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[Skilled Seeker]

Fizzeler wrote...

Ecael wrote...

Mass Effect 2's Overlord DLC has the best final boss (and the best Critical Mission Failure).

Easily one of the best Boss Fights in ME2 (and quite challenging)

Really? I finished it with both my characters on my first attempt, insanity difficulty each time. The Collecter ship trap has got to be the toughest boss fight.

[Crysis I]

the end of mass effect 2 was amazing, you could feel the desperation of the crew fighting in the base and harbinger talking to sheperd it was brilliant. very well written and the music was bang on even better then the first game with the suicide mission soundtrack on the credits. the game had better control mechanics and it was just so more appealing. don't get me wrong i loved the first game its one of the best games ive played but it did have many flaws which made it not that popular at first. i think both games are as good as each other neither is better then the other they both have their pros and cons. but it is like star wars in the way that the fans will always be divided upon which is there favorite part of the trilogy. some will always have me1 as their favorite mainly due to saren and some will always prefer 2 due to the collector base ending.

[Cra5y Pineapple]

Bioware are incredibly good at making final cutscenes. I'll definately give them that.

I can't decide between ME1 and ME2.

In ME1 it was so tragic, the experiance for me was heart-wrenching. Garrus shaking his head as Anderson asks about Shepard and Tali looking back on the ruins of Sovereign looking distraught then "HAI GUYZ I R BAKZ!" which was pretty awsome but the music to acompany his return seemed oddly cheesy...but whatever the tragicness made up for it.

In ME2 it was more dramatic. Thinking my two favourite companions from ME1 had died, lifting up the rubble while my Shepard probably was tearing up underneath that N7 helmet then discovering everyone survived and feeling so relieved and then Harbinger's speech which I personally loved. The Mad Dash and jump was also pretty epic because for a second you're like "nooooes he not gonna make it!" And the best soundtrack known to man.

I can't decide though.

Modifié par Cra5y Pineapple, 05 juillet 2010 - 12:16 .

[SithLordExarKun]

homestyle wrote...


Romance is another topic. If you want to start one, I'll be happy to join you (no pun intended).

No, there is no point. Romance in both ME games are terrible.

homestyle wrote...
I didn't do the Kaiden love story. I'm a dude. But most would agree that the Ash and Shep romance was more intricate and involved than it is with Shep and Miri.

And Jacks and tali's romance was more intricate and involved than it is with shep and ashley.

The sword cuts both ways my friend. I have never bothered romancing ashley whenever i play a maleshep. And as for kaiden and liara(who has a HUGE crush on you just after ONE conversation), they were absolutely boring characters.

homestyle wrote...
I'm all for character development, but don't make it so predicatable to be sick.

And just how exactly is it predictable? You mean by simply completing theit missions they gain your loyalty? Oh wait, thats a hell alot better than ME1's "loyalty missions" for garrus and wrex.

homestyle wrote...
Don't make loyalty a swtich that turns on. Don't make each character's loyalty switch the same

  Its a gameplay mechanic, absolutely nothing to do with the story.

homestyle wrote...
. And don't tell me explicitly that a character is now loyal. Humans have been fighting geth for the past 3 years. My own crewmate from ME1, Tali, has been battling geth for a long time. I help a geth destroy a base and BAM he is now loyal... barf.

Obviously you never paid attention to any of the dialogue, legion was part of the main geth faction, one that claims they don't show any hostility to any race unlike the herectics, shepard and the normandy crew(including tali) are the only ones that know this, the other humans, don't.


I don't know where this argument is going, you obviously tried to go off track because you don't know how to respond to my posts properly.

[RyuGuitarFreak]

Mass Effect 2. The starship battle was awesome but the cheesy "debris falling on Shepard's and sudden appearance" wasn't really cool. The counterpart with the escape from the Collector Base is much more cool.

The final conversation with TIM is much more impacting than the council/anderson/udina one's too.

And then the reaper fleet which gives a huge expectation for ME3. There's not a great counterpart for that on ME1.

[kraidy1117]

I am goig to have to sat ME2. Yes Soverign blowing up and Shepard walking way from the council as Anderson gives his speech was epic, but blowing up the Collector base, being pulled up by Miri., telling TIM to f*ck off, having everyone live and looknig out the window then the scene cutting to the Reaper fleet coming towards the Galaxy. Way more epic IMHO.

[TheScientist]

ME1 because of the sense of scale. Not only the visual scale of walking on the Citadel w/ a Reaper overhead (which was the most impressive jaw-dropping gaming moment I'd had in a long time), but having the combined fleet, the Council, a station of 12 million people and the billions if not trillions in the galaxy at stake---yea... in ME2 you were in a bee hive fighting bugs and a terminator over a "bottomless shaft" straight out of star wars.

[Whatever Works]

*grudgingly compares ME 1 to ME 2*



ME 2 has the scene where you jump to the shuttle. It is more epic because the flow of the music was better orchestrated.



ME 1 had the Shepard is alive thing. Its music was well done, but not as driving.



Also both convo's with TIM were better than the council, although Udina and Anderson by themselves was pretty cool.

[Tooneyman]

ME 1 set me up to play ME 2. ME 2 has set me up to play ME 3. Once I get the final game. I let you know which is epic. Guess what its probably going to be the final one! HA! and its not even out yet! Double HA!

[Whatever Works]

Damnit this just makes me want to beat both ME 1 and 2 again. I just want a version of each game that is the final mission of both games since that is when the game is at its best. Give me a top level character and equipment and just let me run through the Citadel and the C Base



Would play it like fifty times

[toddx77]

Mass Effect 2 all the way. I find the suicide mission the most epic thing I have ever done in a video game. I loved how in the end survial depended on how you treated your team and your ship. As many of you said the music makes the suicide mission so much more epic. The whole idea of taking your team and your ship into the unknown and getting in and out kept me on edge the whole time. The first time I played the suicide mission I couldn't even sit down. Also the fear of not knowing if someone is going to die or not makes it all the more epic. My first play through I lost 6 people so the whole time I kept freaking out another person was going to die. All of that with and picking certain squad mates for certain task, fighting the enemy on their own terf, epic music made for quite the experience. Not to mention the end scene when running to your ship and it flying away. The scene that does it for me is when it goes to a somewhat slow shot of the normandy flying away from the base while it is exploding is pure epic.



I actually found Mass Effect 2's story to be important overall to the main story which in part to led to its epic ending. For starters while it seems like in Mass Effect 2 we really did have a big a threat as in Mass Effect 1 I think the real difference is that in Mass Effect 1 it was just more well known. While the council did want to keep Saren going rouge a secret it did get out and eventually the council was helping us. In Mass Effect 2 the story was just more secret and while only shepard and his crew knew about it for the most part I think it still mattered. If the collectors weren't stopped thousands of more humans would have died and who knows how powerful that human reaper could have been.



As for the all the character recruitments that also added to the epicness even though it wasn't directly related to the story with the collectors. The thing with recruiting more people reminds me of One Piece. If you read and/or watch One Piece you know that in the begining pretty much every story arc is about recruting a character and does not have anything to do with Luffy finding the One Piece. Just like Luffy went around gathering a crew to help him look for the One Piece Shepard gathers a crew to help him stop the collectors. In One Piece every character has a reason to join Luffies crew and go to the grand line to find the One Piece just like every character in Mass Effect 2 has reason to join Shepard and stop the collectors. So I think another reason why the ending to Mass Effect 2 is so epic is because you get to know your crew, help them with a problem they hold special to them and thanout that loyalty to the test in a suicide mission to save the galaxy. The fate of the galaxy is in your hands and the galaxy doesn't even know there is a problem, not to mention Shepard and Lufffies crew are both filled with interesting characters.

[Daforth]

The comparison is correct if you compare ME1 endgame from the point entering Ilos with ME2 endgame from the point entering the Omega-4 relay, because these are the points of no return when the endgame sequence is started.

In this sense - and agreeing with puglous - ME1 was more epic, but ME2 was same good. The build up in both is good, cutscenes are good, final confrontation and conclusion is good in both. But ME2 cannot be epic as ME1 because of the different scale of the story. In ME1 Council races are involved, Geth army is there along with Sovereign fighting in the center, the capital city of the Council Space. Of course it is more epic. In ME2 a small grp fight in a generally inaccessible part of the galaxy that most of the galaxy's ppl do not even know. (Not to mention, that those ppl do not even believe/know what you fight for.) It is a high risk, suicide mission, which should be grim, dark. desperate. (Actually I think it is not even enough grim and dark.)

So, my point is that comparison based on "epicness" is not really correct as the two story is different. ME1 ending SHOULD be epic based on the scale of the story. ME2 ending SHOULD be grim, depressive, giving the feeling to the player how this story arcs forward (the last part with the appearing Reaper horde gives a glimpse about it).

ME1 ending brought what it should, it was epic and relieving, a "YEAH WE DID IT!" type feeling.
ME2 ending brought the suicide, desperate fight in the dark, and its not so relieving, "Ok, we did it, but ..." feeling, that it should be.
(And ME3 ending must be a maddafakking epic overload! )

Modifié par Daforth, 05 juillet 2010 - 07:08 .

[Spornicus]

Both the endgames were really ****ing awesome.



Best moment from each:

ME1 - The citadel opening and the human fleet pouring through.

ME2 - Shepard looking into space and then cutting to dark space, where the reapers turn on and start moving toward the galaxy.



E.P.I.C.

[Whatever Works]

The final mission in ME 2 was the most intense thing I have ever experienced in a video game from a gameplay and emotional standpoint knowing that at any moment someone could die and the final act of SHepard jumping to the Normandy and getting pulled up was just

[Ieldra]

Whatever Works wrote...

The final mission in ME 2 was the most intense thing I have ever experienced in a video game from a gameplay and emotional standpoint knowing that at any moment someone could die and the final act of SHepard jumping to the Normandy and getting pulled up was just

I have to agree with this. The ME2 overall storyline was inferior to ME1's but the suicide mission was so well-made that there's no comparison. The best mix of exciting gameplay, storytelling and epic presentation I've yet seen in a game.  

[toddx77]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Whatever Works wrote...

The final mission in ME 2 was the most intense thing I have ever experienced in a video game from a gameplay and emotional standpoint knowing that at any moment someone could die and the final act of SHepard jumping to the Normandy and getting pulled up was just

I have to agree with this. The ME2 overall storyline was inferior to ME1's but the suicide mission was so well-made that there's no comparison. The best mix of exciting gameplay, storytelling and epic presentation I've yet seen in a game.  

All games should have their final part be as epic as th suicide mission. I've never had an intense feeling like that while playing a game before.

[Fedowyn]

Love both endings, probably the best in the gaming industry.

ME1 had a pretty epic feel at the end. saving the council from certian death, watching the alliance take down soverign, and having commander shepard emerge from the wreckage in the citadel tower after defeating saren.

But I will say, the ME2 suicide mission was by far the best endgame expirence i've had. freaking EPIC mix of music, storytelling, action, and finally solving the mystery of the missing colonists. also, props to joker for coving shepard while he/she jumps into the airlock 

Nostalga has me leaning towards ME1, but the epicness of ME2 is on another level. It's a tie in my book.

Modifié par Fedowyn, 06 juillet 2010 - 05:38 .

[Zivos]

More epic ending?  Tough call.

ME1's feels more hopeful, especially if it had been a standalone game. 

ME2's ending has that feeling of dread, but you've felt it ever since Shap and crew began to run back to the Normandy after dealing with the Reaper larva.

I think the truly epic part about both endings is that you -STILL- get a small bit of leeway in final conversations
. 
Choosing a Councilor for humanity (or not), the way you try to warn them of the Reaper threat looming, as well as the final talk with the Illusive Man....after you've said and done every major thing in the game, you can put a final exclamation on it, whether warning about the imminent Reaper invasion or telling Joker to "lose this channel!".

[Wolverfrog]

Mass Effect 1's was much better. It may have been a lot less interactive, but it was brilliant cinematography. And I don't think anyone can say they didn't pump the air with their fist when the Alliance came in to save the day.



Also, Udina's speech at the end was awesome.