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[Jestina]

She's the best choice for ruler. Manipulation is just part of politics, they all do it. They play Alistair like a puppet. At least Anora knows her way around the political arena.

[PunkNouveau13]

Sarah1281 wrote...

Although, wanting to have Alistair executed put her on my sh!t list for a moment.

If he wanders off and becomes a drunk there ARE rebellions held in his name. And Alistair insisting on killing her father despite the fact that you and Riordan decided to make him a GW (as if you agree with killing Loghain then she doesn't call for his head) puts Alistair on HER **** list.

I know, I know. It was only for a moment since I understood the reason behind it. But still, 'tis to pretty a head to have chopped off.


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[Jestina]

Well you can always preserve it and mount it on a pike or over the hearth.

[BillWatson08]

JasonPogo wrote...

I used to hate Anora. Then I played through as a male human noble and married her. I don't know there is just something very sweet in the way she says she is nervus about the wedding. And then in the beginning of Awakening when she comes to meet you rather than Alistair. It is nothing obvious but you really get the impression that there are some real feelings between the Warden and her.

I love Anora. She's beautiful, inteligent, rich...and she's got huge tracts of land. I only wish I could have had more interaction with her.  As Jason said, when Anora admits to being intimidated by you, I thought that was so sweet. The fact is that she never had friends, she loved her first husband, but I don't think she respected him, and if she doesn't marry either the Warden or Alistair, she never remarrries, because all men fail to measure up to her father.

As for honesty and betrayal, well that depends doesn't it. You could easily agree to support her, and at the Landsmeet, throw her to the wolves. Alistair will place her in the tower with the understanding that if he survives the battle, she won't have long to live either. Its a cruel, harsh world people. And you know, in all the times I've played DAO, (more than a dozen to completion) she only betrayed me once. And that was when I told her in advance what I would plan to do to her father.

And one more thing. I hope those of you who dislike her also dislike Morrigan for being dishonest as well. I've had my say. She's my favorite character after Leliana.

[Costin_Razvan]

I know, I know. It was only for a moment since I understood the reason behind it. But still, 'tis to pretty a head to have chopped off.

I did that only twice....and it was mostly directed at my hatred towards Loghain haters. Seriously before I came to these forums I had just finished my second character, a DE who romanced Alistair, hardened him and then placed his ass on the throne along with Anora, while she and Loghain went to rebuild the wardens. ( wanted to place Alistair on the throne on my first playthrough but he refused to marry Anora. )

As for Anora, I like her quite a lot. What kind of guy wouldn't like a beautiful, strong and very smart woman? Obviously women can hate her easily, as she is competition. though they might also respect her just as easily for being the image women want to show to the world ( just referring to the qualities I listed here nothing else, and no offence meant ).

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 07 juillet 2010 - 11:21 .

[PunkNouveau13]

Jestina wrote...

Well you can always preserve it and mount it on a pike or over the hearth.

Ha! I can just imagine. Alistair's head mounted on a wall making a 'derp' face. Interesting. But, mounted heads of animals always creeped me out. Seemed like their eyes are always following you.

[Sarah1281]

Obviously women can hate her easily, as she is competition.

Do you feel she is somehow competition for all women who play the game/female Wardens or just for female Wardens romancing Alistair and who can't marry him but she can? I've gotta say, I  Anora and haven't even felt threatened by her. Why would I? 

Modifié par Sarah1281, 07 juillet 2010 - 11:27 .

[Costin_Razvan]

I also say women can respect her just as easily as they can hate her.

And I think some women would see her as competition no matter if they are romancing Alistair or not.

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 07 juillet 2010 - 11:36 .

[Sarah1281]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

I also say women can respect her just as easily as they can hate her.

And I think some women would see her as competition no matter if they are romancing Alistair or not.

Competition for what? Being a woman with power? That's kind of stupid.

[BHRamsay]

I have always distrusted Anora a little.... I find it a little convenient that she supports her father for almost a year, knowing what he has done, only breaking ranks when it's her butt on the line.



I tend to agree with Alister's take on her that she seems to be under the illusion that whats good for Anora = whats best for Ferelden



I find her willingness to manipulate the PC, Eamon and her Father a little disenchanting



But my biggest issue with Anora has nothing to do with the game as much as it has to do with her character ....the kind of leaders who I admire who inspire people to greatness and to reach beyond themselves for the good of all ... those kinds of leaders don't act like Anora does.



To be blunt... I would march into hell on the say so of several of the people who care about Anora but I doubt I would be willing to march into hell FOR Anora.

[Costin_Razvan]

Sarah1281 wrote...

Costin_Razvan wrote...

I also say women can respect her just as easily as they can hate her.

And I think some women would see her as competition no matter if they are romancing Alistair or not.

Competition for what? Being a woman with power? That's kind of stupid.

Don't be surprised....you know the saying: There can only be one Wolf Alpha in the pack, not two.

 To be blunt... I would march into hell on the say so of several of the people who care about Anora but I doubt I would be willing to march into hell FOR Anora.

Admittedly I would be willing to do the same if Loghain was the general there ( though who else cares about her besides Cailan? ), and not for Anora ( who is not a general ).

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 08 juillet 2010 - 12:06 .

[Jacks Smirking Revenge]

I adore Anora from what little material we get with her she is incredibly interesting and alluring, and I think she is the best looking female NPC in the game as well. Her ruling before Ostagar is exceptional that is supported by Eamon, Empress Celene, and others. Her ruling afterwords minus the Alienage Riot is exceptional as well. Though I don't see the riot bad more or less unfortunate. The only argument Eamon's camp brings to have her over Alistair is his blood, and how his blood has ruled for 400 years. That blood has been conquered, banished the Grey Wardens, recently just regained it's independence 30 years ago, and let the Grey Wardens back in, and is on the verge of being back in civil war and wiped out by the Blight. Not to derail this thread, but I think Cailan is the most responsible for what happened at Ostagar once again(Therin blood). Really when Eamon was like his blood is why we should keep him on the throne I was like -.- you serious? Anora made a better pitch for him by saying he is kind, compassionate and a good warrior. Outside of Maric and Calenhad the the Therin blood hasn't been exactly good for Fereldon.



I think Anora is intelligent, sweet, beautiful, and will give the people the best ruling, so I always will keep her on the throne in a form. Even hardened Alistair warms up to her saying she is beautiful and not as bad as he thought.

[Sarah1281]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

Costin_Razvan wrote...

I also say women can respect her just as easily as they can hate her.

And I think some women would see her as competition no matter if they are romancing Alistair or not.

Competition for what? Being a woman with power? That's kind of stupid.

Don't be surprised....you know the saying: There can only be one Wolf Alpha in the pack, not two.

So because they both happen to be women they are set up to be any more opposed than a male Warden in the exact same situation is with her? Still stupid.

Edit: And while I  Anora I don't see her as being sweet. At all. And yes, I'm counting her 'I'm marrying the Hero of Ferelden' dialogue.

Modifié par Sarah1281, 08 juillet 2010 - 12:32 .

[Aurelet]

I put Anora on the throne my first playthrough...After she crushed a rebellion of the City Elves (gee they were starving again) I never put her on the throne again.

[Sarah1281]

Aurelet wrote...

I put Anora on the throne my first playthrough...After she crushed a rebellion of the City Elves (gee they were starving again) I never put her on the throne again.

As we found out from Awakening, crushing a rebellion saves a lot of pain and bloodshed later on. Plus you can't know that the CE will have problems (which they always do) or that relations would improve under Alistair.

[Aurelet]

But considering the condition they were in both BEFORE DURING AND AFTER the game, I'd think it's about time someone saw to their needs. They are Ferelden Citizens and they are treated no better than slaves under ALL of Anora's rules

[Sarah1281]

But that's metagaming. What reason does your character have to put Anora on the throne? She seems quite concerned about the slavery in the Alienage when she sends you there and Alistair doesn't have much to say on the matter.

[thesuperdarkone]

While I may not hate Anora and, while finding her very attractive, my opinion of her soured a bit when I said I would support her when she married Alistair but betrayed me anyway, even though she was still going to be on the throne with Alistair.

[Sarah1281]

thesuperdarkone wrote...

While I may not hate Anora and, while finding her very attractive, my opinion of her soured a bit when I said I would support her when she married Alistair but betrayed me anyway, even though she was still going to be on the throne with Alistair.

Did you tell her you wanted to kill her father? That turns her against you as well.

[Aurelet]

Sarah1281 wrote...

But that's metagaming. What reason does your character have to put Anora on the throne? She seems quite concerned about the slavery in the Alienage when she sends you there and Alistair doesn't have much to say on the matter.

Oh I don't tell her I won't put her on the throne because of slaves.  I just don't trust her after she betrays me to Cauthrian.  And the little betrayal where she says she will support ME at the landsmeet before I free her.

[thesuperdarkone]

@Sarah: I know that saying you'll kill her father will make her betray you, but it does bother me that she would be willing to kill the only grey wardens in ferelden and willing to plunge ferelden into destruction even if she is supported just to save her father.

[Sarah1281]

thesuperdarkone wrote...

@Sarah: I know that saying you'll kill her father will make her betray you, but it does bother me that she would be willing to kill the only grey wardens in ferelden and willing to plunge ferelden into destruction even if she is supported just to save her father.

Yeah, siding with Loghain when she knows that he'll just push her aside again and that him acknowledging the Blight is a recent development and he's still too paranoid about Orlais (seriously not the time, Loghain) is kind of stupid on her part. On the other hand, she's plagued with the same delusion that she is the only one who can fix Ferelden that her father has, no one knows that the Wardens are absolutely necessary - since wihtout the secret soul-destroying they wouldn't be - and she even admits once the battle is over if she's on the throne that she doubted just three Wardens could kill the Archdemon.

[silverholly83]

I do not like Anora because she's just not the type of person I'd want to be around, female or male.