there is any differences as well.

[Lotion Soronarr]

We need to take a look at the scripts in the toolset. They should provide and answer.

[Palathas]

Yeah, the only difference I've noticed is that donating the items gives you xp. It doesn't seem to do anything other than that on Normal difficulty.



It'd be nice if the emissaries turned up with shoddy gear and as you donated more and more their gear slowly upgraded so that you could tell it was actually doing something.



I went into the final battle with 50 Redcliffe / Dwarves / Dalish and 10 Mages. On normal not a single person died so maybe it does upgrade their gear and the troops level or some such... No idea otherwise.