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1hr 50min on Nightmare. It was cool. Only 3 achievements for PC & not 4. 2/3 origin & 1/3 Awakenig Scenery. Disappointed that the Bonus armor is not a set bonus item with Wade's drakeskin armor & did not get to see any of Orlais, but all in all it was pretty enjoyable. I actually liked it better when Leliana's past was a bit more of a mystery.

Modifié par jsachun, 08 juillet 2010 - 09:47 .


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Mystery can always be better then reality, it all depends on expectation. Take the character Wolverine (x-men), before they revealed his past, he was the most popular character in the Marvel Universe... along side Spider-man. But once they revealed his past, the mystery was gone, and no one really liked him as much sense then. I was quite impressed with Leliana's background however, I thought it was a very fulfilling story. The funny thing is... It's different then what really happened, or at least what she tells you in Origins, which is why I guess it helps to be the story teller. You can reveal it however you like, in whatever light you wish.

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Just to note: The Twitter annoucements were made in the dragonage and main Bioware accounts, but NOT in the masseffect feed. So I'm not expecting that this will be Mass Effect related. DA2 please!

Edit: Sorry this was to a poster on the previous page. I wasn't intending this post to look so blatently off-topic! :)

Modifié par Jezcentral, 08 juillet 2010 - 09:52 .


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Yes, it wasn't posted on Mass Effect feed, therefore it's most likely Dragon Age related. It would make sense to get confirmation on Dragon Age 2 before Mass Effect 3 anyway... Mass Effect 2 seems like it just came out.

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I'd laugh if it's the announcement of what everybodies been waiting for. A new patch for DA.

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Well... that's kinda already been announced. If it was released then, I could understand that.

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Jezcentral wrote...

Just to note: The Twitter annoucements were made in the dragonage and main Bioware accounts, but NOT in the masseffect feed. So I'm not expecting that this will be Mass Effect related. DA2 please!

Edit: Sorry this was to a poster on the previous page. I wasn't intending this post to look so blatently off-topic! :)


Sorry off topic (again):

kotaku.com/5581903/dragon-age-2-made-official-today-err-tomorrow

:o

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I hope it's not DA2 - not that I don't want it, but because we've been aware of that for quite some time, so this may be something new......

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kaotician wrote...

I hope it's not DA2 - not that I don't want it, but because we've been aware of that for quite some time, so this may be something new......


That's something I can completely agree with. Besides I think it would be hilarious for this to turn out not being DA2 and forcing Kotaku to eat their assumption just like EA made GameSpot eat their fact-like announcements that ME3 and DA2 would be revealed at E3.

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Also those graphic cards introducing every character: lame. How am I supposed to be immersed in a old fantasy setting with MTV/comic book stylings pulling me out of it? Please don't use them again.

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jsachun wrote...

I'd laugh if it's the announcement of what everybodies been waiting for. A new patch for DA.


Now I'm the one laughing!:innocent:

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Finished Leliana's Song yesterday - great DLC, i enjoyed it. Nice story and dialogues, also having fully voiced player's character seemed definitively better to me.

But I should also add that when I compared Leliana's song to recently released Overlord for ME2 and considered the fact that most of the maps were reused from DAO, I felt like Overlord offered better value for the same money.

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I've played Leliana's song and I really enjoyed it, the only thing I didn't liked were the character inroductions, that was something I would've expected from a trailer....

But still it was a good DLC.

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** Edited from my original posting to remove potential spoilers. I think I got them all, sorry if I missed one or two. Not like there really was a lot I guess. **

I’m likely to take a lot of flak for this since I’m probably in the minority on my views for this.

Sorry but this thing is not all that impressive. Yet again with BioWare downloads/expansions I’m disappointed. Honestly is this the best they can come up with? This thing is nothing but a mild diversion that does not even follow what we are told by Leliana as what even happened. I honestly think Darkspawn Chronicles is more fun than this thing. Even Leliana fans might find themselves scratching their head at why they bough this with all the odd twists to the story as told and what we get.

Good:
-A cameo appearance by **** was nice.

-A few interesting things in dialog hinting at how she chooses her new hair style you see in Origins.

-The companions are as usual a good group.

Bad:
-More than once did I find my sword and dagger mysteriously unequipped for no reason.

-Dialog glitches where Leliana or others are supposed to say something but all you get is the subtitles. Playtesters are obviously not used by BioWare anymore for anything they make.

-Revisiting the same locations in Denerim as well as Forlorn Cove from Awakenings is nothing but boring. I guess creating actual new locations to do these missions in would be to much to ask. You know someplace where this story was supposed to have actually have happened in, Orlais. Even seeing the same bodies in the dungeon was lame.

-Why even use the leveling for skills if you cant use most of them? Cant make potions or traps. You can choose Coercion but its pointless since you have no influence over anyone.

-To short to be really enjoyable. Playtime for this is really bad. I clocked in at just over 4 hours and I had the game on pause for a lot of that time. I would be willing to bet you could beat this in about an hour or an hour and a half at the most.

-Why is ***** weapon turned into a gift instead of a standard weapon? There is only two options who you would give it to, Leliana and ****. You get more gifts in Darkspawn Chronicles than this single one in this download. So why even have it turn into as a gift?

Very bad:
-Wasn’t Leliana captured in Orlais and imprisoned there? Not to mention the betrayal quest here doesn’t match what she tells us what happened in the DAO. She was sent to kill a man and retrieve papers on him but she opened them. Marjolaine turned her in to the Orlaisian guards not this lame attempt of a story and how it unfolds.

-Does anyone pay attention to what is established in the main game for these downloads and expansions?

The Questionable:
-The comic/cartoon like pause and splash of red we get when your introduced to each character you meet of importance. It was interesting when it first happens at the beginning but not through out the whole story. Did Quentin Tarantino direct this?

-The new combat music is nice and new but is almost annoying since a fight can be rather short so you sometimes don’t get to hear it.

-Tug, Sketch, Lem? Couldn’t think up better names? I know it’s a little thing but they still seems like cheesy names. “Tug on my finger please.” “Lets Sketch a new character design.” “Anyone want some Lemonade to drink while we think of names. Hmm lemon.. Hey, Mon! No that wont work.. Nades? No good either.. Lem!”. Larry, Moe and Curly would have been better, well maybe not...

-Climbing up into the estate really means climbing down into the dungeons?

-Getting tossed into the dungeon with your armor on?

-Seeing a chest full of your gear in a room that **** is a prisoner in. Makes sense to keep the weapons and their armor in the same room as the prisoners right?

-Seeing Marjolaine and Leliana’s relationship together was decent but it should have been expanded on a hell of a lot more that what we see here.

-Battledress of the Provocateur is kind of nice. To bad it looks exactly like most of the other armor we already get and its only the base armor and not a whole set. Why not make it look like the concept art armor you see her in?
http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/File:Leliana_Concept_Art.jpg

This gets a 3 out of 10. It adds nothing really to the actual main game (DAO) beyond adding a piece of armor and a messed up version of a story we pretty much already knew.

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@ Darth Drago
well u might be a minority but i can believe what your saying. still deciding if i want this dlc or not but tbh i still dont realy feel any need to buy it. Could think of many other things id like to see from dlc then a story thats already been told, and given that almost everything dragon age related besides the game itself has been pretty poor still not sure i will bother will wait for more feed back first

Modifié par element eater, 08 juillet 2010 - 05:55 .


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I liked it.



The Q.T blood name thing...I kinda liked that too. But I am a Q.T fan so...



The sideways glance had me roaring with laughter. Will we get a mage (Wynne?) and warrior (Logain?) one too?

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I really enjoyed the music in the DLC, is there any place to get it? Is it being released?

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Darth, thanks for nit picking Leliana's Song. I think we can all agree that the storyline wasn't consistant based upon Leliana's account in DAO: However, it is a very good play-through DLC --as far as I am concerned. I would have also liked to have seen more of her equipment transferable to DAO and Awakening.
 
I don't know if anyone is aware of it but the armor is also available in Awakening as a 10.5 as appose to the 9 in DAO. It is sad that Leliana doesn't appear in Awakening -- especially if your male or female character was romancing her.
 
For me Leliana is as much apart of the  DAO experience as the character that you create. That all being said, I suppose that it would be too much of a minumental task to create such a thing.

Still, I would pay another $40 for and expansion that includes Leliana and Silas. Silas is a much better chacacter than that cry baby Alister. I don't know what more I can say --except thanks Bioware. Keep up the good work!

Modifié par Jallard, 08 juillet 2010 - 08:39 .


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Darth Drago wrote...

*snip*

I totally agree with your points. The story doesn't match up with what Leliana describes in DAO. I  noticed that the writer was not Sheryl Chee and he obviously took A LOT of liberties with the story. It shouldn't have taken place in Ferelden, for starters, and Leli and Marjolaine's relationship seemed really superficial and was barely explored at all.

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spottyblanket wrote...

I liked it.

The Q.T blood name thing...I kinda liked that too. But I am a Q.T fan so...

The sideways glance had me roaring with laughter. Will we get a mage (Wynne?) and warrior (Logain?) one too?


I hope not!

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I bought it. Although either the PSN or the EA DAO servers were a MESS yesterday, maybe both? I had to cancel and restart the download of BOTH the DLC and the DAO patch.



Already patched awakenings a few weeks back on PS3

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Darth Drago

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For me the big thing with it besides its very limited replay value (Darkspawn Chronicles has more than this), is how everything is, well boring and contradicting to what we know about Leliana and bards. It might as well be another fairy tail what if like story that Darkspawn Chronicles was.

Having already heard Leliana’s story about what happens in Origins, playing this thing just seems half done and thought out to me. A lot of pointless killing of to many guards (what were there, about 15 of them at a low guess?) in the market because bards are supposed to be frontline killers now? What ever happened to blending in?
"A bard must know history so she does not repeat it. She tells the tales but is never part of them. She watches but remains above what she sees. She inspires passions in others and rules her own."
-from Dragon Age The Stolen Throne. So much for not being a part of the tale.

To bad they didn’t take their time with this and expand it to actually be worth replaying more than it takes to get the achievements. They could have given us a glimpse of a city in Orlias instead of reusing Denerim. They could have also expanded a lot more on the story and the relationship between Leliana and Marjolaine as well as the other companions. Give us some real insight as to the reasons for Marjolaine’s betrayal. Even have Leliana and Marjolaine as the only members of a group for a few quests. Its never even explained as to why Leliana has 2 companions in the first place that are not bards themselves.

So much they could have done but didn’t because they wanted a quick short download. If they had made it to the size of a typical Bethesda download for thier games this could have been truley great, if it was done right that is.

Getting nickeled and dimed with short little adventures for ME2 and DAO is really getting old, especially when the last few for DAO adds nothing to the main game at all.



 

Modifié par Darth Drago, 08 juillet 2010 - 10:59 .


#348
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Loved it, story was interesting even if it was different from what Leliana tells us in DA:O.



My main problems were the fact that the armour you find looks so boring and the fact that I had to run around Denerim again. I was really hoping for new scenery, not reusing one of the more boring locations in DA:O.



Otherwise this DLC is right up there as one of my favourites.




#349
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I finished the dlc, and gained all achievements. But why is it not showing on my social site.

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Yeah the generic leather armor skin sucked. I enjoyed the DLC. Didn't mind Denerim however I would have preferred Orlais.



But my one complaint is the special armor (that I now have in all my DA:O games) is another suit of ugly leather with an S&M collar. Yippie...