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[Yeti13]

I just don't think Bioware will focus on developing a whole new cast of characters for ME3, much easier to just let play with whoever is still alive and possibly 2 new characters. The next game should be about finding out how the hell your going to defeat the invasion which i believe will mostly be about uniting the species of the Milky way to help you fight. They Established the enemy and the past in ME1, the characters and factions in ME2, ME3 will be the final desperate act to defeat them, i dont think there will be time to establish 12+ new relationships (besides arnt the ME2 squad the best in the galaxy?)

[epoch_]

Yeti13 wrote...

I just don't think Bioware will focus on developing a whole new cast of characters for ME3, much easier to just let play with whoever is still alive and possibly 2 new characters. The next game should be about finding out how the hell your going to defeat the invasion which i believe will mostly be about uniting the species of the Milky way to help you fight. They Established the enemy and the past in ME1, the characters and factions in ME2, ME3 will be the final desperate act to defeat them, i dont think there will be time to establish 12+ new relationships (besides arnt the ME2 squad the best in the galaxy?)

4 squad mates isn't enough.

[SmokePants]

BioWare has come up with a new cast of characters in every game they've made. It's what they do. Seriously -- they have writers and artists whose sole job it is to come up with that stuff. What would you have them do? Sit around and pat themselves on the back for making a million nerds get hopelessly attached to their creations? I don't think that would be a good use of project funding.

[Zulu_DFA]

How about this?







This ain't Photoshop, it's an actual screen shot taken post "suicide mission". The save file is perfectly importable for ME2 NG+, so I guess it's clear for ME3 import as well.

[Kaiser Shepard]

How...



What insane breed of logic is this?

[smudboy]

Yeti13 wrote...

I just don't think Bioware will focus on developing a whole new cast of characters for ME3, much easier to just let play with whoever is still alive and possibly 2 new characters. The next game should be about finding out how the hell your going to defeat the invasion which i believe will mostly be about uniting the species of the Milky way to help you fight. They Established the enemy and the past in ME1, the characters and factions in ME2, ME3 will be the final desperate act to defeat them, i dont think there will be time to establish 12+ new relationships (besides arnt the ME2 squad the best in the galaxy?)

1) It would be easier.  Unless you want purely functional squadmate placeholders with no story from ME2, having new players scratch their heads and everyone else suddenly losing faith in BioWare's ability to craft characters.
2) Why would there be 12+ new relationships?
3) We don't know what ME3 will be about, aside from involving the Reapers.

[Jaron Oberyn]

Zulu_DFA wrote...

How about this?



This ain't Photoshop, it's an actual screen shot taken post "suicide mission". The save file is perfectly importable for ME2 NG+, so I guess it's clear for ME3 import as well.

This is either doctored, or modded. You have to have at least 2 players with you. So If this is real, it was a modded game. Because the suicide mission is set up where you have at least two people. You can play without any squadmembers.

-Polite

[theelementslayer]

PoliteAssasin wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

How about this?



This ain't Photoshop, it's an actual screen shot taken post "suicide mission". The save file is perfectly importable for ME2 NG+, so I guess it's clear for ME3 import as well.

This is either doctored, or modded. You have to have at least 2 players with you. So If this is real, it was a modded game. Because the suicide mission is set up where you have at least two people. You can play without any squadmembers.

-Polite

It is fake, photoshopped probably. As you see 8 of the 12 (Zaheed, Legion, Mordin, Garrus, Miranda, Jacob, Thane, and Jack) have the loyalty "ring" under them showing that there loyal. There is no way you can lose with 8 loyal squadmates:wizard:

[epoch_]

Zulu_DFA wrote...

How about this?



This ain't Photoshop, it's an actual screen shot taken post "suicide mission". The save file is perfectly importable for ME2 NG+, so I guess it's clear for ME3 import as well.

Fake

[Chuvvy]

I wouldn't be surprised if we saw a squad comprised solely of LI's.

[Harley_Dude]

If you brought Tali or Garrus to meet squad mates from ME1 you got no additional dialog or even an acknowledgment and both of them can be killed even when loyal. It does not appear Bioware is too attached to them for ME3. I could see Ashley/Kaiden and Liara coming back since they were in the game regardless of ME1 import or new game. Having just these two would be consistent with ME2.

[SmokePants]

That 2/12 "had to" survive is such useless information. At least with Ashley and Kaiden (1 out of 2), they were both alliance military and could play the same role. What are they going to do with 2 out of 12? Write two parts that can work equally well with any of the 12? Those would have to be some generic-ass parts! How about one guy holds a data pad, while the other drags a body.

2/12 was just an arbitrary metric by which Sheperd's survival was determined. I doubt they were trying to save any 2 for the next game. Like I said -- useless information.

It'll be cool to see what happens when a hacked save file with everyone dead  is imported. My bet is that the game works just fine and nothing blows up.

Modifié par SmokePants, 12 août 2010 - 09:59 .

[theelementslayer]

SmokePants wrote...

That 2/12 "had to" survive is such useless information. At least with Ashley and Kaiden (1 out of 2), they were both alliance military and could play the same role. What are they going to do with 2 out of 12? Write two parts that can work equally well with any of the 12? Those would have to be some generic-ass parts! How about one guy holds a data pad, while the other drags a body.

2/12 was just an arbitrary metric by which Sheperd's survival was determined. I doubt they were trying to save any 2 for the next game. Like I said -- useless information.

It'll be cool to see what happens when a hacked save file with everyone dead  is imported. My bet is that the game works just fine and nothing blows up.

lolz you only see one person pull you up. These games arent made one at a time (in terms of ideas) It is entirely plausible that Bioware was like well we need 2 squadmates for the next game, how will we do it. And then someone else says well if you dont have 2 people alive then you die. If youve read through ecals or however you spell her name, thread of the Omega 4 relay guid then you know that it makes sure that you cant have just one alive. Its two or none. Conicidence? I think not.

[SmokePants]

It's not just the grab at the end of the leap; there's a whole panning shot in the ending that would have looked pretty silly had there been one guy standing there waving at you. Plus, the game isn't over at that point. You may still have missions and DLC to play, in which you need 2 guys to fill out your squad. Why don't these things occur to people?

Modifié par SmokePants, 12 août 2010 - 10:32 .

[Zulu_DFA]

theelementslayer wrote...

PoliteAssasin wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

How about this?



This ain't Photoshop, it's an actual screen shot taken post "suicide mission". The save file is perfectly importable for ME2 NG+, so I guess it's clear for ME3 import as well.

This is either doctored, or modded. You have to have at least 2 players with you. So If this is real, it was a modded game. Because the suicide mission is set up where you have at least two people. You can play without any squadmembers.

-Polite

It is fake, photoshopped probably. As you see 8 of the 12 (Zaheed, Legion, Mordin, Garrus, Miranda, Jacob, Thane, and Jack) have the loyalty "ring" under them showing that there loyal. There is no way you can lose with 8 loyal squadmates:wizard:

Modded or not (it is with Gibbed's SE), it will be playable in ME3.

theelementslayer wrote...
you know that it makes sure that you cant have just one alive. Its two or none. Conicidence? I think not.

It's not. You can't continue playing ME2 without squadmates. You just get stuck in this Squad Selection screen, whenever you want to land/dock somewhere. But the game does not crash or anything. And I actually imported this save for NG+.

So the "Rule of 2" is there to continue playing unfinished missions and DLC after the "suicide mission". It has no bearing regarding ME3.

[Jaron Oberyn]

If you think that modded save will work in Mass 3, your going to be in for a shock.



-Polite

[epoch_]

If either of you think you know whether or not that save will work in ME3, yar going to be in for a shock.

[A.N.A.N]

Didn't Bioware say in the past that save files with characters that have too many skill points may corrupt in the transfer to ME3? Yet such a save works perfectly for NG+. Perhaps thee is something else

[epoch_]

A.N.A.N wrote...

Didn't Bioware say in the past that save files with characters that have too many skill points may corrupt in the transfer to ME3? Yet such a save works perfectly for NG+. Perhaps thee is something else

Its funny how often forum speculations starts to get taken as a fact after so long.

[A.N.A.N]

Is that what that was? I remember a staffer saying it, but maybe I'm wrong. ?.?

[Yeti13]

Well we will have to see people, i suppose its impossible to know whats going to happen until it does, regardless Im sure bioware will "up the ante once again."



I'm still angling for a dreadnought for Shepard (hint, hint Bioware)

[snfonseka]

Zulu_DFA wrote...

theelementslayer wrote...

PoliteAssasin wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

How about this?



This ain't Photoshop, it's an actual screen shot taken post "suicide mission". The save file is perfectly importable for ME2 NG+, so I guess it's clear for ME3 import as well.

This is either doctored, or modded. You have to have at least 2 players with you. So If this is real, it was a modded game. Because the suicide mission is set up where you have at least two people. You can play without any squadmembers.

-Polite

It is fake, photoshopped probably. As you see 8 of the 12 (Zaheed, Legion, Mordin, Garrus, Miranda, Jacob, Thane, and Jack) have the loyalty "ring" under them showing that there loyal. There is no way you can lose with 8 loyal squadmates:wizard:

Modded or not (it is with Gibbed's SE), it will be playable in ME3.

theelementslayer wrote...
you know that it makes sure that you cant have just one alive. Its two or none. Conicidence? I think not.

It's not. You can't continue playing ME2 without squadmates. You just get stuck in this Squad Selection screen, whenever you want to land/dock somewhere. But the game does not crash or anything. And I actually imported this save for NG+.

So the "Rule of 2" is there to continue playing unfinished missions and DLC after the "suicide mission". It has no bearing regarding ME3.

If ME3 program is written in following way... this save file will cause a game crash....

If (Shepard is survived){

1. Select the surviving characters from ME2 save file. <-- This statement will never complete its execution.
2. Load the selected characters information to ME3 character modules.
......
}
else If(Shepard is dead){
....
.....
}

So you cannot say how the save file loading will work. It will depend on the programing of the developer.

Modifié par snfonseka, 13 août 2010 - 04:12 .

[snfonseka]

epoch_ wrote...

A.N.A.N wrote...

Didn't Bioware say in the past that save files with characters that have too many skill points may corrupt in the transfer to ME3? Yet such a save works perfectly for NG+. Perhaps thee is something else

Its funny how often forum speculations starts to get taken as a fact after so long.

Actually it is very annoying...