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#51
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How do you see Space battles?
You presiding galactic fleet against the Reapers? Mass Effect is not strategy. 
Or as it was in KOTOR, sudden attack fighter vs Normandy?

You want the final battle was under your control?
There are many MMO RPG battles in space, please play if you want.

I think this is complete nonsense - the battle was under your control.

Which fighter on the Normandy? Which control cruisers? Play in the strategy if you want to command armies.

I Hope to offend anyone, but the development of space battles be a waste of resources, I understand that as a developer!

Modifié par Dem_B, 06 juillet 2010 - 10:58 .


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nah, no real time strategy. Just vehicular combat, like the Mako or HH. But in space. Watch the video in the OP.

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I hope not, it doesn't really feel right to walk around in a giant armed mech.

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Boom_Headshot1337 wrote...

I hope not, it doesn't really feel right to walk around in a giant armed mech.


giant armed mech? I don't understand

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Someone please make Homeworld 3 instead or something in its likeness !!!

not any MMORPG like Eve but an honest to goodness Space Single Player Campaign RPG/Strategy with option for Multiplayer.

With up to date eye candies (good graphics)

And an awesome storyline.

and good gameplay.

I wanna put up my space fleet and conquer a star system, as soon as possible.

Modifié par Jet_Truebow, 06 juillet 2010 - 11:16 .


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Okay, when I wrote my first post, i not looking your video links.
Now I looked at your video links.
Perhaps my opinion now is not so critical as the first.

But how do you see these battles? Write details.

I think the outcome of the final battle, must depend on the decisions taken in the ME1 + ME2 + ME3.
The final battle should be the result of history, where perhaps even missed opportunities or bad decisions of ME1 affect the outcome of the battle.

Why do you want gameplay final?
For you Mass Effect is an interesting gameplay or incredible story and an interesting story?

Please Tell me!

Modifié par Dem_B, 07 juillet 2010 - 01:35 .


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Please no Space combat. It just doesn't fit in the current series. It is just completely out of place. Instead of making some lame Space Combat Sim levels, we should get a well thought and written story that comes up with a plan to defeat the Reapers that does not involve attacking the head on. Those are the most advanced vessels in the entire known Galaxy and they come by the thousands, ... I don't think the combined races even have enough Dreadnought's, which are inferior anyway. A fullfledged space battle would be catastrophic and only of use for a distraction (which I would love to actually happen, the forces of those races whose trust you earned blocking a relay to where you are on a critical mission, the big sacrifice for the greater good!).

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Jet_Truebow wrote...

Someone please make Homeworld 3 instead or something in its likeness !!!

not any MMORPG like Eve but an honest to goodness Space Single Player Campaign RPG/Strategy with option for Multiplayer.

With up to date eye candies (good graphics)

And an awesome storyline.

and good gameplay.

I wanna put up my space fleet and conquer a star system, as soon as possible.


That's what I want(Cataclysm is one of my favorite games).  It had the same feel that the first Star Wars movies did; you against unbeatable odds.  Being a lone mining ship in WAY above your head and slowly advancing was awesome.  That's why I always advocate ME3 having you start out in space battles "Picard" style where you can damage pirates, mercs, and the like and board them to loot/take them over.  Once you amass a small fleet, it would be cool to make it be like Homeworld.

I'm pretty sure I put a lot more of my ideas in the huge "wishlist" thread.  I'm glad others feel sort of the way I do.

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Casey Hudson said there will be space combat in one of the games in the trilogy. So there WILL be space combat in ME3.

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TheBabeLover wrote...

Casey Hudson said there will be space combat in one of the games in the trilogy. So there WILL be space combat in ME3.


Reallly? Do you remember when/what interview? I have no recollection of that.

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I liked the idea someone posted about the battle being purely cinematic, with Sheppard giving commands at the CIC. That would make for some cool gameplay IMO

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TheBabeLover wrote...

Casey Hudson said there will be space combat in one of the games in the trilogy. So there WILL be space combat in ME3.


We already had lot's of space-combat. Sovereign vs Citadel and Alliance for instance, or Collectors vs Normandy and vice versa. Who said we are going to actively control said situations?

Other than that, why do you think it has to be vehicel-based combat? Maybe he simply meant you, a space suit, and the outer hull of a random ship floating in free space, analogous to the Citadel sequence after the elevator?

And I want a link to that interview where he said that.

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who knows? it may happen. Vehicles certainly are currently the weak link in the ME universe chain, but at the same time, Mass Effect 2 seemed weaker without some other gameplay mechanics to support the shooting.



I think when they're done right, vehicles make the experience all the richer. So bring on space combat i say. Just make sure you get a team to really focus on improving the vehicular gameplay!

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The Casy Hudson interview about space combat for the people who wanted to know:

Here at 03:30.

And here, for the people who just want to read.

Modifié par TheBabeLover, 09 juillet 2010 - 05:57 .


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mattahraw wrote...

Sursion wrote...

mattahraw wrote...

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The only space combat I want to see is in cinematics. This is a RPG and a Shooter, not a space battle simulation game.


I gotta disagree, vehicles were a huge part of ME1, they're a large part of ME2's DLC and they're more than likely going to be back in the main plot for ME3 based on recent interviews about overlord.


The vehicles are fine. But piloting an entire ship in a battle? I dunno. Just breaks the game in my opinion. It steps too far from what a shooter/rpg should be. The Normandy is a lot different then the Mako or Hammerhead.


Yes, but as i said earlier, it'd be a fighter launched from the normandy, ala the mako or hammerhead. Not piloting the normandy itself. That's joker's job.


Three words: GARDIAN DEFENCE GRID

One fighter would do jack diddly squat against a reaper...

edit: and the Casey Hudson interview never explicitly stated there will be space combat, it said they were hoping to have it in the trilogy. Space Combat can mean alot of different things as well and alot of people seem to connect it to the most improbable things they can think of.

Modifié par Nizzemancer, 09 juillet 2010 - 07:04 .


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TheBabeLover wrote...

The Casy Hudson interview about space combat for the people who wanted to know:

Here at 03:30.

And here, for the people who just want to read.


Nice find! Looks like we may be in luck come mass effect 3, if time and budget allow! Yay!

Modifié par mattahraw, 09 juillet 2010 - 10:40 .


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mattahraw wrote...



This new Halo:Reach video has me hankering for some Space Combat in ME3. Think of the possibilities!

I mean, the Reapers are very very large, it seems improbable that 1 man can take them all down via 3rd person shooting. A bit of space action seems very probable. Give us a fighter on board the normandy!

You could use the fighter above planets on escort missions, defense missions and offense missions... It'd be awesome.

It'd also be a great excuse to bring back all those awesome sky boxes that the UNC planets had in ME1. They were beautiful. Even though i didn't miss the empty planets, I did miss the views.

If that can't happen then at least give us a turret on the normandy so we can participate in the battles a little bit!

Basically, there's going to be space battle action in ME3, the story requires it. So rather than it all being cutscenes, let us participate!

Thoughts?


Wohaaa this remembers me of playing x-wing vs tie-fighter :D

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Michel1986 wrote...

mattahraw wrote...



This new Halo:Reach video has me hankering for some Space Combat in ME3. Think of the possibilities!

I mean, the Reapers are very very large, it seems improbable that 1 man can take them all down via 3rd person shooting. A bit of space action seems very probable. Give us a fighter on board the normandy!

You could use the fighter above planets on escort missions, defense missions and offense missions... It'd be awesome.

It'd also be a great excuse to bring back all those awesome sky boxes that the UNC planets had in ME1. They were beautiful. Even though i didn't miss the empty planets, I did miss the views.

If that can't happen then at least give us a turret on the normandy so we can participate in the battles a little bit!

Basically, there's going to be space battle action in ME3, the story requires it. So rather than it all being cutscenes, let us participate!

Thoughts?


Wohaaa this remembers me of playing x-wing vs tie-fighter :D


loved that game!

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Nizzemancer wrote...

Three words: GARDIAN DEFENCE GRID

One fighter would do jack diddly squat against a reaper...


Pssh, like Codex Lore has ever stopped gameplay changes before? All you gotta do is have a Gardian Jamming system installed. Or make it a state of the art stealth fighter. Or yadda yadda yadda, etc. You could come up with a million reasons to make that redundant.

and One fighter may do diddly against a reaper, but could be very handy for getting 20 occulus off the Normandy's back.

Modifié par mattahraw, 09 juillet 2010 - 11:46 .


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Shepard shouldn't be flying a fighter or shooting from a turret while the ship he is actually in command of is in combat. If a fighter were going to be added for some exploration/ N7 missions that might be cool but I would prefer for them to focus on other things.

I would love to make some tactical decisions in a big space battle though. I wouldn't be surprised if ME3 ends up a bit like Dragon Age (not a bad thing)-- convincing various races like the Quarians and the Geth to unite against the Reapers and then ending in an enormous space battle.

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I think any space combat should be handled more like Homeworld and less like Freespace

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This, but in the mass effect universe. Oh lord:


Modifié par mattahraw, 10 juillet 2010 - 05:48 .


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of course there will be space combat. I don't think that Shepard will control a fighter like Luke in star wars. I'm sure we will be allowed to command Normandy or some fighter ship. But still it might be Normandy since that cannon upgrade in ME2. That was badass upgrade. Normandy is not suited for battles but it still can kickass. There should be Migrant fleet and Citadel forces + Normandy vs reapers. We still don't know what is Cerberus role in it but Shepard will probably fight them 2.

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Who doesn't like huge space battles??? i dout they will let us fly the normandy but i think maybe a fighter, for example you and a sqaudron clearing a path to a reaper ship then boarding the reaper.

cue crazy idea take portalbe AI designed to hack the reaper, which gives us the reaper ship to control lol, then shepard can shout 'fire the main guns' again. cue 5 or 6 'freaking lazers' and we just turnt the battle around.....achievement unlocked 'where do i park this thing' :D

Modifié par silverfoxIII, 10 juillet 2010 - 08:17 .


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silverfoxIII wrote...
achievement unlocked 'where do i park this thing' :D


lol nice one.