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#101
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I still see people using their real names acting like jerks on Facebook all the time. They post their workplace/university for all to see. Forcing people to use real names isn't going to stop trolling, and in some cases, it may exacerbate the problem.

I'm going to speak from experience here:

Earlier this summer, I received a call from the admissions office from the university that I currently attend. I was accused by one of the admissions officers for posting negative things about the university on the university's class of 2014 page on Facebook. This admissions officer warned me that I might face disciplinary action if I did not stop. 

I was shocked, since I never even posted on the class of 2014's Facebook page.

Upon further investigation, I discovered that someone was using a sockpuppet with my name attached to it. I informed admissions office of the circumstances, and using some old-fashioned detective work, I managed to discover who was behind the sockpuppet. (It was really easy, since this sockpuppet actually joined my university's network and was friends with several people that I knew at the university.) I just simply used the wall-to-wall function on Facebook, and voila, I learned from the contents of these discussions who was behind this sockpuppet.

In short, forcing people to use real names will cause problems, since people can easily impersonate others. Given the nature of the Internet, anyone can pose as anyone without too much difficulty.

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I think someone touched upon the consent issue briefly. I would imagine that the laws vary greatly from country to country, but I wonder about the legality issue here in the United States of asking someone under 18 to provide their personal information for all to see. I realize that it's voluntary and not essential to the function of the game but I'm sure some group somewhere will challenge it in court.



Adults are a different matter of course. They have every right to set the terms as they see fit. I still think that it's a bad move on their part and will ultimately solve less problems than it causes.

#103
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Player A is clearing out a place to get to a quest. Player B runs in right before player A pulls the mob, and player B takes the kill. Player A then links player B's in game name to his real name on the forums and from that gets his facebook page. Player A then hacks into player B's facebook and has a field day with it.

Any competent /b/ ****** is going to love this change.

#104
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Speaking of impersonations, it's not hard to simply go around typing in somebody's full name in threads full of defamatory subjects. If your name isn't "John Smith" and you get somebody that holds a grudge against you, it can easily wind up being the first search hit unless you have a big enough presence online to drown that out.



I don't think it worked out that great for Usenet, where it is/was considered standard courtesy to use your real name in many groups, and sometimes your full name would get inserted into the headers by the news server anyway, even if you changed that.

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Never cared for Privacy. After what gaider said. If Bioware did do something like that. I'm staying this place is like crack to me. I love it here. This is the only site I feel truly at home with. Mostly because MAss effect is my second favorite game of all time. If the trolls leave thats fine. I've heard of the trolls on the Blizzards site. They have made a lot of good players leave who just wanted to a bit of advice and about the game. Nope body should be put down for asking for help. Unless its something silly like pressing button A. JK!

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what's in a name? somebody tracked down and listed all of the important people at activision-blizzard, and posted some of their personal phone numbers. as far as their facebook profiles are concerned, they got waht was coming. if you're too stupid to figure out how to block certain information off from outsider's eyes, i have no sympathy for you. there's no way in hell i'd list my phone number ANYWHERE on any social networking sites. that's asking for trouble. the same goes for wedding info and other sensitive information.

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If bioware did this I would likely stop buying their games or DLC if it required me to regester them with a forum account that has my real name.



"Anonymity, is like a warm blanet to be wrapped up in."



Kudos to whom ever gets the referance.

#108
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There is absolutely zero point in forcing us to use our real names.

#109
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Syncrosonix wrote...

what's in a name? somebody tracked down and listed all of the important people at activision-blizzard, and posted some of their personal phone numbers. as far as their facebook profiles are concerned, they got waht was coming. if you're too stupid to figure out how to block certain information off from outsider's eyes, i have no sympathy for you. there's no way in hell i'd list my phone number ANYWHERE on any social networking sites. that's asking for trouble. the same goes for wedding info and other sensitive information.

Except all the important people already have to list their names in the game credits. All of the developers on this forum also have to reveal their name whenever they post as well.

The fact that "somebody" tracked down and did this doesn't help their cause, as it only further supports the reason why that "somebody" should also have their real name shown.

It's definitely a bad idea with lots of possible abuse, but people shouldn't act as if game developer employees don't already have to "expose" themselves to respond to the community. Thus, I can somewhat understand their reasons for doing this, especially with all the whining and trolling that occurs on the Blizzard forums these days.

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From the looks of it Blizzard are taking notice of the outcry, and may put this move on hold, there's no point in doing it anyway, it's not like they cannot find out who you are from your personal details as it is?

Modifié par Outamyhead, 09 juillet 2010 - 02:24 .


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Ecael wrote...

Syncrosonix wrote...

what's in a name? somebody tracked down and listed all of the important people at activision-blizzard, and posted some of their personal phone numbers. as far as their facebook profiles are concerned, they got waht was coming. if you're too stupid to figure out how to block certain information off from outsider's eyes, i have no sympathy for you. there's no way in hell i'd list my phone number ANYWHERE on any social networking sites. that's asking for trouble. the same goes for wedding info and other sensitive information.

Except all the important people already have to list their names in the game credits. All of the developers on this forum also have to reveal their name whenever they post as well.

The fact that "somebody" tracked down and did this doesn't help their cause, as it only further supports the reason why that "somebody" should also have their real name shown.

It's definitely a bad idea with lots of possible abuse, but people shouldn't act as if game developer employees don't already have to "expose" themselves to respond to the community. Thus, I can somewhat understand their reasons for doing this, especially with all the whining and trolling that occurs on the Blizzard forums these days.


i really don't care about the real ID either way. all of my old posts in the warcraft forums are so old that they've been deleted, and the realID integration will only affect people who post in their forums after the implementation. people don't have to post in their official forums, anyway.

somebody went out of their way to show just how crazy somebody can be about figuring out somebody and seeing what they're about. you've gotta admit, though, there are a LOT of crazy, no life having people who play wow. the very kind of people who'll scream and yell at somebody during a raid. somebody who blows a gasket because somebody made an honest error must be real unpleasant people in real life.

#112
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Ok, forumsirs and forumettes! Blizzard is no longer doing the real name thang. So woot for that community and hopefully woot for us.




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This stuff cracks me up. They make this announcement, get the foreseeable response of WTF NO! from the userbase, and decide to backtrack...

Some basic research could have saved them some grief.

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Oh thank goodness, I thought I would have to reveal my true indentity...



*swooshes from a roof and lands on a nearby car, crushing it*

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LOL

Man that poor employee who chose the wrong time to post his name must be suffering a "Molly" (Draw Muhammad day)

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*Blizzard has completely retracted its anti-anonymity plans*
*Blizzard was terrified by the response from its users*



Glad they saw reason and it didnt catch on, its a horrible idea/theory for gamer boards. But reading thru it does give the hint that it will still happen, now the fanbase will just get it in doses with new "cool" features added to the Real ID option, and so when it has enough users. They will try and sell the idea again!.

;)

Modifié par Zhijn, 10 juillet 2010 - 02:28 .


#117
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Got no problem showing my firstname, but I'd rather have some privacy and not reveal my lastname.