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[Poradicus]

Wicked does have a point, this patch Bioware is making is taking too dang long. It's like they have 2 people working on it and the others shelling out DLC. Other anticipated games are close to coming out and people are just going to give up and go to those games. Gothic IV, Diablo 3, Starcraft 2, the list goes on. When Bioware releases Dragon Origin's II, people are going to remember how they rushed out a product with soo many problems. Those people are not going to buy it, simply because of the problems. I have been a Bioware fan for many years, and I know a lot of changed things over the years, now EA owns them. But I don't remember their other games being this bad. I feel EA has something to do with this. The only ones supporting EA are the same ones that don't understand this company is not about customers, they only care about their stocks. Thats how Dell got Alienware, and drove out many employees including me out of the job in 2006. You might hear Alienware is still seperate, thats just a bunch of BS. Alienware is Dell now just like Bioware is EA now. I'm sure Bioware won't be here for long but it saddens me how big corporations care more about green now and not about quality.

[13Dannyboy13]

Why is it that every day someone has to come on here and say that their game is working perfectly just to start sh*t with people having genuine problems? If your game works fine, that's great, play it and have fun, don't come here and talk sh*t to the people that have been waiting almost nine months for this game to work properly. Until now I've been fairly silent, content to wait for updates on the patch while the game collects more dust, it's already been sitting for months, I don't care about a few more weeks. The posts I've been reading lately have started to become very annoying and repetitive though, how people can come here and say the game has no problems is completely contrdicted by the growing list of fixes being listed in the first post by Victor. The game has some major bugs no matter what system you play on, this has been admitted by Bioware and is being addressed in the patch, so sitting there and saying it's all fine is just aggrevating the people who can't play the game without many problems.

[Wicked 702]

Awakenings was released in March. That's 4 months ago, not 2.5.

We have a different definition of game breaking bugs. Per mine, there are currently no less than 3 game breaking bugs in the original DA:O version on the Xbox 360. That's 8 months now without proper fixes. Per yours, there is still one - the corrupted save bug. Hopefully, this patch will actually fix that one as it purports to do. But that's a darn long-time coming don't you think?

And finally, this definitely is the worst game I've ever seen (and trust me I know there are worse, that's not the point). Name me one Squaresoft or SquareEnix game with a comparable bug list. Go ahead, try and find one. You won't.

[xxSylphxx]

BomimoDK wrote...

Oh, get the **** over
it... the rest of us have been playing it fine enough. how about at
least installing it instead of behaving like this? you come across as if
someone wronged you... makes you look real spoiled. how about fixing it
yourself, it's working perfectly for many of us. It's real aggrevating
sitting here, mine performing fine listening to this babble. every
gamebreaking bug so far has a counterfix, either by mod or by some easy
steps. Bury your pride and try to enjoy what you have.

is it that hard? Really? i think a lot of you are making a bigger problem than it is. please, just play what you can and come back when your save is corrupted after 124 turns as Austria because the British AI ****s up, ok? If you think there are gamebreakers in THIS game, then welcome to gaming, where the hell have you been the past 30 years, especially during the inlicensed NES carthridge era?

On the other side of the coin... patching is slow as hell. it's very critizisable. Patches fixing severe bugs in games are usually out VERY soon after a release, not 2 moths and 14 days later. 

I don't care if they say we're wrongly angered, they give us no redeeming circumstances as to why on the other hand, they do not tell us to shut up either. still, getting the facts would relieve alot of anger.

Wow, such vitriol BomimoDK and I haven't a clue what I might have done to earn it.

I’m a console player and still enjoy playing the original DAO. My understanding is that DAA in its current state can adversely affect even Orgins saves, something I am not the least bit interested in risking. Further, I would like to have the most fulfilling DAA experience possible. My hope is that the patch will enrich my DAA experience by removing some of the bugs that are/have annoyed others greatly. If I can avoid some of the problems by waiting, why wouldn't I choose to do that? I fail to see any logic in your statements.

One of the reasons I took a break from both the game and the community is that somehow many people here think asking for solutions to existing problems in DAO or DAA is some sort of personal insult to them. That makes no sense. Patches that actually fix more problems than they cause benefit everyone who plays the game. Why are you trying to shout down those who ask for them? It serves only to invent unnecessary conflict and is counterproductive to the entire community.

The more customers who demand better service and better products the greater the chance are that we ALL receive better service and better products. How that can can be construed as a bad thing or something worthy of attacking a complete stranger for is utterly and completely beyond me. There is a quote I think fits here perfectly: If you are not part of the solution then you are part of the problem. As a customer you have two readily available ways to work towards a solution and they are your purchasing power and your voice. I have used both of mine in the past here in this forum in an effort to improve things for mysylph and the entire community. Though my successes are few, they are not nonexistant. How is what you are doing of benefit to yourself or anyone else?

[BomimoDK]

Wicked 702 wrote...

Awakenings was released in March. That's 4 months ago, not 2.5.
We have a different definition of game breaking bugs. Per mine, there are currently no less than 3 game breaking bugs in the original DA:O version on the Xbox 360. That's 8 months now without proper fixes. Per yours, there is still one - the corrupted save bug. Hopefully, this patch will actually fix that one as it purports to do. But that's a darn long-time coming don't you think?
And finally, this definitely is the worst game I've ever seen (and trust me I know there are worse, that's not the point). Name me one Squaresoft or SquareEnix game with a comparable bug list. Go ahead, try and find one. You won't.

1. agree, darn long coming.
2. i still think there are worse games (any game ever made by black isle and obsidian) and i cannot mention any Square game with bugs, simply because they do a darn good job. Now, let's turn this around and you just play Action 52 for the nes and tell me, straight to my face that those 52 games do not have more bugs in each of their first levels than DA has in its entire current catalogue.

Bioware usually has bugs... i don't know when or if they fix them, but it's part of the culture surround bot their games AND the Black Isle/obsidian games that:

1. the games become cult classics with a small following.
2. Modders usually fix the games up sooner and better than the developers did.
3. they are some of the most deep, hardcore and mind-wringling RPGs ever created.

I didn't expect this trend to change when i bought the game and i never will. i can relate to not knowing about this and i agree that it is unacceptable, but it is what we have lived with since 1998 and it has worked allright so far. i suspect the same for this game.

Much can be said about this/these games, but they aren't bad GAMES, they're just delivered in a bad state. it is sad though, since it will only be those with a passion for the game that will endure long enough to experience those patches and fixes.

I stand by what i say, its errors are being exagerated for dramatic effect by angry people and there are far less gamebreakers than you guys want there to be.

[BomimoDK]

xxSylphxx wrote...

BomimoDK wrote...

Oh, get the **** over
it... the rest of us have been playing it fine enough. how about at
least installing it instead of behaving like this? you come across as if
someone wronged you... makes you look real spoiled. how about fixing it
yourself, it's working perfectly for many of us. It's real aggrevating
sitting here, mine performing fine listening to this babble. every
gamebreaking bug so far has a counterfix, either by mod or by some easy
steps. Bury your pride and try to enjoy what you have.

is it that hard? Really? i think a lot of you are making a bigger problem than it is. please, just play what you can and come back when your save is corrupted after 124 turns as Austria because the British AI ****s up, ok? If you think there are gamebreakers in THIS game, then welcome to gaming, where the hell have you been the past 30 years, especially during the inlicensed NES carthridge era?

On the other side of the coin... patching is slow as hell. it's very critizisable. Patches fixing severe bugs in games are usually out VERY soon after a release, not 2 moths and 14 days later. 

I don't care if they say we're wrongly angered, they give us no redeeming circumstances as to why on the other hand, they do not tell us to shut up either. still, getting the facts would relieve alot of anger.

Wow, such vitriol BomimoDK and I haven't a clue what I might have done to earn it.

I’m a console player and still enjoy playing the original DAO. My understanding is that DAA in its current state can adversely affect even Orgins saves, something I am not the least bit interested in risking. Further, I would like to have the most fulfilling DAA experience possible. My hope is that the patch will enrich my DAA experience by removing some of the bugs that are/have annoyed others greatly. If I can avoid some of the problems by waiting, why wouldn't I choose to do that? I fail to see any logic in your statements.

One of the reasons I took a break from both the game and the community is that somehow many people here think asking for solutions to existing problems in DAO or DAA is some sort of personal insult to them. That makes no sense. Patches that actually fix more problems than they cause benefit everyone who plays the game. Why are you trying to shout down those who ask for them? It serves only to invent unnecessary conflict and is counterproductive to the entire community.

The more customers who demand better service and better products the greater the chance are that we ALL receive better service and better products. How that can can be construed as a bad thing or something worthy of attacking a complete stranger for is utterly and completely beyond me. There is a quote I think fits here perfectly: If you are not part of the solution then you are part of the problem. As a customer you have two readily available ways to work towards a solution and they are your purchasing power and your voice. I have used both of mine in the past here in this forum in an effort to improve things for mysylph and the entire community. Though my successes are few, they are not nonexistant. How is what you are doing of benefit to yourself or anyone else?

Agree. but i really am getting tired of enhanced truths about the state of the game and whatnot. you should heed my words and rather turn to the modding community for fixes as you will not EVER get it 100% fixed here no matter how hard Bioware will try... it's been like that forever for any Obsidian/bioware/black isle related game.

I perseive enhancing truths (lying) and pretending to be helpless as a personal insult, bot towards yourself and any other users. especially when all your problems do have fixes in the form of mods. instead of insisting that you get help from ONE SPECIFIC SOURCE, do take whatever hand is extended towards you anything else looks... foolish and has got an aggrevating effect on those of us who are aware of the usual procedure surrounding this developers games. (i do realize that you couldn't have.)

and now the dime dropped... you're on a console, you're basically helpless and can do nothing but scream at them... sorry, i should have realized that.

As for your last words: Well, i don't really need to speak up about much else that some delayed patches... not even that. i know that in a few years, the mod community will have this in an A+ state and a lot of new extra content for the main campaign like what we're paying for currently. I cannot realistically demand the same of you since we're in a different situation, but these facts are the reason I do not feel a need to demonstrate anything here.

I'd rather spend my time telling Activision, their franchises, Xbox-loving and their higher prices to go drown in a lake since that's where the REAL bullfeces is at.

13Dannyboy13 wrote...

Why is it that every day someone has
to come on here and say that their game is working perfectly just to
start sh*t with people having genuine problems? If your game works fine,
that's great, play it and have fun, don't come here and talk sh*t to
the people that have been waiting almost nine months for this game to
work properly. Until now I've been fairly silent, content to wait for
updates on the patch while the game collects more dust, it's already
been sitting for months, I don't care about a few more weeks. The posts
I've been reading lately have started to become very annoying and
repetitive though, how people can come here and say the game has no
problems is completely contrdicted by the growing list of fixes being
listed in the first post by Victor. The game has some major bugs no
matter what system you play on, this has been admitted by Bioware and is
being addressed in the patch, so sitting there and saying it's all fine
is just aggrevating the people who can't play the game without many
problems.

as far as i understand so far, i experience the same bugs as you do.. i just don't sit cry about it, i go where i know a fix could possibly be found first and THEN i debate with myself wether losing duncans sword is worth getting miffed or not.

Again, if you're on a console i can relate, since... what is there to do?

Modifié par BomimoDK, 07 juillet 2010 - 01:06 .

[13Dannyboy13]

BomimoDK wrote...

Wicked 702 wrote...

Awakenings was released in March. That's 4 months ago, not 2.5.
We have a different definition of game breaking bugs. Per mine, there are currently no less than 3 game breaking bugs in the original DA:O version on the Xbox 360. That's 8 months now without proper fixes. Per yours, there is still one - the corrupted save bug. Hopefully, this patch will actually fix that one as it purports to do. But that's a darn long-time coming don't you think?
And finally, this definitely is the worst game I've ever seen (and trust me I know there are worse, that's not the point). Name me one Squaresoft or SquareEnix game with a comparable bug list. Go ahead, try and find one. You won't.

1. agree, darn long coming.
2. i still think there are worse games (any game ever made by black isle and obsidian) and i cannot mention any Square game with bugs, simply because they do a darn good job. Now, let's turn this around and you just play Action 52 for the nes and tell me, straight to my face that those 52 games do not have more bugs in each of their first levels than DA has in its entire current catalogue.

Bioware usually has bugs... i don't know when or if they fix them, but it's part of the culture surround bot their games AND the Black Isle/obsidian games that:

1. the games become cult classics with a small following.
2. Modders usually fix the games up sooner and better than the developers did.
3. they are some of the most deep, hardcore and mind-wringling RPGs ever created.

I didn't expect this trend to change when i bought the game and i never will. i can relate to not knowing about this and i agree that it is unacceptable, but it is what we have lived with since 1998 and it has worked allright so far. i suspect the same for this game.

Much can be said about this/these games, but they aren't bad GAMES, they're just delivered in a bad state. it is sad though, since it will only be those with a passion for the game that will endure long enough to experience those patches and fixes.

I stand by what i say, its errors are being exagerated for dramatic effect by angry people and there are far less gamebreakers than you guys want there to be.

The fact that modders can fix the game means nothing to those playing on consoles who can't use mods to fix the game sadly. All games have bugs, we all can agree on that, it's just that with this game there are some serious bugs that have not been addressed until this patch, save corruption is an obvious one. After losing almost 250 hours and all my characters I can say that it is a game breaking bug, and was almost literally "game breaking" because I was a second away from snapping my disc in half after I found the bug the hard way. While many people will not agree that the dex bug is a "major" bug the fact that a main stat has been broken since day one says a lot about how well the game was tested, almost nine months later it's still broken, and while daggers are being fixed there is no word of anything else affected by the bug being fixed.
The problem for most people that are upset is the fact that it's taken so long for this patch to even be announced when some major bugs have been around and well documented for so many months. The fact that new dlc keep rolling out just delays patches even more because everything done up till the dlc now needs to be retested to make sure it's compatible with the latest dlc. It's frustration with the overall support that really bugs most people, until now it has been very lacking.
I'm hoping that this patch will be a success, and help restore some faith in Bioware that has been lost, but that remains to be seen, it will most likely be months before we even see this patch since it hasn't even gone to MS/Sony for certification.

[BomimoDK]

Call me... well, whatever. but how is it even a good idea to develop for consoles when your games are usually repaired by modders on PC. As much as it's a good idea to reach as many as possible... was it worth it? I think it turned out to be a real bad move. but one can always sit here afterwards and berate.

I did not meant to be rude or provoke... i DID mean to tell people to stick it and get back to complaining on a realistic level instead of making it the end of the world. a minor bug should never be equalled to a gamebreaker the likes of Save corruptions or broken NPCs. That's what it was about, not Bragging about by "perfect" game, not "trolling". it's just that.. no one wants to listen when people cross a certain line.. two feathers became 5 hen.

Modifié par BomimoDK, 07 juillet 2010 - 01:12 .

[vonFurious]

I do feel for those waiting to play Awakenings.



It was fun when I was "hot" for Dragon Age. Three months ago.



Even if they "fix" the expansion it will not improve upon what is essentially a sub-par production. I was more charitable at the time of release, eager to overlook its obvious flaws to play & all, but waiting for a patch that will "fix" Awakenings will leave you waiting. And Waiting. And Waiting.



And Waiting.

[switzki]

BomimoDK wrote...
i know that in a few years, the mod community will have this in an A+ state and a lot of new extra content for the main campaign like what we're paying for currently.

Well, the thing is, most consumers don't buy games to shelve them for a few years until after the modding community has fixed/enhanced them. If that's the plan, then you wait a few years and buy after the price drops. Many of the people you find complaining here are early adopters who pre-ordered the game last summer and are still waiting for fixes to significant, glaring defects with a product they paid a premium for. That doesn't excuse rudeness, but it should certainly explain anger.

[ladydesire]

BomimoDK wrote...

Call me... well, whatever. but how is it even a good idea to
develop for consoles when your games are usually repaired by
modders on PC.

Just because there are modders that do fix bugs in the game is no reason to ignore them all together; that's not why Bioware has provided the toolset for DA and it wasn't the reason they provided the one for Neverwinter Nights.

As much as it's a good idea to reach as many
as possible... was it worth it? I think it turned out to be a real
bad move. but one can always sit here afterwards and berate.

I don't think Bioware had much choice, since they are owned by EA (check the back of your game disc case and see who owns the trademarks for the Bioware Logo); this is also the first game that I know of where the company that did the console port (or other port) has not been responsible for the patches as well.

[BomimoDK]

switzki wrote...

BomimoDK wrote...
i know that in a few years, the mod community will have this in an A+ state and a lot of new extra content for the main campaign like what we're paying for currently.

Well, the thing is, most consumers don't buy games to shelve them for a few years until after the modding community has fixed/enhanced them. If that's the plan, then you wait a few years and buy after the price drops. Many of the people you find complaining here are early adopters who pre-ordered the game last summer and are still waiting for fixes to significant, glaring defects with a product they paid a premium for. That doesn't excuse rudeness, but it should certainly explain anger.

Agreed. The lack of proper patching procedure is frustrating... much more frustraging when going on here, seing people exagerate and provide what ends up being false information to the developers. the complaints are less useless if they stick the the reality of what happens. not what reality people "Feel" at the moment.
the fact that we can not do anything but wonder why it takes so long is equally frustrating, and as i've said many times, explains why people are assuming that they're just plain lazy... we aren't told why. but a healthy mind must assume that it is due to either DLC, another expansion or the sequel. it is still critizisable though.

[dragonsouce]

13Dannyboy13 wrote...

Why is it that every day someone has to come on here and say that their game is working perfectly just to start sh*t with people having genuine problems? If your game works fine, that's great, play it and have fun, don't come here and talk sh*t to the people that have been waiting almost nine months for this game to work properly. Until now I've been fairly silent, content to wait for updates on the patch while the game collects more dust, it's already been sitting for months, I don't care about a few more weeks. The posts I've been reading lately have started to become very annoying and repetitive though, how people can come here and say the game has no problems is completely contrdicted by the growing list of fixes being listed in the first post by Victor. The game has some major bugs no matter what system you play on, this has been admitted by Bioware and is being addressed in the patch, so sitting there and saying it's all fine is just aggrevating the people who can't play the game without many problems.

Thank you! I could not say it better myself at Gun Point!!!
If you got no problem DO NOT POST!!!! For that matter why are you posting.
except to annoy us!
The Game is broken this is a fact anyone who claims it is not is full of crap.
There lots wrong with it.
I find it amost amusing that Bioware seems Happy that this new Patch fixes +100 approval Bugs (there words what ever approval bugs means. are there none approval bugs?
So how can anyone be possibly running a bug freegame????? 
Since the media it self is BUGGY!!! Not just the engine but the quests are broke.
So how did these lucky few get a copy of the game that not only dose not crash(possible) but has not broken quests? (That not possible no matter your platform or hardwear.
Oh yes there a way, there full of crap and are to dence to notice the BUGS BIOWARE SAYS ARE THERE!.
Or there fanboys and girls who are just full crap and lying.

As for seing people exagerate My OS FROZE ! and had to hard boot . How the h#ll do you exagerate that???
It has been a well documented crash not exagerated in the least. And since turning the power off on my PC Damaged the harddrive how dose it get worse to exagerate!?

Maybe I could Say it blew up and transformed in to a Despticon  killed me with Megertron?
It's Bad sloppy code! Not a exageration!

They can see on there website the last time we ran the game they should give us DLC to all who have not played in over 4 months or beta keys something. This is just ... I am out words...............................

Modifié par dragonsouce, 07 juillet 2010 - 03:38 .

[artsangel]

dragonsouce wrote...
I find it amost amusing that Bioware seems Happy that this new Patch fixes +100 approval Bugs (there words what ever approval bugs means. are there none approval bugs?

In other words, a bug that allowed you to get +100 approval points with party members without needing to be nice or do their personal quests. Not 100 separate bugs

--

Sadly, looks like I'm one of the people who can't install Leliana's Song. Only other notable bug I've seen since 1.03 personally has been the pickpocket problem, which I initially thought was due to my modding the heck out of the game after I'd finished it. Good too see it'll be fixed.

We can all stomp our feet and fume and throw insults at Bioware, but in the end, all we can really do is a) wait or not buy their stuff. You know they're probably not paying attention to the flaming.

Modifié par artsangel, 07 juillet 2010 - 04:43 .

[Branji]

@BomimoDK:

You (and people like you) came here to be rude and to provoke (not just here but other threads). You (and others) ignored (for a long time) that some people posted that they were on a console and couldn't use mods as a workaround. You claimed your game is working fine yet now claim you experience the same bugs. That is a huge contradiction. Your game can't be working fine while experiencing the bugs.



Then you think the people are lying about the bugs. Wrong. The bugs are there. They are not "false information". People have mentioned the Qwinnfix patch which is wonderful (fixes close to 100 bugs) if you have a PC. Pay attention: CONSOLES CAN'T USE THE PC MODS AS A WORKAROUND. Treating those with problems as if they are stupid or nothing but whiners is incredibly insulting, and it shows the attitude of the fanboys who just don't get it that there are serious problems with the game. Many of us don't want to struggle with workarounds to may be be able to play for a little while. We want to play the game the way it was supposed to be played.



People coming here and insulting those who are experiencing lots of problems are fanboys who want everyone who has problems to go away so the forums are full of nothing but EA/Bioware-worshipping posts so potential customers will think the game is supposedly nearly bug free. Then what happens? New customers buy a game only to find that the game has many bugs. Then there will be even more angry players who will wonder why no one on the forums mentioned the bugs. Fans are angry and have every right to be so.



Mass Effect 2 came out after Dragons Age yet those fans (including consoles) have received nice patches. Yet we (especially console) are still waiting. By the way, for those who say Bioware is new to patching consoles and that is why it is taking so long, that doesn't explain why Mass Effect 2 console players have already received patches.



And one last thing. Bioware should concentrate on patching, not more DLC (until the game is fixed). Some fans have said why should they have to wait for DLC. I say why should fans have to wait for 9+ months for a freaking patch?

[Eurypterid]

Everyone needs to calm down and take a breather. If you don't like what someone has posted, then ignore it. If you feel you can't ignore it, then step away from the keyboard. Seriously. If you people can't stop flaming and insulting each other, then you'll be barred from posting for a while.



Savvy?

[wicked_being]

Well my PS3's prompting me to update to patch 1.03, should I download it? I really have no idea what patch you guys are talking about so is it 1.03?

[Branji]

@Eurypterid:

When fanboys, especially the PC fans who can use mods as a workaround; and those who claim the game is basically flawless (when it has many bugs on ALL platforms); and when they are insulting to those who are having problems and treat them like they are idiots; and when Bioware sits back and lets this happen again and again, and does almost nothing about it (and that inflames things more); and has been letting this go on for many months, do you think those fans (especially the console fans who are still waiting for a patch yet more DLC is released) are just going to sit back and put up with it?



No one seems to be on the side of those who have been waiting 9+ months for a patch, not even Bioware.

[standardpack]

BomimoDK wrote...

Call me... well, whatever. but how is it even a good idea to develop for consoles when your games are usually repaired by modders on PC. As much as it's a good idea to reach as many as possible... was it worth it? I think it turned out to be a real bad move. but one can always sit here afterwards and berate.

I did not meant to be rude or provoke... i DID mean to tell people to stick it and get back to complaining on a realistic level instead of making it the end of the world. a minor bug should never be equalled to a gamebreaker the likes of Save corruptions or broken NPCs. That's what it was about, not Bragging about by "perfect" game, not "trolling". it's just that.. no one wants to listen when people cross a certain line.. two feathers became 5 hen.

You did not meant to provoke or be rude?  Did you even read your post? It practically shouts "I'm worse than the complainers on these forums" written all over it.  "No one wants to listen when they cross a certain line"?  Well congratulations, you just won the solid gold cupie doll on that regard.  If your so fed up with listening to other people rant then just read the posts by Bioware and not the players.

[standardpack]

Branji wrote...

@BomimoDK:
You (and people like you) came here to be rude and to provoke (not just here but other threads). You (and others) ignored (for a long time) that some people posted that they were on a console and couldn't use mods as a workaround. You claimed your game is working fine yet now claim you experience the same bugs. That is a huge contradiction. Your game can't be working fine while experiencing the bugs.

Then you think the people are lying about the bugs. Wrong. The bugs are there. They are not "false information". People have mentioned the Qwinnfix patch which is wonderful (fixes close to 100 bugs) if you have a PC. Pay attention: CONSOLES CAN'T USE THE PC MODS AS A WORKAROUND. Treating those with problems as if they are stupid or nothing but whiners is incredibly insulting, and it shows the attitude of the fanboys who just don't get it that there are serious problems with the game. Many of us don't want to struggle with workarounds to may be be able to play for a little while. We want to play the game the way it was supposed to be played.

People coming here and insulting those who are experiencing lots of problems are fanboys who want everyone who has problems to go away so the forums are full of nothing but EA/Bioware-worshipping posts so potential customers will think the game is supposedly nearly bug free. Then what happens? New customers buy a game only to find that the game has many bugs. Then there will be even more angry players who will wonder why no one on the forums mentioned the bugs. Fans are angry and have every right to be so.

Mass Effect 2 came out after Dragons Age yet those fans (including consoles) have received nice patches. Yet we (especially console) are still waiting. By the way, for those who say Bioware is new to patching consoles and that is why it is taking so long, that doesn't explain why Mass Effect 2 console players have already received patches.

And one last thing. Bioware should concentrate on patching, not more DLC (until the game is fixed). Some fans have said why should they have to wait for DLC. I say why should fans have to wait for 9+ months for a freaking patch?

I think I heard someone say that the patch crew and the crew that works on DLC are two separate teams.

[joey_mork84]

standardpack wrote...

I think I heard someone say that the patch crew and the crew that works on DLC are two separate teams.

I would assume they are seperate teams. Its very hard to believe that every employee at Bioware is working only on DLC and nothing else.

@Branji: That's a two-way street. The users having the bugs shouldn't get flamed, that's agreed, but those NOT having these issues shouldn't get flamed either. That has been happening just as much and more so in the previous threads.

Modifié par joey_mork84, 07 juillet 2010 - 06:47 .

[Eurypterid]

Branji wrote...

@Eurypterid:
When fanboys, especially the PC fans who can use mods as a workaround; and those who claim the game is basically flawless (when it has many bugs on ALL platforms); and when they are insulting to those who are having problems and treat them like they are idiots; and when Bioware sits back and lets this happen again and again, and does almost nothing about it (and that inflames things more); and has been letting this go on for many months, do you think those fans (especially the console fans who are still waiting for a patch yet more DLC is released) are just going to sit back and put up with it?

No one seems to be on the side of those who have been waiting 9+ months for a patch, not even Bioware.

I don't care what platform you're playing on or what 'side' you're on. If people persist in flaming others, they're going to get a vacation from these forums. I'm sick of reading these flmaes and insults.

Just to be clear: I'm not a BioWare employee. Just a regular forum member like everyone else, albeit with moderator powers. I've not played the game for several weeks, since I too am waiting for the patch. But I'm not going to sit by and let people sling insults at each other either. I don't care what perceived provocation is used as an excuse.

I hope that's clear enough.

[Branji]

@Eurypterid:



This is not a personal attack, but NOW after many months of us getting flamed, you post about how tired you are of the flaming? (When we first were asking about a patch, after PC fans got 2, we were flamed. We just wondered where was our patch.) Where have you been for the past several months? You and other moderators have done almost nothing all this time.

[Squeelookle]

The Programmer's Definition of a Patch:

Old bugs out, new bugs in.

IMO, Console users have it harder. I'd like to see their games fixed before we PC users get ours, Ancestors' honest truth.

Oh and a small note to people who say to DL Qwinn's Fix Pack (as awesome as it is):

At some point I believe we can all agree on that a DLC will need V1.04 installed.

Whatever you do, please don't do a Witcher EE on this, which was effectively downloading the game engine (but it was much improved).

[Revan1701]

Jeez, havent Bioware patched this game yet?

Modifié par Revan1701, 07 juillet 2010 - 10:29 .