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[Jide Aurelius]

So I wanna take Dog, Morrigan, and Ogrhen to the lands meet. Am I goign to miss out on anythign by not takign Alistair?

[II Relics II]

I believe Alistair is required to go, and may I suggest you take another mage with you (like Wynne) if Morrigan is geared towards CC and Damage...

[Jide Aurelius]

Does dog do anything cool at the landsmeet? or Oghren?

Modifié par Jide Aurelius, 10 novembre 2009 - 03:05 .

[chiliztri]

No, he doesn't.

Edit:

Not sure about Oghren, I didn't bring him along. You're companions are pretty much silent, except Alistair.

Modifié par chiliztri, 10 novembre 2009 - 03:06 .

[Jide Aurelius]

Does Wynne do anything cool conversation wise?

[Dragonsword18]

Wynne is there fo HEALING U ... if u wont have wynne they will kick ur ass so easy that u will curse all the time

[chiliztri]

Well you won't need a healer if you get the Landsmeet to side with you, yes?

[Voor]

Not sure why you brought a healer, I had to do the fight one on one.

[Mystranna Kelteel]

Why does every political meeting like this force you into a duel to decide the victor? It makes the rest of the Landsmeet completely meaningless. 5/6 people side against me? I'll just kill my opposition then and they'll support me!



It's maddening. I go through all that trouble to get evidence against Loghain when all I had to do was beat him in a duel.

[danien.grey]

See as far as I'm aware, you will always "lose" the Landsmeet. I managed to get fully half the houses to side with me and a duel at that point actually made sense.

[Mystranna Kelteel]

I had every arl but one on my side, and Loghain threw a hissy fit and called them traitors, so I had to duel him and end it "honorably". Not that there was any other option.

[menasure]

Mystranna Kelteel wrote...

I had every arl but one on my side, and Loghain threw a hissy fit and called them traitors, so I had to duel him and end it "honorably". Not that there was any other option.

alistair made the decision for me and lost ... and because of that it was game over for me. jeez ... i never wanted alistair in my team from the start in the first place!

[Free2Pay]

First of all, having no auto-save before the duel start mean you have to re-fight the whole mob in the chamber again when u reloaded after Logain slaughter ur party member in single combat. Oversight? Logain beats all my melee fighters wearing the best armors, juggeranuts, dragon scale, legions....u name it...and he resists my blood mage/arcane warrior spell with close to 50 in magic....bravo

[Recidiva]

danien.grey wrote...

See as far as I'm aware, you will always "lose" the Landsmeet. I managed to get fully half the houses to side with me and a duel at that point actually made sense.

I've won all votes but one.  You can win the Landsmeet and then tell Loghain to step down and settle it with a duel.  Then you can choose yourself or someone in your party to be your champion.

Modifié par Recidiva, 27 novembre 2009 - 08:25 .

[fkirenicus]

The Landsmeet dialog options are unfortunately far below the standard in the game.
I feel ripped off - so, I went to hell and back (more or less literally) to gather evidence against the madman, and STILL I have to fight him in order to get the Landsmeet support - even though they rally behind me 4 or 5 to 1?

And Alistair... I won't even BEGIN to go into that. Ridiculous. :-(

That said, the real villain behind this civil war is killed when rescuing Anora. Finally gutting Arl Howe gave me a sense of satisfaction I haven't felt since I beat Jon Irenicus for the first time in BG2.

Modifié par fkirenicus, 27 novembre 2009 - 09:13 .

[Akka le Vil]

fkirenicus wrote...

The Landsmeet dialog options are unfortunately far below the standard in the game.
I feel ripped off - so, I went to hell and back (more or less literally) to gather evidence against the madman, and STILL I have to fight him in order to get the Landsmeet support - even though they rally behind me 4 or 5 to 1?

And Alistair... I won't even BEGIN to go into that. Ridiculous. :-(

That said, the real villain behind this civil war is killed when rescuing Anora. Finally gutting Arl Howe gave me a sense of satisfaction I haven't felt since I beat Jon Irenicus for the first time in BG2.

You feel so good about killing Howe but you mock Alistair for wanting to kill Loghain ?
So consistent !

Agree with the rest, though. It's pretty tiring to have clichés-fest with duels being the real deciding factor. Why do they even bother to have laws and Landsmeet in the first place ?

[sagevallant]

fkirenicus wrote...

The Landsmeet dialog options are unfortunately far below the standard in the game.
I feel ripped off - so, I went to hell and back (more or less literally) to gather evidence against the madman, and STILL I have to fight him in order to get the Landsmeet support - even though they rally behind me 4 or 5 to 1?

And Alistair... I won't even BEGIN to go into that. Ridiculous. :-(

That said, the real villain behind this civil war is killed when rescuing Anora. Finally gutting Arl Howe gave me a sense of satisfaction I haven't felt since I beat Jon Irenicus for the first time in BG2.

Having the Landsmeet side with you means nothing once you're bleeding out on the floor. Which would be Loghain's goal; he's an old soldier, remember? You shouldn't expect anything less. "Think you're more fit than me to lead? Come here and prove it." And really, once you do, if you take him into your party (byebye, Alistair >_< ) he's really not a bad guy. Like you said, Howe was the bad guy and he's dead. Loghain probably didn't even KNOW half the stuff Howe was up to. What he did know was dismissable as "for the sake of the nation."

[MatronAdena]

The two times I've done it, in both counts the lords were all on my side " but the one". ( even his lil right hand woman was on my side once the meet started)  There was no huge brawl, as I got Loghain into a duel. In both counts ( as a dailish warrior, and a city elf rogue) had no problem wiping the floor with him in a matter of seconds. ( being about level 18, or 19 at that point)

In the first run through I had Alister "set up" to marry anora, but made the mistake of letting him kill Loghain, so I chose Anora...Second run, I made the killing blow myself, and now the throne was a king, AND a queen As it goes with the landmeet in general there are a few tips:

Make sure you get good evidence against Loghain before the meet, saving that lords son in the dungeon etc...secondly be as diplomatic as possible, Leave the wardens in general out of it, focus on Loghain's obsessions with Orillian invasions rather than a blight, slavery, kidnapping, etc and the lords should overwhelmingly support the Warden.

Modifié par MatronAdena, 27 novembre 2009 - 10:46 .

[SeanMurphy2]

I did not like that the duel was inevitable for people who won the Landsmeet. I thought it was cool how you could win politically.



I think it was designed like that because people expect to be able to fight and beat the main villain.



Also I think it is a bit strange that you can overwhelmingly lose the Landsmeet politically. But then kill Loghain in a duel to take power. I wonder if the story could have branched out differently depending on whether you won the Landsmeet. Such as Loghain becoming King and you make temporary peace with him to defeat the Blight together.