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[Whatever Works]

InvaderErl wrote...

I'm still upset that the whole Big Bang thing hasn't been sufficiently explained.

The "Time/SPace Continium" theory is just one giant plothole Modern day scientists are throwing on us just for **** with us.  That doesn't even try to make sense. 

[MyKingdomCold]

I'm not sure if this is a plot hole or just something for storytelling expediency:

when you first meet Tali on Freedom's Progress, how would she know you're Shepard if you're wearing a helmet where you can't see the face? Or if you chose different face from ME1?

Same thing with Garrus. Can he really recognize Shepard from just his/her voice?



Also, is Jacob telepathic? When you first meet Jacob, he says, "Shepard?" even before he sees you in his peripheral vision. I hid behind the wall and he still says that. I know the dialogue is scripted to move at certain points.

[InvaderErl]

Whatever Works wrote...

InvaderErl wrote...

I'm still upset that the whole Big Bang thing hasn't been sufficiently explained.

The "Time/SPace Continium" theory is just one giant plothole Modern day scientists are throwing on us just for **** with us.  That doesn't even try to make sense. 

The universe was better back before it became all mainstream.

[Whatever Works]

InvaderErl wrote...

Whatever Works wrote...

InvaderErl wrote...

I'm still upset that the whole Big Bang thing hasn't been sufficiently explained.

The "Time/SPace Continium" theory is just one giant plothole Modern day scientists are throwing on us just for **** with us.  That doesn't even try to make sense. 

The universe was better back before it became all mainstream.

Yeah I know what you mean, it seems like they are dumbing it down for the casuals and there is a significant lack to the scope it once had

[InvaderErl]

I'm still upset that they removed so many of the deities. Now we've only got a few left.

[Whatever Works]

It was all downhill since they said the Earth isn' tthe center of the Universe. First they took away our gods, then our place and now our time! All without proper explanation!

[Jackal904]

smudboy wrote...

Jackal904 wrote...

smudboy wrote...

BlackyBlack wrote...

Again, READ THE ANTI PLOT HOLE THREAD TO SEE THAT THERE JUST AS MANY PLOT HOLES IN ME1

The majority of those by Ecael were nitpicks, and most of them aren't even plot holes.  Not saying there isn't, but definitely not on the scale of ME2.

You of all people are complaining about somebody nitpicking? Hypocritical much?

I'm not complaining: I am making an observation, in both cases.

English much?  Didn't think so.

lolwut? Seriously stop posting. You're embarrasing yourself.

[BlackyBlack]

Remember kids, if you say it it's not nitpicking and is always the right choice, if someone disagrees he's a troll and knows nothing

Modifié par BlackyBlack, 05 juillet 2010 - 09:38 .

[Sesshomaru47]

The planet where Jacobs father is a plot hole. They have modern mechs and thermal clips despite having been marooned there for 10 years...

[IoCaster]

Sursion wrote...

IoCaster wrote...

Kronner wrote...

smudboy wrote...

Jackal904 wrote...

A lot of those things we won't know until ME3, which is the whole point...

I too, believe ME2 has no point.

But about Mordin getting that seeker swarms, TIM tells you that they got some "samples" from Freedom's Progress for Mordin to use. It's easily missed.

Even though the Collectors never leave a trace.  This makes perfect sense.

Did you miss Veetor's data?<_<

Did you miss the assertion by Miranda, Jacob and TIM that someone has been abducting colonists for two years with no clues or evidence left on the scene? Isn't it a contrived wonderful coincidence that Shepard manages to find a live witness, video tape footage, omni-tool data and swarm samples on his/her very first investigation? What a marvelous stroke of luck!

Obviously, I'm being a bit facetious and I can certainly understand why BioWare did it, but it's still a legitimate nitpick.

The seekers are robots. It makes sense that given Veetors data, Mordin made one himself.

I know that I said it was a nitpick and I'm not particularly put off by it. I will respond to you though because there's a bit of misunderstanding here, I think.

Granted that Mordin is a 'genius', but we would have to assume that the omni-tool data that Veetor provided had some very detailed technical schematics and programming information. Not to mention the heretofore, unknown to Mordin, mechanism by which these miniature robots created and maintained a stasis field. I'm not prepared to leap off of that precipice of presumption with you. I'd prefer to assume that Cerberus provided Mordin with a working specimen that he reverse-engineered.

In any case, it's certainly providential that Freedoms Progress was such a treasure trove of useful data and evidence. After two years of human colonists disappearing without a trace, Shepard arrives on the scene and reveals all. Cerberus gets an almost instant return on their Lazarus investment strategy.

[Whatever Works]

Its gotta happen sometime. I mean I wouldn't call Alexander's defeat a Plot Hole

[IoCaster]

Whatever Works wrote...

Its gotta happen sometime. I mean I wouldn't call Alexander's defeat a Plot Hole

I'm not sure if you're replying to my post, so correct me if I'm wrong. I wouldn't refer to lucky Shep getting the goods at FP as a plot hole. It's a simple contrivance and doesn't really bother me much at all. There are plenty of actual plot holes in ME2 that I think are much more interesting "grist for the mill". 

Modifié par IoCaster, 05 juillet 2010 - 10:23 .

[InvaderErl]

Veetor is the reason anything was salvageable, so structually it holds up from a plot point of view.

Obviously it wouldn't be fun to visit a dozen or so colonies and find nothing of note.

Modifié par InvaderErl, 05 juillet 2010 - 10:28 .

[Whatever Works]

Actually it would have been better if you had visited a couple derelict ones before getting lucky. But that would kill the pacing of the game

[smudboy]

Jackal904 wrote...

smudboy wrote...

Jackal904 wrote...

smudboy wrote...

BlackyBlack wrote...

Again, READ THE ANTI PLOT HOLE THREAD TO SEE THAT THERE JUST AS MANY PLOT HOLES IN ME1

The majority of those by Ecael were nitpicks, and most of them aren't even plot holes.  Not saying there isn't, but definitely not on the scale of ME2.

You of all people are complaining about somebody nitpicking? Hypocritical much?

I'm not complaining: I am making an observation, in both cases.

English much?  Didn't think so.

lolwut? Seriously stop posting. You're embarrasing yourself.

The feeling is mutual.  Please keep posting.  I find it most entertaining.

[Whatever Works]

LIsten attention ****, get the **** out

[Onyx Jaguar]

This thread is legendary thread material

[NICKjnp]

To the complainers... oh no... plot hole!   If you dislike ME2 so much then don't play the game or ME3.

[Onyx Jaguar]

NICKjnp wrote...

To the complainers... oh no... plot hole!   If you dislike ME2 so much then don't play the game or ME3.

But I love me some Plot Holes =(

[NICKjnp]

That was mostly for the people who continually complain about plot holes and how the game is awful... blah... blah... blah.  If they dislike it so much then they don't have to play it.

Modifié par NICKjnp, 05 juillet 2010 - 11:03 .

[BatarianBob]

Sesshomaru47 wrote...

The planet where Jacobs father is a plot hole. They have modern mechs and thermal clips despite having been marooned there for 10 years...

Being new to the audience doesn't necessarily mean something is new within the fictional setting.

None of the dialogue says when mechs were first created.  The codex might, but the codexes (codices?) in both games are riddled with mistakes, so it's best not to take them too seriously.

[ADLegend21]

THE 2 in Mass effect 2 is a plot hole, DAMN YOU BIOWARE!!!!!!....

[RyuGuitarFreak]

This plot hole thread is asking about plot holes on a plot hole pointless game full of plot holes? Plot hole.



Wait, what?

[Ksandor]

Whatever Works wrote...

InvaderErl wrote...

Whatever Works wrote...

InvaderErl wrote...

I'm still upset that the whole Big Bang thing hasn't been sufficiently explained.

The "Time/SPace Continium" theory is just one giant plothole Modern day scientists are throwing on us just for **** with us.  That doesn't even try to make sense. 

The universe was better back before it became all mainstream.

Yeah I know what you mean, it seems like they are dumbing it down for the casuals and there is a significant lack to the scope it once had

Agreed with the last sentence in the sense that ME1 plot was better. They are dumbing it down and if you can't see it then we have no informed audience to force Bioware to improve their products and keep them from degenerating to the stupid mainstream Hollywood crap. Of course some of you interpret my words in the way they want but I repeat, I like ME2 but I wish more questions were answered and some of them were obvious. Nobody has right to tell me not to play the game if I don't like it. Because first I like it and second it is my right to decide whether to play it or not. Nobody asking how Shepard uses toilet. I asked the name of Miranda's father and who hired Wilson to betray Cerberus ect. These are legitimate questions. I can safely say that if you are not bothered with these kind of questions when watching movies or reading books or playing games your approach is superficial, not a bad thing since this is only a game but I like more details and cannot be so superficial --preferences. Maybe some of them are not plotholes but I still think they should have answered them. And if you think they will explain these in ME3 you are sorely mistaken. The standard attitude is to forget unanswered questions. Just watch to see if they revisit unaswered questions in Hollywood trilogies.

Modifié par Ksandor, 06 juillet 2010 - 11:17 .

[Onyx Jaguar]

You agree that the Time/Space Continuum makes no sense and is in fact nonsense?