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[Felestian]

Everybody is saying that we will probably only be getting 10 squadmates at the most in ME3.  I completely agree with this, but that doesn't necessarily mean that only 10 will be recruitable.  I personally think that you will only be allowed 10 on your squad, but there will be a couple that can be recruited.  Here's how I see the list.

If they didn't die in ME 2: Tali, Garrus, Miranda, Legion, Jack, Thane, Grunt, Samara/Morinth, Zaeed, Jacob, Kasumi, Mordin.  With these they could have Thane, Mordin, Kasumi and Zaeed unrecruitable for obvious reasons.  Although, I think they will keep Thane and Mordin alive for ME3 cus I don't see it taking place 2 years later like 2 did.  I see it taking place a couple months later at the latest.

That leaves a list of: (if everyone survived)

Tali
Miranda
Jack
Grunt
Legion
Samara/Morinth
Jacob
Garrus
Grunt
Ashley/Kaiden
Liara
*Thane
*Mordin
*Zaeed
*Kasumi
(As awesome as it would be, I don't think Wrex will be recruitable)

Then I think they will add in some more characters for those people who might have had some of their squad die, or add some diversity.  I can see this:

A Varren- Urz!!!!
A batarian-this is a possiblity
Another salarian
Another human- Gunnery chief lol
Kal Reegar!!!- You know you wanna do it Bioware!
That's all I can think of right now.

With these extra characters able to be recruited, between them and the old ones you are only allowed to recruit 10 and the rest will play roles as an NPC.  What are your thoughts and possible suggestions on new recruits they might add in ME3?

[numotsbane]

I'd say its unlikely any of the ME2 squadmates will be recruitable. at best, they will have cameo's similar to, say, Shiala or wrex. if they die, a nameless generic but somewhat similar person replace them.

My guess is:

-2 new humans at the start

-Liara

-another krogan

-kal'reega. its pretty hard to kill him on haestrom, tbh I've actually never managed it. there may be a conrad style glitch where on the import he always survives.

[Felestian]

I think Grunt will definately still be a squadmate option cus Shephard is his battlemaster.



I can see why Tali might not be a squadmate if you used the persuasion to get her reinstated, but what if she is exiled? All she has left is Shephard.



Jack, what role would she play as an NPC?



Legion- I can see him being an NPC to go off and command the geth



Samara- She has pledged her service to you, I think she will remain a squadmate option.



Miranda and Jacob- I can see them becoming NPC's, but then again, they don't have Cerberus anymore if you destroy the base.



Garrus- I'm pretty sure he would stay by Shep.



I would love it if they made it that certain choices you make determine who can join your squad.

[numotsbane]

Yeah, but you're thinking in story terms. I'm thinking in game design and cost terms. why put the money into animations and voice acting for a whole squadmate when he might never be in the game?

its not something that makes me happy, its just something that sort of makes sense.

[Felestian]

I get what your saying. My whole idea is based on story terms and "wishful thinking". I know that it's most likely not very possible though, because that would add a lot more work for them to put voices to each character for each scenario with so many options. Then again, they are taking there sweet time on ME3, which is a good thing.

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

It really wouldn't make to much sense to just completely sideline all of the ME2 squadmates as cameos. What the hell was the point to make some of the a romance option then? Yeah romance someone in ME2 and hope it carries on to ME3, oh no we all got trolled by bioware and they became crappy cameos with one liners. No, i don't think so. They know how much they pissed off the fans by sidelining the virmire survivors, liara, and wrex. Imagine if they did that again....but with 12 more characters. Imagine the uproar! It would make sense if there is a certain number of open slots for new characters to replace some of the older ones if they died.

[Dominus5412]

Everything will be new. You'll still get your emails though, no worries. After all, we MUST make room for those people who jump into a franchise at its conclusion. Those people are just as valid!

[Kronner]

Dominus5412 wrote...

Everything will be new. You'll still get your emails though, no worries. After all, we MUST make room for those people who jump into a franchise at its conclusion. Those people are just as valid!

Pretty much I guess.

[Cra5y Pineapple]

I think if your character is imported from ME2, you should be able to choose any 4 ME2 squadmates (for me it would be Garrus, Tali, Legion and Grunt but that's just me of course.)



It occured to me, how could the squadmates leave you anyway? At the start of ME2 the ship is destroyed and Shepard is "killed" and it would makes sense then that most of the squadmates have moved on but unless they kill Shepard AGAIN I can't see how they'll break up the team.

[Aesaar]

numotsbane wrote...

Yeah, but you're thinking in story terms. I'm thinking in game design and cost terms. why put the money into animations and voice acting for a whole squadmate when he might never be in the game?
its not something that makes me happy, its just something that sort of makes sense.

How is it cheaper or easier to create entirely new characters, rather than reusing the ones fans know and love? Especially considering that, by this point, everyone knows (or can easily find out) how to finish the suicide mission with no casualties.

Why go through all the trouble of making every one of those 12 characters different, deep and interesting if you're just going to give them a cameo in the last game?  It doesn't really matter for ME1 to ME2, since there's ME3 to get them back, but leaving anyone out for the last installment makes no sense whatsoever.

[faction699]

numotsbane wrote...

Yeah, but you're thinking in story terms. I'm thinking in game design and cost terms. why put the money into animations and voice acting for a whole squadmate when he might never be in the game?
its not something that makes me happy, its just something that sort of makes sense.

They've already done that, just on a smaller scale, with ME2.

Add in the fact that unless you're TRYING to kill your squadmates, everyone will easily live through ME2.  They really made it simple to make sure everyone lives.  It's all based off your choices and not being lazy, none of it is based off how well you play.

That alone is a sign we'll be seeing some ME2 squadmates returning in ME3.  The biggest reason they could do it? It's the last ME game.  ME2 was massively successful.  If you don't think that will motivate them to put extra effort into it, well, that would just show that EA sucks

[Spinotech]

Perhaps they could even have a temporary squadmate slot that depends on what mission is involved.  For example maybe you should have Wrex when the Reapers attack Tunchanka, Aria when the Reapers attack Omega, and maybe Anderson on the Citadel.  I think it could be an interesting idea, but I wonder how difficult that would be to implement. 

[Felestian]

I haven't tried it but I have been told that you have to have at least 4 squad members alive for Shephard to still live. Is that true? If that is true then what Crazy Pineapple said about picking 4 squad members would make some sense. I also agree with you that the squadmates have no reason to leave you, especially if you destroyed the base at the end.

Well, I guess they could come up with some reasons for certain squad members to leave.

Legion-gathering geth
Thane-dies
Zaeed-I can see if he might not stay with Shephard

And that's about it.

Modifié par Felestian, 03 juillet 2010 - 03:20 .

[The Unfallen]

I think the only three Squad members that should NOT leave are Garrus, Tali, and Legion.



The rest can go and pave way for new (or old!) Squad members, like Kaidan, or Liara. I think an old Turian war general with some nasty ass scars (not like Garrus') and a reeeally deep voice and training in heavy weapons would be nice. Probably another Biotic. Oh, and I hope there is an option for your love interest to die in ME 3.

[vvDRUCILLAvv]

The only squaddie I want back in ME3 is my Grunt.

[Xette]

Saying that Bioware doesn't want to waste all the voice-acting and scripting for an entire character that might not even feature in the game isn't a solid argument. In ME1, you can complete the game without recruiting Garrus or Wrex at all and in several other Bioware games you often have the option to reject or sack squadmates.



I'm not saying that means they're all coming back. Just that this a weak argument.

[Draco Spirit]

I don't think there going to be a serous influx of new character in Mass Effect 3. Story wise it the final chapter, hardly the time to start throwing in tons of major new cast members. Also the end of Mass Effect 2 hinted strongly that the start of Mass Effect 3 is going to be prety much 5 minutes after the end of Mass Effect 2...

So I'm guessing that we see a return of most of Mass Effect 2 henchmen, unless they die in the first 5 minutes for shock vaulue HOWEVER a simple way to make thing less hetic is to simply have some of them unplayable from the start. Mordin for example might be stuck in the lab with something important for example.

We might see see the return of Liara and Ashley/Kaiden latter in the plot, but I suspect Mass Effect 3 going to be more about going to places (to stop Reapers) than to pick up people. Shepard got his elite team, now is the time to rock!

Modifié par Draco Spirit, 07 juillet 2010 - 04:31 .

[Mr.Tacito]

The greatest Squad Member was Wrex, but it's extremely unlikely that he'll be recruitable in ME 3, since he's either the Clan Cheif of Urdnot or has died on Virmire.

Maybe a Batarian mercenary could replace Wrex?

[Slakky]

Xette wrote...

Saying that Bioware doesn't want to waste all the voice-acting and scripting for an entire character that might not even feature in the game isn't a solid argument. In ME1, you can complete the game without recruiting Garrus or Wrex at all and in several other Bioware games you often have the option to reject or sack squadmates.

I'm not saying that means they're all coming back. Just that this a weak argument.

They also recorded lines for every character in every mission in ME2 and then tossed it to make the disc split for XBOX.

VA isn't that expensive once you've paid for people to show up.

[epoch_]

i would be shocked if any squad mates returned. At any rate, this topic has been discussed to death.

[grievous04]

How about Cpt. Kerahee, or however you spell it, for the other Saliarian.(if he survived ME1.