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That comes down to your definition of role.

For example, I, and many others, see nothing wrong with the survivors being cameos and playing a large role in ME3's ending (like a rally call for war.)  They can create all the new squad characters they want, and have the new squad characters for plot integral scenes.

Now, it's possible that we could have a ME2 squadmember act as a placeholder that becomes plot integral (e.g. MacGuffin provider, like Tali or Mordin), but their MacGuffin (or other plot device) should be something generic or external that anyone can do (like being at the right place at the right time to observe something, get Geth data, save Shepard's ass again, discover a Prothean artefact and be introduced to the plot in returning from said mission, etc.)  An internal MacGuffin or quality would be extremely large and highly variable to include, but it's not impossible nor asset heavy to accomplish, but still difficult (meaning I can't quite think of one off the top of my head.)  So there are plenty of ways to write a ME2 squadmate character to become plot integral.  There just wouldn't be anything to their character, because there's no purpose to them after that.

In another scenario, let's assume everyone from ME2 can be squadmates in ME3.  Does that mean they'll all develop more, have arcs, have backstories?  No.  That's way too much work on completely optional content new ME3 players won't have, nor will that be the focus of the story.  Can they be cardboard cutouts of what we knew of them, with not much to say?  Sure, but there'd be no point, and that's not why we have side characters, which would only insult ME1/2 players.

The best they can do (there may be more, but this is all I've thought of) is give them basic dialog trees that expand as each plot point continues.  Obviously they'll provide more content to LI's trees, and they can have heavy plot involvement (as OP suggests), or fluff.

Well I mean, there's a lot of dialogue, that some players never hear(have you taken every possible permutation of every team to every place?) but that didn't stop Bioware from recording it. I'd say that the average player who imports will hear just as much dialogue as those who play it new. We're like the geth in this community, you say that the old squaddies wouldn't make sense because people wouldn't hear it, but my point is that a large portion of players don't hear it anyway.

That's not reason enough on it's own to bring back ME2 squaddies I agree, but when you think about it the only non-romanceable characters in ME2(I would like to believe that your LI would come back, so if they're penned why not put them all in, even with the Virmire survivor and Liara, whether you agree or not is another point entirely)are Legion, Mordin, Zaeed, Kasumi, Grunt and arguably Samara and Morinth. I understand the points that Zaeed and Kasumi wouldn't come back(regardless of their DLC status) because they were hired. I'd like to believe the overarching threat would keep them from turning their backs on me but I understand why if they do leave. You're Grunt's battlemaster, something I and many others figured to be the reason he would stay. Legion can communicate with the geth through the FTL comm bouys, leaving him with no reason to leave and possibly alerting you to important geth communiques, and Mordin could stay on the ship regardless of his age, as your Q, as the 4chan poster said(even though I don't believe him, it was a good analogy). Morinth would be drawn to murder more people if you had her so she would leave although I feel a paragon shepard could keep Samara around, it being her new "quest" since her 400 year old issue with Morinth is over. I do understand why people think she'd leave to search out new injustices but since you had to be paragon to keep her I think she'd figure you'd do the honorable thing, and if you didn't she'd leave/try to kill you(think ashes of andraste)

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KainrycKarr wrote...

Bluko wrote...

We Tigers wrote...

Just went through the thread, and really, this has been debated since the game's release. In fact, this entire conversation has basically happened 40 times between ME and ME2, even, with all the same points being made on both sides. Also, piles of outrage on the part of the community upon learning that most of the ME1 team wouldn't be available, which later smoothed over into contented acceptance.

I will be stunned if any of the team from ME2 is playable. I'd love it, but I don't think they have the bandwidth to figure it out. It's not Bioware's MO to spend significant amounts of dev time on major items that might be missing from the games of numerous players. Any character who survives will have a brief NPC appearance, and any character who doesn't will be referenced in a line of dialogue at some point.


Exactly my sentiments.


Actually it sounds like their only going to bother with the LI's. Everyone else gets the cameo treatment. Of course this source could be total bullpoo, but it makes sense. We'll know if it's credible when the Lair DLC comes out.


What source?

Sorry I'm trying to read through the like 15+ new pages to see what's been going on. I saw mention of something from 4chan or is there some actual article here I should see? There's nothing credible about 4chan at all as it's just a bunch of diptard teenagers and college kids doing stuff for the "LOLs". I made the mistake of once going to see what all the fuss is about... Needless to say I won't go back. I mean I'm pretty tolerant when it comes to most things on the internet, but there are some seriously sick weirdos on that site. What baffles me is even if you aren't a sick weirdo why would you go to a site that can be associated with such? Surely there are better places to goof around.

The funny thing is for all it's talk of being and promoting "internet freedom" it's sure not helping much. If anything 4chan is practically just asking for governments to start censoring everything on the internet. True some nations already do highly regulate what sites you can and can't go to, but as U.S. citizen it'd be a huge slap in the face if our government started to do the same. It's bad enough just about everything you do these days can be monitored. It's funny people scoff at the idea of "internet police" but it's very much a possibility of becoming a real thing in the future, and to some extents already exists. I mean come on you can already be tracked everywhere by your mobile phone. How hard would it be to track someone down when all they have do is know your ISP?

Bah for whoever mentioned 4chan... If it existed in some tangible physical form I would seriously take a flamethrower to it. But I'm getting off-topic here sorry.

Anyways I'm interested to see how the Shadow Broker DLC will turn out. I was a bit surprised to learn Bioware is actually going to deal with the Shadow Broker via DLC instead of it being something big in ME3. Of course the Shadow Broker may still be a threat in ME3 and this DLC is really just a prelude, but I kind of doubt that. Depending on the outcome this could DLC could end up supporting my arguement or it might not. I am honestly hoping that Liara and Ashley/Kaidan will return as squadmates for ME3. And this DLC could confirm this or not, but we'll just have to wait and see I guess.


Edit: Okay I saw the little 4chan discussion. I  LOL'd @ the end: "You will cry. That is all."

Seriously?

Modifié par Bluko, 04 août 2010 - 01:03 .


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KainrycKarr wrote...

Bluko wrote...

We Tigers wrote...

Just went through the thread, and really, this has been debated since the game's release. In fact, this entire conversation has basically happened 40 times between ME and ME2, even, with all the same points being made on both sides. Also, piles of outrage on the part of the community upon learning that most of the ME1 team wouldn't be available, which later smoothed over into contented acceptance.

I will be stunned if any of the team from ME2 is playable. I'd love it, but I don't think they have the bandwidth to figure it out. It's not Bioware's MO to spend significant amounts of dev time on major items that might be missing from the games of numerous players. Any character who survives will have a brief NPC appearance, and any character who doesn't will be referenced in a line of dialogue at some point.


Exactly my sentiments.


Actually it sounds like their only going to bother with the LI's. Everyone else gets the cameo treatment. Of course this source could be total bullpoo, but it makes sense. We'll know if it's credible when the Lair DLC comes out.


That's purely wishful thinking. No one will be returning. And I'll continue to stand by that until I'm given a reason to think otherwise. I must admit, when its finally revealed we'll be getting a new squad, I'm going to grab a big bowl of popcorn and camp out in the tali thread.

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epoch_ wrote...

KainrycKarr wrote...

Bluko wrote...

We Tigers wrote...

Just went through the thread, and really, this has been debated since the game's release. In fact, this entire conversation has basically happened 40 times between ME and ME2, even, with all the same points being made on both sides. Also, piles of outrage on the part of the community upon learning that most of the ME1 team wouldn't be available, which later smoothed over into contented acceptance.

I will be stunned if any of the team from ME2 is playable. I'd love it, but I don't think they have the bandwidth to figure it out. It's not Bioware's MO to spend significant amounts of dev time on major items that might be missing from the games of numerous players. Any character who survives will have a brief NPC appearance, and any character who doesn't will be referenced in a line of dialogue at some point.


Exactly my sentiments.


Actually it sounds like their only going to bother with the LI's. Everyone else gets the cameo treatment. Of course this source could be total bullpoo, but it makes sense. We'll know if it's credible when the Lair DLC comes out.


That's purely wishful thinking. No one will be returning. And I'll continue to stand by that until I'm given a reason to think otherwise. I must admit, when its finally revealed we'll be getting a new squad, I'm going to grab a big bowl of popcorn and camp out in the tali thread.

Oh blind pessimism with no previous events to back it up... How I loathe thee...

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Who you have as squaddies is going to depend on what you've done in ME1 and ME2. There may be some core characters, but some new additions cannot be discounted. Will your romance choice in ME1 appear in ME3? We'll have to wait and see. The squaddies you've managed to kill off in ME2 through shear talent/poor choices will obviously NOT be appearing in ME3.

It does say in the loading screens for ME2 that choices you make in ME2 may have dramatic consequences in ME3, so choose wisely.

In short, we can speculate all we like, but we're just going to have to wait and see.

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epoch_ wrote...

KainrycKarr wrote...

Bluko wrote...

We Tigers wrote...

Just went through the thread, and really, this has been debated since the game's release. In fact, this entire conversation has basically happened 40 times between ME and ME2, even, with all the same points being made on both sides. Also, piles of outrage on the part of the community upon learning that most of the ME1 team wouldn't be available, which later smoothed over into contented acceptance.

I will be stunned if any of the team from ME2 is playable. I'd love it, but I don't think they have the bandwidth to figure it out. It's not Bioware's MO to spend significant amounts of dev time on major items that might be missing from the games of numerous players. Any character who survives will have a brief NPC appearance, and any character who doesn't will be referenced in a line of dialogue at some point.


Exactly my sentiments.


Actually it sounds like their only going to bother with the LI's. Everyone else gets the cameo treatment. Of course this source could be total bullpoo, but it makes sense. We'll know if it's credible when the Lair DLC comes out.


That's purely wishful thinking. No one will be returning. And I'll continue to stand by that until I'm given a reason to think otherwise. I must admit, when its finally revealed we'll be getting a new squad, I'm going to grab a big bowl of popcorn and camp out in the tali thread.


Wishful thinking? Looking back into the thread and you'll find i don't think they'll come back either. that "wishful thinking" is simply gather from interviews, and highly questionable source who is a supposed bioware writer, along with what already happened with me2.

Get the stick out of your arse and either find something useful to say one way or the other, or gtfo. Noone cares about your silly pessimism. It is what it is, and it won't matter until ME3 comes out, one way or the other.

If you hate the game so much, leave. It's that simple.

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KainrycKarr wrote...

Bluko wrote...

We Tigers wrote...

Just went through the thread, and really, this has been debated since the game's release. In fact, this entire conversation has basically happened 40 times between ME and ME2, even, with all the same points being made on both sides. Also, piles of outrage on the part of the community upon learning that most of the ME1 team wouldn't be available, which later smoothed over into contented acceptance.

I will be stunned if any of the team from ME2 is playable. I'd love it, but I don't think they have the bandwidth to figure it out. It's not Bioware's MO to spend significant amounts of dev time on major items that might be missing from the games of numerous players. Any character who survives will have a brief NPC appearance, and any character who doesn't will be referenced in a line of dialogue at some point.


Exactly my sentiments.


Actually it sounds like their only going to bother with the LI's. Everyone else gets the cameo treatment. Of course this source could be total bullpoo, but it makes sense. We'll know if it's credible when the Lair DLC comes out.


Exactly. Even if the guy claiming to be from Bioware actually isn't, this would make sense since Bioware stated that the LI will play a major role. That's why Ash/Kaiden/Liara were sidelined to keep the Mass 1 LI's alive, and if your Mass 2 LI is alive then they will fill in the role. I'm quite sure Bioware isn't going to sideline a players Mass 2 LI and give them cameo status. 100% sure of it.

-Polite

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I'm going half new and half old. The rest of them will be NPCs.  (Seriously I don't know if you can have 15 squadmates).

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KingDan97 wrote...

epoch_ wrote...

KainrycKarr wrote...

Bluko wrote...

We Tigers wrote...

Just went through the thread, and really, this has been debated since the game's release. In fact, this entire conversation has basically happened 40 times between ME and ME2, even, with all the same points being made on both sides. Also, piles of outrage on the part of the community upon learning that most of the ME1 team wouldn't be available, which later smoothed over into contented acceptance.

I will be stunned if any of the team from ME2 is playable. I'd love it, but I don't think they have the bandwidth to figure it out. It's not Bioware's MO to spend significant amounts of dev time on major items that might be missing from the games of numerous players. Any character who survives will have a brief NPC appearance, and any character who doesn't will be referenced in a line of dialogue at some point.


Exactly my sentiments.


Actually it sounds like their only going to bother with the LI's. Everyone else gets the cameo treatment. Of course this source could be total bullpoo, but it makes sense. We'll know if it's credible when the Lair DLC comes out.


That's purely wishful thinking. No one will be returning. And I'll continue to stand by that until I'm given a reason to think otherwise. I must admit, when its finally revealed we'll be getting a new squad, I'm going to grab a big bowl of popcorn and camp out in the tali thread.

Oh blind pessimism with no previous events to back it up... How I loathe thee...


Haha, I just added this guy to my list of future messages to be sent out. :lol: If you seriously think that no one is returning, even for example a Mass 2 LI if you decided to wait until the second game to get in on that, your sadly, sadly sadly, mistaken. :lol:

-Polite

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PoliteAssasin wrote...
Haha, I just added this guy to my list of future messages to be sent out. :lol: If you seriously think that no one is returning, even for example a Mass 2 LI if you decided to wait until the second game to get in on that, your sadly, sadly sadly, mistaken. :lol:

-Polite

You're on my list for Liara DLC polite, no offense, I just want to weed out the questionable source before the REAL ME3 speculation begins, if you're right of course, I'll admit it. I definitely think ME2 squaddies who survived will be making a return unless they're doing something more important.;)

Modifié par KingDan97, 04 août 2010 - 03:01 .


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While I liked the characters in Mass Effect 2, I don't really need or want all of them to return as squadmates in the next game. My dream team in Mass Effect 3 would consist of Garrus, Mordin, Williams, and three new characters voiced by these actors (with their imagined roles noted):

Nathan Fillion - as a former Alliance soldier turned former Cerberus operative
Claudia Black - as a powerful Asari commando who served Lady Benezia
Edward James Olmos - as a retired N7 specialist who trained Shepard

But that's just me getting carried away.

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KingDan97 wrote...

PoliteAssasin wrote...
Haha, I just added this guy to my list of future messages to be sent out. :lol: If you seriously think that no one is returning, even for example a Mass 2 LI if you decided to wait until the second game to get in on that, your sadly, sadly sadly, mistaken. :lol:

-Polite

You're on my list for Liara DLC polite, no offense, I just want to weed out the questionable source before the REAL ME3 speculation begins, if you're right of course, I'll admit it. I definitely think ME2 squaddies who survived will be making a return unless they're doing something more important.;)


Well the wait is on ;)

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Tighue wrote...

While I liked the characters in Mass Effect 2, I don't really need or want all of them to return as squadmates in the next game. My dream team in Mass Effect 3 would consist of Garrus, Mordin, Williams, and three new characters voiced by these actors (with their imagined roles noted):

Nathan Fillion - as a former Alliance soldier turned former Cerberus operative
Claudia Black - as a powerful Asari commando who served Lady Benezia
Edward James Olmos - as a retired N7 specialist who trained Shepard

But that's just me getting carried away.

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Its all either wishful thinking or cynical pessimism here. So if you're going to dream, dream big. :wizard:

Personally, I'm hoping for a real life holodeck. :P

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PoliteAssasin wrote...

KingDan97 wrote...

PoliteAssasin wrote...
Haha, I just added this guy to my list of future messages to be sent out. :lol: If you seriously think that no one is returning, even for example a Mass 2 LI if you decided to wait until the second game to get in on that, your sadly, sadly sadly, mistaken. :lol:

-Polite

You're on my list for Liara DLC polite, no offense, I just want to weed out the questionable source before the REAL ME3 speculation begins, if you're right of course, I'll admit it. I definitely think ME2 squaddies who survived will be making a return unless they're doing something more important.;)


Well the wait is on ;)

-Polite

I'd like to note my only quantifiable stat as to whether he's lying or not is that whole "Start a relationship" thing.

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Well I've been wondering if the 4 squad mates you see at the end of ME2 are somehow significant. It's always the same 4 people if you save everyone. Does this mean you'll get 4 playables from ME2? As long as Legion is there I'll be happy.

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My guess is their gonna dlc alot of playable characters in ME3.

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Here's how I see it playing out; similar to ME2.



1. New Squadmate

2. New Squadmate

3. New Squadmate

4. ME1 Love Interest

5. ME2 Love Interest (possibly Tali or Miranda, possibly no one)

6. Tali (if exiled)

7. Garrus (if alive)

8. Jacob

9, Miranda (if not ME2 LI)



Tali, Garrus, Jacob, and Miranda are the only people I see coming back. Garrus leaving is incredibly unlikely, and if Talimancers didn't get their LI in the game, I think the Bioware offices would be burned down. As much as everyone may hate Jacob, he reminds me of Garrus in ME1 - sort of cool, but laking character. If he isn't killed during the ME3 intro, I could see him coming back. And Miranda is probably the best bet for coming back there is besides Liara. It took me 2 playthroughs to actually get her to die.

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pvt_java wrote...

Here's how I see it playing out; similar to ME2.

1. New Squadmate
2. New Squadmate
3. New Squadmate
4. ME1 Love Interest
5. ME2 Love Interest (possibly Tali or Miranda, possibly no one)
6. Tali (if exiled)
7. Garrus (if alive)
8. Jacob
9, Miranda (if not ME2 LI)

Tali, Garrus, Jacob, and Miranda are the only people I see coming back. Garrus leaving is incredibly unlikely, and if Talimancers didn't get their LI in the game, I think the Bioware offices would be burned down. As much as everyone may hate Jacob, he reminds me of Garrus in ME1 - sort of cool, but laking character. If he isn't killed during the ME3 intro, I could see him coming back. And Miranda is probably the best bet for coming back there is besides Liara. It took me 2 playthroughs to actually get her to die.


4. ME1 Love Interest -- never had one
5. ME2 Love Interest (possibly Tali or Miranda, possibly no one) -- never had one
6. Tali (if exiled) -- dead
7. Garrus (if alive) -- dead
8. Jacob -- dead
9. Miranda (if not ME2 LI) -- dead

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smudboy wrote...

pvt_java wrote...

Here's how I see it playing out; similar to ME2.

1. New Squadmate
2. New Squadmate
3. New Squadmate
4. ME1 Love Interest
5. ME2 Love Interest (possibly Tali or Miranda, possibly no one)
6. Tali (if exiled)
7. Garrus (if alive)
8. Jacob
9, Miranda (if not ME2 LI)

Tali, Garrus, Jacob, and Miranda are the only people I see coming back. Garrus leaving is incredibly unlikely, and if Talimancers didn't get their LI in the game, I think the Bioware offices would be burned down. As much as everyone may hate Jacob, he reminds me of Garrus in ME1 - sort of cool, but laking character. If he isn't killed during the ME3 intro, I could see him coming back. And Miranda is probably the best bet for coming back there is besides Liara. It took me 2 playthroughs to actually get her to die.


4. ME1 Love Interest -- never had one
5. ME2 Love Interest (possibly Tali or Miranda, possibly no one) -- never had one
6. Tali (if exiled) -- dead
7. Garrus (if alive) -- dead
8. Jacob -- dead
9. Miranda (if not ME2 LI) -- dead


Looks like you'll have a pretty boring game, smud. Sorry you didn't pay attention to the numerous hints, or talk to any of your characters in either game. You'll most likely get 4 totally new characters since you totally screwed up your game. 

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pvt_java wrote...
Looks like you'll have a pretty boring game, smud. Sorry you didn't pay attention to the numerous hints, or talk to any of your characters in either game. You'll most likely get 4 totally new characters since you totally screwed up your game. 

Fun/boring is irrelevant.  These are variables BioWare has to take into account.  They have to consider the LCD, and so do you.

So now that you're aware you've got no LI's and everyone from ME2 is dead...now there's going to be 4 new characters instead of 3?

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smudboy wrote...

pvt_java wrote...

Here's how I see it playing out; similar to ME2.

1. New Squadmate
2. New Squadmate
3. New Squadmate
4. ME1 Love Interest
5. ME2 Love Interest (possibly Tali or Miranda, possibly no one)
6. Tali (if exiled)
7. Garrus (if alive)
8. Jacob
9, Miranda (if not ME2 LI)

Tali, Garrus, Jacob, and Miranda are the only people I see coming back. Garrus leaving is incredibly unlikely, and if Talimancers didn't get their LI in the game, I think the Bioware offices would be burned down. As much as everyone may hate Jacob, he reminds me of Garrus in ME1 - sort of cool, but laking character. If he isn't killed during the ME3 intro, I could see him coming back. And Miranda is probably the best bet for coming back there is besides Liara. It took me 2 playthroughs to actually get her to die.


4. ME1 Love Interest -- never had one
5. ME2 Love Interest (possibly Tali or Miranda, possibly no one) -- never had one
6. Tali (if exiled) -- dead
7. Garrus (if alive) -- dead
8. Jacob -- dead
9. Miranda (if not ME2 LI) -- dead


4. ME1 Love Interest -- never had one -- Liara, will tell her to become TSB.
5. ME2 Love Interest (possibly Tali or Miranda, possibly no one) -- never had one -- Thane, gonna die natural causes in a few months, Kolyat is at large.
6. Tali (if exiled) -- dead -- acquitted, hates Shepard.
7. Garrus (if alive) -- dead --  Sidonis at large.
8. Jacob -- dead ditched for Thane as LI
9. Miranda (if not ME2 LI) -- dead  "resigned" from Cerberus, Oriana in their hands.

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smudboy wrote...

pvt_java wrote...
Looks like you'll have a pretty boring game, smud. Sorry you didn't pay attention to the numerous hints, or talk to any of your characters in either game. You'll most likely get 4 totally new characters since you totally screwed up your game. 

Fun/boring is irrelevant.  These are variables BioWare has to take into account.  They have to consider the LCD, and so do you.

So now that you're aware you've got no LI's and everyone from ME2 is dead...now there's going to be 4 new characters instead of 3?


Yes, Bioware will take these into account, but there's no way that they would take the LCD as the default ME2 experience. That's just ridiculous from both a developer standpoint, a writing standpoint, and even a business standpoint. Even in ME2, it assumes that you recruited Garrus, and romanced the Virmire Survivor depending on your character's sex. They also assumed that the council was lost and Udina was elevated to the Head of the Council. No one, not even the person who suggested Planet Scanning would even entertain the idea that the average player lost their entire squad and never romanced anyone throughout the entire game.  

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Zulu_DFA wrote...

smudboy wrote...

pvt_java wrote...

Here's how I see it playing out; similar to ME2.

1. New Squadmate
2. New Squadmate
3. New Squadmate
4. ME1 Love Interest
5. ME2 Love Interest (possibly Tali or Miranda, possibly no one)
6. Tali (if exiled)
7. Garrus (if alive)
8. Jacob
9, Miranda (if not ME2 LI)

Tali, Garrus, Jacob, and Miranda are the only people I see coming back. Garrus leaving is incredibly unlikely, and if Talimancers didn't get their LI in the game, I think the Bioware offices would be burned down. As much as everyone may hate Jacob, he reminds me of Garrus in ME1 - sort of cool, but laking character. If he isn't killed during the ME3 intro, I could see him coming back. And Miranda is probably the best bet for coming back there is besides Liara. It took me 2 playthroughs to actually get her to die.


4. ME1 Love Interest -- never had one
5. ME2 Love Interest (possibly Tali or Miranda, possibly no one) -- never had one
6. Tali (if exiled) -- dead
7. Garrus (if alive) -- dead
8. Jacob -- dead
9. Miranda (if not ME2 LI) -- dead


4. ME1 Love Interest -- never had one -- Liara, will tell her to become TSB.
5. ME2 Love Interest (possibly Tali or Miranda, possibly no one) -- never had one -- Thane, gonna die natural causes in a few months, Kolyat is at large.
6. Tali (if exiled) -- dead -- acquitted, hates Shepard.
7. Garrus (if alive) -- dead --  Sidonis at large.
8. Jacob -- dead ditched for Thane as LI
9. Miranda (if not ME2 LI) -- dead  "resigned" from Cerberus, Oriana in their hands.


5. Thane is perhaps the exception in this case. Even in the case that he was romanced I still see him spending his last months with Kolyat before he dies.
6. In this case you would simply get a cameo or an email from Tali. But Talimancers or people who obeyed Tali's request would likely have her on the squad.
7. I never took out Dr. Saleon in my first playthrough of ME1, but that doesn't mean he left to go find him. Same with Sidonis.
8. Definately staying then.
9. Staying, perhaps. It's hard to say. 

Anyway it's just my guess, but still, Bioware did not go with the LCD in ME2, I would assume they would not go with the LCD in ME3.

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How can the love interests play a "major role" in anything when you may or may not have one or they may or may not be dead? This is what you people do: you take an utterance from a developer, completely strip it of all context -- because you do not understand context -- and then you proceed to paraphrase it until it mutates into what you want to hear.

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pvt_java wrote...
Yes, Bioware will take these into account, but there's no way that they would take the LCD as the default ME2 experience. That's just ridiculous from both a developer standpoint, a writing standpoint, and even a business standpoint. Even in ME2, it assumes that you recruited Garrus, and romanced the Virmire Survivor depending on your character's sex. They also assumed that the council was lost and Udina was elevated to the Head of the Council. No one, not even the person who suggested Planet Scanning would even entertain the idea that the average player lost their entire squad and never romanced anyone throughout the entire game.  

But they did make LCD the default ME2 experience.  How it is ridiculous?  I don't see it ridiculous on all accounts you mentioned.

A new game gives you a Ruthless background: a killer of Rachni and Wrex.  You save the opposite Virmire survivor sex, but don't garner their love interest.  Whether one got Garrus or not is completely irrelevant to everything.  I'm not sure how that applies to other variables like Helena Blake and Fist, but that's cosmetic.

If Bioware will (and it has to) take the LCD into account, then you must assume the game can function just fine with the least content possible.