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[Whatever Works]

Milk is the drink of Communists

[InvaderErl]

I have a Hitler milk pic but if I post it I wager I shall be banned.



So just imagine the lolz.

[SnakeHelah]

Hey isn't milk the drink of Cowboys? Wild west milking anyone?

[Whatever Works]

ANd what are Cowboys?



Gigantic Communist sympathizers.

[Christmas Ape]

InvaderErl wrote...

I have a Hitler milk pic but if I post it I wager I shall be banned.

So just imagine the lolz.

This forum has some...marginally messed-up rules at times.
Make it a habit to threadcrap? All good.
Are aware that Germany existed during the latter part of the 1930's and early 1940's? CANNOT BE PERMITTED.

[ObserverStatus]

Being part of a giant Terminator wouldn't be so fun when giant Sarah Connor comes to get me.

[Whatever Works]

Its alright we already godwinned one thread, might as well do this one as well

[Christmas Ape]

bobobo878 wrote...

Being part of a giant Terminator wouldn't be so fun when giant Sarah Connor comes to get me.

I don't know, giant Sarah Connor doesn't sound so bad...

[Whatever Works]

bobobo878 wrote...

Being part of a giant Terminator wouldn't be so fun when giant Sarah Connor comes to get me.

Lies Giant Michael Biehn will come get your ass

[InvaderErl]

Hicks vs Kyle Reese, who wins?!

[Whatever Works]

Hicks wins, after all he lives.

[InvaderErl]

Ah yes but Hicks dies from debris, Kyle Reese blew up a Terminator.

[Whatever Works]

Complete and utter fabrications!

[awpdevil]

Maybe I am crazy, but once your turned into goo, or shot, or run over by a car, your dead. I fail to see why becoming part of a reaper would be better then fighting them off to save trillions.

This is just speculation, but I see the organic side of a reaper more as a fuel then anything else. Like legion said, reapers seem to essentially be what they would like to eventually attain. One will, many minds/programs. Only their version didn't seem to need organic material. He didn't mention the need anyway...

The reason I tend to lean toward the fuel thought is because of what doctor chakwas mentioned after rescuing her. She said the colonists had been melted down into some grey colored goo. The goo we saw going into the reaper fight was orange. So maybe they have found a way to convert the energy from our bodies into a source of fuel? Heck, even joker joked about becoming an organic battery. This concept was also used in the matrix as well. But the difference there was using live humans, not melting them down.

As for the other arguement going on here. I can agree with both criticizing and defending the game. I love the game. But that doesn't mean I don't get irritated by some of the writing. There are obvious holes that I do not discuss here. I discuss them with a friend to try and work out something logical. That is not always possible, but at least we try.

I also tend to believe the change in writers may have caused this inadvertently. If you have two different people writing on the same topic, there will be differences in the way things are explained. They should have stuck with the original guy who wrote the story.

One last note. I half expected the arguement between ecael and smud to turn into one of those scenes you see in movies/shows where a couple is arguing, and all the sudden one of them gets turned on, and jumps the others bones lol.

[Whatever Works]

No, I get way more pissed off than both of them could possibly imagine. It would be like they are both Bridget Fonda and I am Robert DeNiro

[Ecael]

awpdevil wrote...

Maybe I am crazy, but once your turned into goo, or shot, or run over by a car, your dead. I fail to see why becoming part of a reaper would be better then fighting them off to save trillions.

This is just speculation, but I see the organic side of a reaper more as a fuel then anything else. Like legion said, reapers seem to essentially be what they would like to eventually attain. One will, many minds/programs. Only their version didn't seem to need organic material. He didn't mention the need anyway...

The reason I tend to lean toward the fuel thought is because of what doctor chakwas mentioned after rescuing her. She said the colonists had been melted down into some grey colored goo. The goo we saw going into the reaper fight was orange. So maybe they have found a way to convert the energy from our bodies into a source of fuel? Heck, even joker joked about becoming an organic battery. This concept was also used in the matrix as well. But the difference there was using live humans, not melting them down.

Wow, you actually got it on-topic again.

:happy:

You make a good point, though - whatever weapon the Human Reaper was using wasn't any kind of Thanix Cannon that we saw before. I do believe that the humans were used for some other experiment while they were alive though (or at least some of them) - otherwise they would have been processed to goo immediately after being captured.

As for the other arguement going on here. I can agree with both criticizing and defending the game. I love the game. But that doesn't mean I don't get irritated by some of the writing. There are obvious holes that I do not discuss here. I discuss them with a friend to try and work out something logical. That is not always possible, but at least we try.

I also tend to believe the change in writers may have caused this inadvertently. If you have two different people writing on the same topic, there will be differences in the way things are explained. They should have stuck with the original guy who wrote the story.

I get irritated with the writing of Jacob's romance, but I avoid the love interests anyway since they're far too short to be considered romances (that applies to both ME1 and ME2). BioWare doesn't place much emphasis on them, which is understandable.

One last note. I half expected the arguement between ecael and smud to turn into one of those scenes you see in movies/shows where a couple is arguing, and all the sudden one of them gets turned on, and jumps the others bones lol.

You know, I think someone made the same comment the last time we were arguing...

[Tooneyman]

[quote]As for the other arguement going on here. I can agree with both criticizing and defending the game. I love the game. But that doesn't mean I don't get irritated by some of the writing. There are obvious holes that I do not discuss here. I discuss them with a friend to try and work out something logical. That is not always possible, but at least we try.

I also tend to believe the change in writers may have caused this inadvertently. If you have two different people writing on the same topic, there will be differences in the way things are explained. They should have stuck with the original guy who wrote the story.[/quote]
I get irritated with the writing of Jacob's romance, but I avoid the love interests anyway since they're far too short to be considered romances (that applies to both ME1 and ME2). BioWare doesn't place much emphasis on them, which is understandable.
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This I'm going to disagree with you. They put a very important part on the romance from ME 1 and ME 2. They wouldn't have made such bold claims about people cheating in the interviews and such high topics on the threads. They wouldn't have said they would have been watching for the cheaters. They did put these in high regards. Its definitely in the top five category. They just were more focused on game play mechanics for ME 2.

Modifié par Tooneyman, 05 juillet 2010 - 09:36 .

[Lemonwizard]

Whatever Works wrote...

This always happens to Lemonwizards threads, I recall when his fanbase thread got derailed by a Liara fan trolling Tali. God that guy was a moron.

Ah yes, good times. People turning a satirical thread into the very thread it's satirizing.

[Ecael]

Tooneyman wrote...

This I'm going to disagree with you. They put a very important part on the romance from ME 1 and ME 2. They wouldn't have made such bold claims about people cheating in the interviews and such high topics on the threads. They wouldn't have said they would have been watching for the cheaters. They did put these in high regards. Its definitely in the top five category. They just were more focused on game play mechanics for ME 2.

They do consider it to be an important part, but it doesn't really affect the main story. I would be in favor of making the romances influence the story in some way, but right now they're more of an add-on.

It also needs more dialogue as well.

[awpdevil]

I agree, the romance parts sort of remind me of Shep's comment to Aria. "One scan and were straight to business?" Two conversations and they're locked at the hips?

Modifié par awpdevil, 05 juillet 2010 - 09:45 .

[fivefingaslap18]

Three conversations and they're locked at the lips (or helmet in Tali's case.)



By the way, I missed the TURTLES! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

[Bluko]

Lemonwizard wrote...
The problem with the revelation of the human reaper is it completely kills the "ultimate evil" status of the reapers. See, now instead of killing all of us, they're turning us into badass immortal superpowered spaceships who rule the universe! All of a sudden, they go from "horrible evil destroying everything we know and love", to "Actually, that wouldn't be half bad!".

Not really. The thing is the Reapers aren't giving us a choice. If the Reapers let us have a choice then there actually wouldn't be anything bad about them at all really. But that's the catch see, the Reapers basically believe their right and everyone else is wrong. If you don't like it well that's too ****ing bad.

I dunno about you, but that's not very nice/good of the Reapers.

Let's compare the machines from the Matrix for example. Sure they let us live as human batteries, but as humans we're forced to live in a digital world. Now see if they actually gave us a choice about deciding whether to play their super cool Real-Life MMO for free or live in the ****ty real world they wouldn't be so bad. Again the problem is they don't at least until the end.

What about the Galactic Empire from Star Wars? What's so bad about them? All they were trying to do was establish law and order in the galaxy. But oh yeah they kind of just killed millions of people simply cause they could with their Death Star. And that Emperor dude liked to shock people a lot. Yeah that's a bit evil I'd say.

I really don't see how the Reapers are any less "evil" now. So instead of just mindlessly killing organics, you know like actual Terminators, they have a valid reason for enslaving/killing us all. At least the Reapers believe they do. In fact they believe they are saving us. Well what a bunch of swell guys! Gee I wanna be a Reaper Slushy and have no will of my own! Plus I'd be stuck along with the minds of my Mom, Ex, and every other douchebag/tool to be alive within my species! Yea awesome!



Look the reality of the universe is that everyone likes to believe they are the "good guys". The truth is what is good/evil is whatever we perceive to be it. It is both the curse and blessing of being sentient being. Our entire lives are spent trying to survive as long as we can, and generally whatever we do to help us survive we rationalize as "good". When other people/things do stuff that makes our survival more difficult we say they are "bad".

Are the Reapers really evil? No not really and they never were. However unless you want to be a Reaper they sure as hell still seem pretty bad to me.

[Zulu_DFA]

Lemonwizard wrote...

The problem with the revelation of the human reaper is it completely kills the "ultimate evil" status of the reapers. See, now instead of killing all of us, they're turning us into badass immortal superpowered spaceships who rule the universe! All of a sudden, they go from "horrible evil destroying everything we know and love", to "Actually, that wouldn't be half bad!".

And alright, sure, their method of going about it isn't super friendly and I'd appreciate being given a choice and all that jazz, blah blah, but any "ends justify the means" type Shepard with a Renegade streak would be a hypocrite to fault the reapers for that.

For the Renegade it would be hypocrisy to fault the Reapers for anything. The reason the Renegade fights the Reapers is not because they are at fault. It's because they are against us. They are not the ultimate evil (good and evil do not exist for the Renegade), but they are the ultimate enemy.

In the Reapers' "salvation through destruction" plan for the Humanity, all that matters is the "desctruction" part and the "salvation" (or "acsention") part does not make it even a wee bit more acceptable.

[SithLordExarKun]

smudboy wrote...


Because everything you write is awesome, so naturally when you turn your genius brain against me, I can only assume you'd bother to do so to shovel the dregs of your awesome, my way.  I can only hope to deem the vapors of said mental fortitude in the hopes my petty insignificant and clearly fragile argument is not shattered into the already destroyed life I lead, which is already in shambles.

Also, you have a big ****.

I am so honored to receive your praise :innocent: No really, i feel somewhat invincible.

smudboy wrote...
Why should ME3 conclude anything, let alone everything?

  The real question is, why should it not answer everything? The first game didn't. The second game didn't, so why should the third not answer the questions?

smudboy wrote...
What makes you say that?  Every answer will be explained?  Cause there's a 3 in there?  Cause it's the end of a trilogy?  ME2 proved that BioWare can do wtf it wants.  And if ME2 was a success, why not repeat it?  Shepard will just shoot something at the end with his gun.

  Do you think every mystery is answered at the very beginning of the trilogy or in the middle? Or does usually the end conclude everything?  You are being incredibly pessimistic here.

smudboy wrote...
I expect things to make sense.  If you can make sense of them, then that goes to show you just how unbelievably genius you are.  I say you are the blessed Reaper, and I the lowly human, amidst a sea of slushy confusion and questions.  I cannot dare to swim against the torrent that is your vast, infinitely superior mind.

  First, its a video game which you are taking things far too seriously. Hell there are hundreds of games and movies out there that don't even make the least  bit of sense. You know, bioshock, star wars, the alien trilogy, the terminator franchise, transformers, the dark knight. Oh hell the list goes on and on, since your such an awesome intellect, why don't you make a 60 minute video analysis of every single piece of literature out there?

I'm sorry, but there are many great movies and games out there than don't make sense to you if your sole expectation is for every single thing to make sense.

smudboy wrote...
There is plenty of fun to be had in good writing.  If you do not know the difference, well, this is but a testament to what mere mortals call ignorance and stupidity.

Oh I'm pretty sure they had great fun in writing ME2.

smudboy wrote...
No, I expect the super Reaper Overmind God Sufficiently Adavnced Alien species thingies to get some exposition.  Not "ASSUMING DIRECT PLOT CONTROL TO AMBIGUOUSNESS, OH LOOK I'M A HOLOGRAM."

Right, so you would rather have answers spood fed to your mouth than actually try to think and make sense of something.

[SithLordExarKun]

smudboy wrote...


Thanks but I'm on a ME2 forum and that's enough time for me.  I critique everything I come across.  I'm talking toothpicks.  To say otherwise is a poor deduction on your half.  Yes, I have logical deductive thinking skills in things aside from ME2.

Some life you must have...