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People complain about "The Terminator", and while I'd normally call you all a bunch of stupid whiners then go drink chocolate milk....


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Lemonwizard

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I have got to say, I'm not a big fan of it either. Not because "zomg it looks lame" or all the other typical whiner reasons that exacerbate my chocolate milk desire, no. Anybody who complains about that needs to stow it and find something better to complain about. People who call BS on the science part of it I respect and agree with, but that's not what this topic is about.



The problem with the revelation of the human reaper is it completely kills the "ultimate evil" status of the reapers. See, now instead of killing all of us, they're turning us into badass immortal superpowered spaceships who rule the universe! All of a sudden, they go from "horrible evil destroying everything we know and love", to "Actually, that wouldn't be half bad!".



And alright, sure, their method of going about it isn't super friendly and I'd appreciate being given a choice and all that jazz, blah blah, but any "ends justify the means" type Shepard with a Renegade streak would be a hypocrite to fault the reapers for that.



So I ask the question, what now? Where will we get the tension back from in ME3? Why is it bad if the Reapers win? This needs to be re-established, and it needs to be re-established pretty damn quick in ME3's main plot if we want to really empathize with this struggle.

Modifié par Lemonwizard, 04 juillet 2010 - 03:22 .


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Well if you value individuality and a culture then you won't want to be a Reaper.

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Idk about you, but I don't think being turned into reaper slushie is necessarily a good thing

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Shandepared wrote...

Well if you value individuality and a culture then you won't want to be a Reaper.




Overrated garbage.

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I know a delightful group of people you need to talk to.


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Well, we don't know the complete story yet. If Reapers are made of entire species, why are they inherently evil? POV or something more sinister yet to be revealed?

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Even if you guys think being a reaper would really, really suck, you at least have to admit it's better than being a corpse.

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I think I'd be pretty evil if I was grafted together with people I may hate. I can't imagine how hard it would be to form a geth like consensus if I had people like Udina constantly going against everything i'm trying to do.  Man, that would suck

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Lemonwizard wrote...

Even if you guys think being a reaper would really, really suck, you at least have to admit it's better than being a corpse.

I don't know, have you asked any Reapers or corpses how they felt lately?

:happy:

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Lemonwizard wrote...

People who call BS on the science part of it I respect and agree with


Wait a minute. You're telling me you can't actually create a sentient 200 foot tall robot that shoots lasers? Lol whatever dude! Everything in a video game can also happen in real life, duh!

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Lemonwizard wrote...

Overrated garbage.


You have a point. However do we seriously want to incorporate Lady Gaga fans into the glorious machine future? I think we should be more selective about who gets turned into a slushy.

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santaclausemoreau wrote...

I think I'd be pretty evil if I was grafted together with people I may hate. I can't imagine how hard it would be to form a geth like consensus if I had people like Udina constantly going against everything i'm trying to do.  Man, that would suck


"We are building a consen--UDINA! STFU!!"

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Nope, I'm thinking it would be worse to be a reaper, than dead.

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Shandepared wrote...

Lemonwizard wrote...

Overrated garbage.


You have a point. However do we seriously want to incorporate Lady Gaga fans into the glorious machine future? I think we should be more selective about who gets turned into a slushy.




WEll, I think Lady Gaga would be an appropriate part of the Human reaper, considering the above stated point discussing being fused together with people we can't stand like Udina....We really would be caught in a bad romance.



Also, I mean, come on....Shepard can't read Sovereign's poker face. Like, at all.

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I think when the time comes I'll disintegrate myself.

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Lemonwizard wrote...

Shandepared wrote...

Lemonwizard wrote...

Overrated garbage.


You have a point. However do we seriously want to incorporate Lady Gaga fans into the glorious machine future? I think we should be more selective about who gets turned into a slushy.




WEll, I think Lady Gaga would be an appropriate part of the Human reaper, considering the above stated point discussing being fused together with people we can't stand like Udina....We really would be caught in a bad romance.



Also, I mean, come on....Shepard can't read Sovereign's poker face. Like, at all.

He was able to read Tali's Skyllian-Five Poker Face.

However, Legion cannot.

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I'm also concerned about this chocolate milk business. How do we know that Lemonwizard is not, in fact, a reaper trying to deceive us so he can then drink our genetic "chocolate milk?"

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There's nothing wrong with the Gaga. It's the Justin Bieber fans we need to be very very very afraid of.

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santaclausemoreau wrote...

I'm also concerned about this chocolate milk business. How do we know that Lemonwizard is not, in fact, a reaper trying to deceive us so he can then drink our genetic "chocolate milk?"





No, this is not the case. Chocolate milk is the anti-reaper.

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Lemonwizard wrote...

Even if you guys think being a reaper would really, really suck, you at least have to admit it's better than being a corpse.


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Well.... finally another one who is willing to follow my footsteps :lol:. But, do you have a gun brother? Because you will need it to shoot yourself at the end...

Modifié par snfonseka, 04 juillet 2010 - 04:27 .


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Lemonwizard

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Saren was too easily manipulated by Commander Shepard.

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Who needs to research how to counteract the effects of reaper indoctrination when we could simply use the power of Commander Shepard's persuasion?

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We need a better sense of what's at stake. That the galaxy - the entire galaxy - not just humans - is under threat of the Reapers and yes, the Reapers are taking victims already. The Reapers need to be shown as competent, rather than being effortlessly compelled by one person (Shepard). And make Harbinger less of a joke. I cannot take that guy seriously. (inb4 harbinger jokes)

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The Grey Ranger wrote...

Nope, I'm thinking it would be worse to be a reaper, than dead.


Don't we sopouse to be dead to be part Reaper?

This thread is epic fail.

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snfonseka wrote...

Lemonwizard wrote...

Even if you guys think being a reaper would really, really suck, you at least have to admit it's better than being a corpse.


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Well.... finally another one who is willing to follow my footsteps :lol:. But, do you have a gun brother? Because you will need it to shoot yourself at the end...


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