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[AntiChri5]

@Whatever: I meant to say Samara.

[AntiChri5]

@Whatever: The post above yours was adressed at Nick.



I swear, if there is another post by the time im done writing this i am going to kill a kitten.

[Zulu_DFA]

smudboy wrote...

This was one huge problem with the choice between the two: why?

She abhors Samara's high-heel outfit. That bought her a ticket to ME3 in my case.

[Blackveldt]

AntiChri5 wrote...

@Blackveldt: When Shep kills Morinth. He is very vulnerable. Alone, unarmed, unshielded.

I was referring more to your argument concerning Morinth catching Shepard outside of this particular scenario.  However, now that you've mentioned it, one could argue that Shepard is not as vulnerable as you may believe her/him to be.  It is more like the events that take place on the Purgatory--Shepard is absolutely unwilling to go in unarmed (despite the relatively reasonable no-firearm request) and without backup.  Just like at Purgatory, Shepard is unwilling to go in 'unarmed,' so to speak; Samara is Shepard's weapon and backup, if you will--just simply better concealed.  And the Commander is resourceful, astute and influential enough to know that s/he can trust Samara.

[AntiChri5]

I meant when Shep kills Samara.



He/she kills his "weapon"



And, sooner or later, Shep will be even more vulnerable. Shep needs to eat, needs to sleep. All she has to do is dominate Rupert, get him to slip some Halex into Shepards Gumbo. Or just wait untill Shep visits Kasumi and gets drunk. No one can remain constantly vigilant. Everyone slips up eventually.



Besides which, she may have more success doing it very very slowly and very very gradually.

[fivefingaslap18]

AntiChri5 wrote...

I meant when Shep kills Samara.

He/she kills his "weapon"

And, sooner or later, Shep will be even more vulnerable. Shep needs to eat, needs to sleep. All she has to do is dominate Rupert, get him to slip some Halex into Shepards Gumbo. Or just wait untill Shep visits Kasumi and gets drunk. No one can remain constantly vigilant. Everyone slips up eventually.

Besides which, she may have more success doing it very very slowly and very very gradually.

That's why, you eat all of Gardner's food. He poisons it anyway which means you get a tolerance for it. Even whatever Morinth would have him put in it would eventually not kill Shepard. Shep's been drunk in front of Kasumi before because Shep's a lightweight with all of that strong muscular physique...

Shepard can come back from a suicide mission, have six pack abs, and after a drink become tipsy? Call me when Reality of Fantasy comes out. I hope Shepard doesn't get killed by some little kids on the extranet, otherwise I will have to say Shepard's a ****.

[Blackveldt]

AntiChri5 wrote...

I meant when Shep kills Samara. . . *snip*

Ah, I see.  Well, that's just ridiculous imo.  In any case, Shepard realizes that Morinth is too intrigued to do anything rash.  Still not the smartest choice, as it is rather needlessly evil and does nothing to further the mission.  This is the reason I cannot be a full-on Renegade, as Shepard is not only a bigot (making her/him appear ignorant and idiotic), but rather takes on the demeanor of a brute instead of an influential leader.

Assuming, however, that Shepard does kill Samara, again, it is reasonable to assume that the Commander is smart enough to be on guard when dealing with Morinth.  Morinth herself must also sleep and eat.  And her condition (and inability to control it) requires that she not only kill more innocents, but mate with Shepard in this way due to her increased strength in performing the act and personal obsession with the Commander (also a weakness).  The moment Shepard may suspect something ill of Morinth (despite silent/stealthy assassination not being a part of Morinth's MO) . . . well, I will just say that I would be more afraid of the Commander, considering his/her previous Renegade actions. 

You do have a very interesting take on Morinth.

[Zulu_DFA]

AntiChri5 wrote...

And, sooner or later, Shep will be even more vulnerable. Shep needs to eat, needs to sleep. All she has to do is dominate Rupert, get him to slip some Halex into Shepards Gumbo. Or just wait untill Shep visits Kasumi and gets drunk. No one can remain constantly vigilant. Everyone slips up eventually.

Morinth is not your ordinary vampire. She needs to seduce her victims first. To make them want her, and willingly go for "sex" with her. Otherwise she does not get what she wants. Even if she is capable of killing a person by "raping" (which I doubt, as dominate =/= kill), she won't get her pleasure and won't be able to "absorb the power" of the victim.

So it's up to Shepard: will he allow himself to be seduced or not.

Still, Morinth remains a creepy character, but having her on the team makes a lot more sence than the high heel fashion show outfits.

Shandepared wrote...
Shepard, "Morinth will be more useful to me on my mission..."

Apparently Commander Shepard feels that this does further his mission.

I don't remember Shepard saying "on my mission"...

But it does make sense for the Renegade to have Morinth as a business partner: who knows, maybe she'll be useful as an assassin?

Modifié par Zulu_DFA, 04 juillet 2010 - 09:41 .

[AntiChri5]

Shepard also thinks that drinking through his helmet is fun and he can dance.



Shepard isnt always right.

[JackhammerGR]

Zulu_DFA wrote...

AntiChri5 wrote...

And, sooner or later, Shep will be even more vulnerable. Shep needs to eat, needs to sleep. All she has to do is dominate Rupert, get him to slip some Halex into Shepards Gumbo. Or just wait untill Shep visits Kasumi and gets drunk. No one can remain constantly vigilant. Everyone slips up eventually.

Morinth is not your ordinary vampire. She needs to seduce her victims first. To make them want her, and willingly go for "sex" with her. Otherwise she does not get what she wants. Even if she is capable of killing a person by "raping" (which I doubt, as dominate =/= kill), she won't get her pleasure and won't be able to "absorb the power" of the victim.

So it's up to Shepard: will he allow himself to be seduced or not.

Still, Morinth remains a creepy character, but having her on the team makes a lot more sence than the high heel fashion show outfits.

You figured this out all by yourself huh? What if she is seducing them only because she wants?

[AntiChri5]

Zulu_DFA wrote...

AntiChri5 wrote...

And, sooner or later, Shep will be even more vulnerable. Shep needs to eat, needs to sleep. All she has to do is dominate Rupert, get him to slip some Halex into Shepards Gumbo. Or just wait untill Shep visits Kasumi and gets drunk. No one can remain constantly vigilant. Everyone slips up eventually.

Morinth is not your ordinary vampire. She needs to seduce her victims first. To make them want her, and willingly go for "sex" with her. Otherwise she does not get what she wants. Even if she is capable of killing a person by "raping" (which I doubt, as dominate =/= kill), she won't get her pleasure and won't be able to "absorb the power" of the victim.

So it's up to Shepard: will he allow himself to be seduced or not.

Still, Morinth remains a creepy character, but having her on the team makes a lot more sence than the high heel fashion show outfits.

Which is why my entire point was her engineering a situation where he is too vulnerable to resist her and gets seduced.

[Turran]

Is it me or does anyone else class Morinth and Samara as neither good nor evil? Only one has taken innocent lives yes, but the other brings alot of destruction in her wake aswell. One can't help what she is and doesn't want to live a life on her own, instead she wants to be accepted by her people and the other fights to stop innocent killings and to stop someone being who they are.



Either way each sounds as bad as the other...

[NICKjnp]

AntiChri5 wrote...

Everyone who isnt an extremist or fanatic deserves to die?

Riiiiight.

I will be over there.

With the sane people.

Yep... they do deserve to die... by snu snu.  Paragades are schizos.  In one instant they act nice and another they act without mercy.  They can't decide what they want to be... damn schizos.

[AntiChri5]

The only possible use for Morinth is interrogation.

[Zulu_DFA]

AntiChri5 wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

AntiChri5 wrote...

And, sooner or later, Shep will be even more vulnerable. Shep needs to eat, needs to sleep. All she has to do is dominate Rupert, get him to slip some Halex into Shepards Gumbo. Or just wait untill Shep visits Kasumi and gets drunk. No one can remain constantly vigilant. Everyone slips up eventually.

Morinth is not your ordinary vampire. She needs to seduce her victims first. To make them want her, and willingly go for "sex" with her. Otherwise she does not get what she wants. Even if she is capable of killing a person by "raping" (which I doubt, as dominate =/= kill), she won't get her pleasure and won't be able to "absorb the power" of the victim.

So it's up to Shepard: will he allow himself to be seduced or not.

Still, Morinth remains a creepy character, but having her on the team makes a lot more sence than the high heel fashion show outfits.

Which is why my entire point was her engineering a situation where he is too vulnerable to resist her and gets seduced.

You mean, she is going to... undress?

[AntiChri5]

Zulu_DFA wrote...

AntiChri5 wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

AntiChri5 wrote...

And, sooner or later, Shep will be even more vulnerable. Shep needs to eat, needs to sleep. All she has to do is dominate Rupert, get him to slip some Halex into Shepards Gumbo. Or just wait untill Shep visits Kasumi and gets drunk. No one can remain constantly vigilant. Everyone slips up eventually.

Morinth is not your ordinary vampire. She needs to seduce her victims first. To make them want her, and willingly go for "sex" with her. Otherwise she does not get what she wants. Even if she is capable of killing a person by "raping" (which I doubt, as dominate =/= kill), she won't get her pleasure and won't be able to "absorb the power" of the victim.

So it's up to Shepard: will he allow himself to be seduced or not.

Still, Morinth remains a creepy character, but having her on the team makes a lot more sence than the high heel fashion show outfits.

Which is why my entire point was her engineering a situation where he is too vulnerable to resist her and gets seduced.

You mean, she is going to... undress?

Quite likely.

Among other things.

[Zulu_DFA]

AntiChri5 wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

AntiChri5 wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

AntiChri5 wrote...

And, sooner or later, Shep will be even more vulnerable. Shep needs to eat, needs to sleep. All she has to do is dominate Rupert, get him to slip some Halex into Shepards Gumbo. Or just wait untill Shep visits Kasumi and gets drunk. No one can remain constantly vigilant. Everyone slips up eventually.

Morinth is not your ordinary vampire. She needs to seduce her victims first. To make them want her, and willingly go for "sex" with her. Otherwise she does not get what she wants. Even if she is capable of killing a person by "raping" (which I doubt, as dominate =/= kill), she won't get her pleasure and won't be able to "absorb the power" of the victim.

So it's up to Shepard: will he allow himself to be seduced or not.

Still, Morinth remains a creepy character, but having her on the team makes a lot more sence than the high heel fashion show outfits.

Which is why my entire point was her engineering a situation where he is too vulnerable to resist her and gets seduced.

You mean, she is going to... undress?

Quite likely.

Among other things.

As I said, it's up to Shepard to control his... you know... little friend.

[AntiChri5]

She would kill off Tali first.

[Zulu_DFA]

Shandepared wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...
As I said, it's up to Shepard to control his... you know... little friend.

Now we can all fully understand the importance of a meaningful relationship wiht Tali'Zorah.

WARNING! MASS EFFECT 3 END SPOILER BELOW!!!

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[Zulu_DFA]

AntiChri5 wrote...

She would kill off Tali first.

Doubtful. Tali has less mind than Legion to meld with. Or do you mean target practice?