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[inclemency]

Messy Kills worked once for me, then....nothing.  No matter what equipment is used, there are no longer any messy kills.  I really had a blast that one time, blood spraying, etc. and sometimes it would be fun to experience the game that way again.

Anyone have a suggestion on how it showed up in one game and not any others?  (PC version, and I have a few dozen characters played through)

Thanks

[MindYerBeak]

Perhaps a Mod somewhere may have scuppered things?

[hexaligned]

Are you talking about the item attribute? Or just in general? In my expierience the items that are supposed to increase them don't actually work, or at least it isn't noticeably more frequent.

[inclemency]

It's not working at all anymore, it worked in one game, and one game only.

[Bahlgan]

I know certain enemies that should have messy kill proc on them, but they don't.



The first Hurlock General in the siege on Denerim isn't a target you can kill messy style, for instance. Regrettably, neither are any of the Fade Beasts. Same can be said for drakes.



Wanted to messy kill Arl Howe...

[Lord Gremlin]

Bahlgan wrote...

Wanted to messy kill Arl Howe...

Decapitated him once, yep. Feels good. Although I've been playing as an elf. Too bad those messy kills are completely random.

[Suron]

Lord Gremlin wrote...

Bahlgan wrote...

Wanted to messy kill Arl Howe...

Decapitated him once, yep. Feels good. Although I've been playing as an elf. Too bad those messy kills are completely random.

I beheaded him once also while he had walking bomb on him...slice..BOOM

weird how he grew his head back just to taunt me before he actually died

[Bahlgan]

Lord Gremlin wrote...

Bahlgan wrote...

Wanted to messy kill Arl Howe...

Decapitated him once, yep. Feels good. Although I've been playing as an elf. Too bad those messy kills are completely random.

Must have been a bug before they "fixed" it. The same happens, so I heard, to The First in Awakening.

Yea and it IS too bad you cannot activate like a menu to choose which messy kill your guy gets, like you can select from a list right before you kill your enemy, thus deciding the messy kill delivered.

[Giantevilhead]

You need to get the Bloody Mess trait at character creation.

[Leather_Rebel90]

Giantevilhead wrote...

You need to get the Bloody Mess trait at character creation.

Fallout: Origins?

[inclemency]

I had one game where blood was spewing and geysering all over the place, it was amazing. Laughed myself silly through the deep roads...but that experience was never repeated and it's been well over a dozen characters since then.



Ah well

[electricfish]

Messy kills is one of a few item attributes not working in the game, nor has it ever to my knowledge. What you saw was likely one of several "finishing move" type animations, one of which has a blood fountain Freddy Krueger would be proud of.

What actually triggers these animations is still sort of a mystery, maybe a critical hit at the time of death, or a hidden dice roll. They can happen regardless of an item having the Messy Kills property, at any rate, but everyone seems to have different luck with seeing them. It's kind of like Old Tegrin.

[Vicious]

It never worked. Other item attributes that don't work:



Weakens Darkspawn

Lucky

Raises/Lowers Hostility.





The finishing move animations are triggered by a few things - if you kill them with a critical hit you get one. If you hit them hard and their health is low [say with a 2 hander] then you get one. It HAS to be a regular hit, it cannot be a special ability like Mighty Blow or Assault or Punisher.



The chances are also much lower if you are fighting 2 or more opponents, because the game does not want to 'tie' you into an animation while you are theoretically getting pummeled.



Big enemies like Dragons almost always trigger the kill animation. Brood Mother it's SUPPOSED to fire off every time but sometimes doesn't in my experience. And that's about it.

[Kaedah]

Lord Gremlin wrote...

Bahlgan wrote...

Wanted to messy kill Arl Howe...

Decapitated him once, yep. Feels good. Although I've been playing as an elf. Too bad those messy kills are completely random.

How?? :pinched:I play on the Ps3 and no mater how many times i have faced i have never gotton a messy on Howe, Tell me!

[jcurant]

it's kinda sucky that one of the things they didn't get implemented was probably the coolest weapon stat they came up with..... PATCH IT.... PATCH IT I TELL YOU *shaking fist*

[Last Darkness]

Please Clarify OP

Are you talking about the item Property on gear OR the mod for PC http://www.dragonage...file.php?id=193



Its not reliable and most time dosnt work for the former and if the latter I suggest reinstalling all your Mods/Updating them after you have updated from the recent 1.4 Dragon Age Patch.

[BLunted]

not sure why, but I noticed i got the most messy kills while using a two handed sword(not Ageless). Think it's just random other than the mobs that trigger them(e.g. ogres)

[Yrkoon]

inclemency wrote...
  No matter what equipment is used, there are no longer any messy kills.  I really had a blast that one time, blood spraying, etc. and sometimes it would be fun to experience the game that way again.

Anyone have a suggestion on how it showed up in one game and not any others?  (

Double check your settings.  Make sure you've got  the "persistant gore" checked.  (There was a bug prior to 1.04 where if you began an  Awakening  run, all your game settings would revert back to the default.  That would explain why you had blood and gore in one game but not subsequent ones)

Modifié par Yrkoon, 30 juillet 2010 - 03:29 .

[BLunted]

Yrkoon wrote...

inclemency wrote...
  No matter what equipment is used, there are no longer any messy kills.  I really had a blast that one time, blood spraying, etc. and sometimes it would be fun to experience the game that way again.

Anyone have a suggestion on how it showed up in one game and not any others?  (

Double check your settings.  Make sure you've got  the "persistant gore" checked.  (There was a bug prior to 1.04 where if you began an  Awakening  run, all your game settings would revert back to the default.  That would explain why you had blood and gore in one game but not subsequent ones)

Hmm, i never play with persistant gore, but i still get messy kills. Think persistant gore just affects the blood on your character during diologue/cutscenes.

EDIT - Just to confirm, by messy kills, we mean those cinamatic type kill animations, right?

Modifié par BLunted, 30 juillet 2010 - 03:55 .

[Last Darkness]

BLunted wrote...

Yrkoon wrote...

inclemency wrote...
  No matter what equipment is used, there are no longer any messy kills.  I really had a blast that one time, blood spraying, etc. and sometimes it would be fun to experience the game that way again.

Anyone have a suggestion on how it showed up in one game and not any others?  (

Double check your settings.  Make sure you've got  the "persistant gore" checked.  (There was a bug prior to 1.04 where if you began an  Awakening  run, all your game settings would revert back to the default.  That would explain why you had blood and gore in one game but not subsequent ones)

Hmm, i never play with persistant gore, but i still get messy kills. Think persistant gore just affects the blood on your character during diologue/cutscenes.

EDIT - Just to confirm, by messy kills, we mean those cinamatic type kill animations, right?

Yes, you normaly have a chance to do them on just about any melee fineshing blow attack.
Messy kills item property is supossed to increase that chance slightly but its un reliable and theres a mod for the PC that basicaly makes all melee fineshing hits messy kills.

[Yrkoon]

Kaedah wrote...

Lord Gremlin wrote...

Bahlgan wrote...

Wanted to messy kill Arl Howe...

Decapitated him once, yep. Feels good. Although I've been playing as an elf. Too bad those messy kills are completely random.

How??  

 Howe.

Modifié par Yrkoon, 30 juillet 2010 - 08:09 .

[Last Darkness]

^ I reloaded my Cousaland game several times till I got a decap on Howe. It was worth it

[inclemency]

^ Lol, I know what I'm going to be doing this game!

[Last Darkness]

*Update* Messy Kill Mods dont seem to work with 1.3 or higher patch.
http://social.bioware.com/project/984/

Modifié par Last Darkness, 08 août 2010 - 05:39 .

[Mr.Cousland_]

Zorr Crew wrote...
What actually triggers these animations is still sort of a mystery, maybe a critical hit at the time of death, or a hidden dice roll. They can happen regardless of an item having the Messy Kills property, at any rate, but everyone seems to have different luck with seeing them. It's kind of like Old Tegrin.

Usually whenever a mage would be infuriating me IRL I would get the 'stab in the gut then behead' animation. Its like my Char(s) were actually getting mad with me lol.

Usually I get them constantly, it makes it look like I'm playing Kill Bill: Origins. Really makes up for the boring "attack then get hit then attack" style.

Also I am always seeing Old Tegrin in pretty much all playthroughs, I hate him. Wish I could Pimp smack him and scream "ORZAMMAR ISNT DEADLOCKED ANYMORE!!!! GO HOME!!!!!! I WANT MY STAR METAL YOU FOO!!!!! >:O"

Tegrins really annoying.