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Zulu_DFA

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RyuGuitarFreak wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

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Ecael wrote...

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Pacifien wrote...

I dunno, more people defending also means more people you have to protect.


ME2 is a "cover-based" shooter, remember? More people = less cover for each. Seems awfully logical to me.

Wait, Mass Effect 1 didn't have cover?

It did, but it besides Shepard everyone found them useless. I always wondered why. I was like "Ashley, look at the damn cover!" she was like "Whaaaaaaaaat? I don't need this cover cra-"*dies
And the enemies were "I will destroy you! I will destroy you!" And they ran around me shooting like idiots, or stood still not shooting while I kicked their ass. I didn't get it.


Well, the squadmates' and enemy AI has been sligthly improved... At least they don't try to shoot each other through the walls any more. On the downside, Shepard can't really duck any more and fight effectively until he finds a crate or a cubic boulder to sticky himself to... And then it's quite a tricky business to change position. Instead of just unstickying himself, Shep may occasionally make his trademark cartoonish leap over the "cover" right into the stream of enemy bullets... God bless texmod for removing the red veins!

I bless Bioware for removing the "duck" command. It was stupid to find a low cover and you yet have to press a button or key to make him cover correctly. Also, shooting the enemies while being lowered was both stupid and hilarious and almost cheating as it made the game much easier. All my opinion, of course.
Well, I never had problems going from cover to cover.


Shepard took cover in ME pretty much like in "2". Only he did it automatically when herded to a suitable spot. If the spot was not suitable to "get sticky" , you could still made him duck which resulted in the same thing - lower profile (= longer life expectancy) and increased accuracy. These days it's impossible to take cover unless the level designer wants you to. Sure they filled the levels heftily with potential cover spots... Only to look them far less "natural" than in ME. Those flip-flop thingies on the Purgatory were particuraly ridiculous.

And why on Earth did they assign all possible actions to one and the same key? Sometimes it gets annoying. I wand to take cover, but my Shepard starts to bypass a nearby wall safe, gets  shot, and the wall safe jams for good. I want to exit cover but my Shepard hacks a nearby defensive turret, I change the direction where Shepard is looking, try exit cover again, and he leaps over it. It's not that often to jar the game completely, but often enough to wonder, why weren't different actions assigned to different keys instead of being all assigned to just one.

And what about being shooter-like game? There used to be shooters with no ducking, but I can't think of one released in this century. Suppose it's because I never played 3rd person shooters.

BTW, some people would laugh you in the face, if you call any game where you see the protagonist on screen "a shooter". I am not one of them, but I can clearly see their point. Strictly speaking, the 3rd person shooters are the posterity of arcade games.

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BellaStrega wrote...

I've never had anyone die with or without Kasumi.

I always leave Garrus, Grunt, and Zaeed to hold the line, though.

This.

My last playthrough, Zaeed and Jack were disloyal, but everyone still survived.  Probably because I sent Mordin back with the crew and brought Kasumi and Tali with me for the human reaper though, lol.

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"I bless Bioware for removing the "duck" command."

I'm not one for game play, but I am one for control.

So you're telling me in a gun battle, my player character can't duck or crouch, but everyone else firing on both sides can?  I played Alpha Protocol recently and went "holy crap!"  Mike may sneak like a hobbled chicken, but at least he can.  Heck, the original Syphon Filter had crouching (well I loved the control scheme for that.)  To remove such a simple element is pretty odd, considering every FPS/TPS I can think of save Doom has this.  (My knowledge of such games are limited, of course.)

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I'm glad they forced the cover system in. I'm also glad they went with an ammo system. In ME1 I could just stalk about in crouch holding the fire button down and annihilate everything never letting go of the trigger.



Idiotic. Looked and felt retarded. But I never needed to take cover. ever.

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they're killing tali to do you a favor, they want to save you from the possibility of you joining the fandom