Because lore states that mages stay awake while in the Fade, how do enchanters at Circle Towers keep apprentices from being discovered by demons and spirits while they are asleep?
I would think that different people would end up in different parts of the Fade while sleeping, so it would be difficult to keep a senior enchanter at the same schedule to sort of..corral students and keep them from doing stuff on their own.
Do they have certain rituals before going to bed to prevent active Fade walking? A ritual to repel spirits? I'm assuming pre-Harrowing apprentices can actively get to the Fade based on Arl Eamon's storyline, so what's stopping Tower apprentices from seeking spirits?
How do pre-Harrowing mages avoid Fade spirits?
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Posté 01 juillet 2010 - 12:50
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The point of the Harrowing is a "trial by fire" to see if you possess the willpower to resist the demons in the fade that want to take over a host. Not only mages are taken over by demons, that's where you get undead and other such monsters.
Mages are like beacons in the fade, I assume that the less powerful the mage, the less "brightly" they "shine", and the training on the use of their power is training that willpower, should they draw the attention of a demon.
Also, remember that the tower is filled with Templars. They're not there just to keep an eye on mages in the Harrowing or mages before the Harrowing. Should an apprentice fall victim to demonic possession, they're there to kill them.
Mages are like beacons in the fade, I assume that the less powerful the mage, the less "brightly" they "shine", and the training on the use of their power is training that willpower, should they draw the attention of a demon.
Also, remember that the tower is filled with Templars. They're not there just to keep an eye on mages in the Harrowing or mages before the Harrowing. Should an apprentice fall victim to demonic possession, they're there to kill them.
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Posté 01 juillet 2010 - 01:47
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ArawnNox wrote...
Not only mages are taken over by demons, that's where you get undead and other such monsters.
The lore behind the undead and their existence, to me, is original in this game. Usually the undead are the wrathful souls of the living. In THIS game, however, the undead are just bodies.. Possessed by demons!!
I wonder what the result is of a warrior or rogue getting possessed by a demon? A mage becomes an abomination, so what do the possessed warriors and rogues become? Do they possess powers that augment their physical properties? I was thinking warriors would become strong enough to kill ogres with their bare hands.
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Posté 01 juillet 2010 - 02:34
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1. Mages only stay awake in the fade if they cast a powerful spell. If they don't cast the spell they dream like anyone else.Zorr Crew wrote...
Because lore states that mages stay awake while in the Fade, how do enchanters at Circle Towers keep apprentices from being discovered by demons and spirits while they are asleep?
I would think that different people would end up in different parts of the Fade while sleeping, so it would be difficult to keep a senior enchanter at the same schedule to sort of..corral students and keep them from doing stuff on their own.
Do they have certain rituals before going to bed to prevent active Fade walking? A ritual to repel spirits? I'm assuming pre-Harrowing apprentices can actively get to the Fade based on Arl Eamon's storyline, so what's stopping Tower apprentices from seeking spirits?
" so what's stopping Tower apprentices from seeking spirits?" Well I'm sure most of them don't know the spell and even if they did it takes a lot of mages to cast the spell, so they would need a lot of help and that would draw attention.
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Posté 01 juillet 2010 - 02:56
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@ArawnNox - I know Templars are there for a reason, but what about those interested in the Spirit Healer side of spirits? Somehow, you'll have to convince some that you have a worthy goal (or apparently just be really charismatic). Though I don't think you addressed my main question, which is about mages sleeping in all that time before the Harrowing.
@atheelogos - What says that mages need a powerful spell to stay awake in the Fade? Or is it something that one of the books addresses and the game itself doesn't?
I guess the game also doesn't really say one way or another, but I did reference to Arl Eamon's storyline, and I don't think the person there had a lot of help in getting to the Fade making those events happen.
@atheelogos - What says that mages need a powerful spell to stay awake in the Fade? Or is it something that one of the books addresses and the game itself doesn't?
I guess the game also doesn't really say one way or another, but I did reference to Arl Eamon's storyline, and I don't think the person there had a lot of help in getting to the Fade making those events happen.
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Posté 01 juillet 2010 - 09:00
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This is getting close to spolier territory, but I'll try to answer your questions.
In regards to Spirit Healers, remember that the person who is a spirit healer is a special case, it's not something sought out or learned, despite the mechanic for becoming one in the game.
The spell to stay awake in the fade is the moments when they speak of a ritual, remember the mages in the camp at Ostagar? That was them in the ritual spell to be awake in the fade.
In regards to Spirit Healers, remember that the person who is a spirit healer is a special case, it's not something sought out or learned, despite the mechanic for becoming one in the game.
The spell to stay awake in the fade is the moments when they speak of a ritual, remember the mages in the camp at Ostagar? That was them in the ritual spell to be awake in the fade.
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Posté 01 juillet 2010 - 09:14
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Oh, I do remember those guys. Alright, so there is a ritual. That's well and good.
Then, what about the loading tip that goes something like "Dwarves don't dream because of their innate resistance to magic. Mages are the only mortals that stay aware while in the Fade, but others can "awaken" if forced to be there unwillingly."
If I'm not combining two tips together, that suggests that mages don't actually dream, they just walk around in the Fade all night. I think in the mage origin, a certain character also pokes at being aware, while other mortals are merely dreamers.
Then, what about the loading tip that goes something like "Dwarves don't dream because of their innate resistance to magic. Mages are the only mortals that stay aware while in the Fade, but others can "awaken" if forced to be there unwillingly."
If I'm not combining two tips together, that suggests that mages don't actually dream, they just walk around in the Fade all night. I think in the mage origin, a certain character also pokes at being aware, while other mortals are merely dreamers.
