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[EricaCousland]

There seems to be inconsistency between what Leliana says in Origins and what happens in her songs. I need clarification so thatI know I haven't misunderstood something along the way.

From whatI remember, Leliana tells you that she finds the papers on the body of a target given to her by Marjolaine. She opens the documents, finds out it has to do with how M is sending information about Orlais to other countries. In Leliana's Song, however, Leliana goes into the Arl of Denerim's estate and leaves them on the desk.

I seem to remember Leliana saying or suggesting that she was tortured by the Orlesians; a traitor's punishment. But in the Song, it's this Commander chappie.


Have I got this wrong or is she a gigantic fibber even after leaving 'the Game' for the chantry?


As a side note, I found this DLC to be quite interesting at first, but then it felt kind of rushed. You know, when you chase after the Commander and Marjolaine. I was sort of like "Hi guards *kill* hello Dragon *kill* off you pop Commander *kill*. Ho hum." I don't know, I'd have liked a better hunt for them.

Modifié par EricaCousland, 06 juillet 2010 - 01:12 .

[Arrtis]

She got the documents and returned them to marjolaine then later the guards captured her and gave her a traitors punishment.She then used her skills to escape to ferelden and lived in the chantry.

[EricaCousland]

She's an absolute liar then, since this is not what happens in the DLC.

At least I can tell myself she lied, unlike with some of the issues of consistency you can get importing a character from Origins to Awakening.



I like my stories to make sense... :C

[Arrtis]

Ya do not get it.

Was there any codex that might give clues?

[EricaCousland]

The codex more or less embellished on the DLC's plot. The Commander wanted his lands taken back from the Orlesians or something and didn't trust them, wanting to disrupt the peace between them and Ferelden.

Marjolaine said that they were planting papers with information on mistresses in a noble's bedroom, so as to embarrass them. Leliana obviously gets nosey when she notices the Orlesian seal whilst putting them on the desk and confronts Marjolaine after they escape the estate.

[Lara Denton]

EricaCousland wrote...

She's an absolute liar then, since this is not what happens in the DLC.
At least I can tell myself she lied, unlike with some of the issues of consistency you can get importing a character from Origins to Awakening.

I like my stories to make sense... :C

I don't think BW intended to make Leliana a liar. It's probably just that it made more sense for the DLC to tell the story a bit differently. It is also the fact that, I read it somewhere, I don't remember where, the DLC story is told from a bard's perspective, which means it is told with some embellishments to make it more attractive to the listener. It's not all so black and white. It's a bit more colourful. 

[EricaCousland]

laradenton wrote...

EricaCousland wrote...

She's an absolute liar then, since this is not what happens in the DLC.
At least I can tell myself she lied, unlike with some of the issues of consistency you can get importing a character from Origins to Awakening.

I like my stories to make sense... :C

I don't think BW intended to make Leliana a liar. It's probably just that it made more sense for the DLC to tell the story a bit differently. It is also the fact that, I read it somewhere, I don't remember where, the DLC story is told from a bard's perspective, which means it is told with some embellishments to make it more attractive to the listener. It's not all so black and white. It's a bit more colourful. 

It's less embellishment and 'huge changes', but I can accept that. She DOES say something which sounds similar at the end. I wanted to make sure that I hadn't gotten myself mixed up with what's what.

[Arrtis]

she said she gave them back to marjolaine...while in lel song she gave them away...

Giving them away sounds more itneresting then simply compelting an assignment.

Thats just me though.

[Lara Denton]

EricaCousland wrote...

laradenton wrote...

EricaCousland wrote...

She's an absolute liar then, since this is not what happens in the DLC.
At least I can tell myself she lied, unlike with some of the issues of consistency you can get importing a character from Origins to Awakening.

I like my stories to make sense... :C

I don't think BW intended to make Leliana a liar. It's probably just that it made more sense for the DLC to tell the story a bit differently. It is also the fact that, I read it somewhere, I don't remember where, the DLC story is told from a bard's perspective, which means it is told with some embellishments to make it more attractive to the listener. It's not all so black and white. It's a bit more colourful. 

It's less embellishment and 'huge changes', but I can accept that. She DOES say something which sounds similar at the end. I wanted to make sure that I hadn't gotten myself mixed up with what's what.

I'll have to play the DLC to get an idea about these changes, but it's not out for the PC yet.

[EnchantedEyes1]

follis2 wrote...
The major detail for me was meeting Adaia, the mother of the City Elf Warden! As for hints about Dragon Age 2, I would guess it has to do about the relationship between Orlais and Ferelden.

Oh, oh, oh! This just gave me chills  - this in itself would make me buy the DLC!

[Zy-El]

follis2 wrote...

Strange, the new armor was there when I loaded up a regular game, but its attributes were downgraded compared to the DLC. In the DLC the armor gives you 100 stamina, whereas it's only 50 in the regular game. 

What level is your character?  Perhaps the DLC items scales according to your character level.  Maybe try selling it to Wade and buy it back later and see if it upgrades.

[Sarah1281]

You meet Adaia? I guess that limits how the CE can look then and still look believable.

[Zahxia]

The fact Leliana isn't all that she seems is what makes her so appealing. You know there's a good chance Morrigan will prey on you but with Leliana you never know if she's the sweet girl lead astray or if she's exceptional as a bard.



I'm not sure how faithful this DLC is to DA:O if it's lore or just 'acceptable lore' and I have a feeling people will spend more time talking about its faults (because gushing isn't as fun).

[old book]

In an interview, the DLC writers said something on the lines that the story in the DLC is Lel's version of the song. She's exagerating and embellishing to make things more interesting. So, you really can't trust what you see in the DLC, or what she tells you in game.



Lel probably can't keep her own story straight when telling it to herself, let alone other people.

[David Gaider]

Leliana's Song is a story being told by Leliana, and if you listen she playfully says at the end that the details change with the telling. I guess bards aren't overly pedantic about consistency. I can relate.

[KendallX23]

heh...who knows how many changes the story went through between the years...Leliana is a storyteller

[Lara Denton]

David Gaider wrote...

Leliana's Song is a story being told by Leliana, and if you listen she playfully says at the end that the details change with the telling. I guess bards aren't overly pedantic about consistency. I can relate.

I liked how she told stories in the Origins, so I can't wait to "hear" this one as well. 

[Massadonious1]

Sketch for DA2, anyone?



And Mark Meer as Tug, I never would of guessed it. Who says that guy doesn't have range.

[AndroLeonidas]

David Gaider wrote...

Leliana's Song is a story being told by Leliana, and if you listen she playfully says at the end that the details change with the telling. I guess bards aren't overly pedantic about consistency. I can relate.

Thank you!!

After playing this... I can not bring myself to romance anyone but her! The few details that seem to be out of place are not that BIG a deal. If you are imaginative you can actually relate how she tells the tale in DA to what happens in the DLC from her point of view. I had no trouble with it whatsoever.

Aside from the fact that I'm particularly glad I choose to kill M every single time!!

Excellent DLC and well worth the $!! IMHO of course! Only wish that bow or sword would have carried over too!!

I want a DLC with a little more dialogue and expansion or her romance with the Warden. Perhaps a mission for the main game that only the two of them go on as a prelude to meeting up with M. Wishful thinking I guess.

[Sarah1281]

AndroLeonidas wrote...
After playing this... I can not bring myself to romance anyone but her!

Why? Keep in mind I don't have it yet so...is the story that compelling? Does it make Leliana more likeable than before? 

[Slarth79]

What item do you get & what's it's stats?



Many Thanks