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Game starts just few hours after Suicide Mission close to fuel station near Omega.

Normandy XO( Miranda>Jacob>Garrus...) tells you that Normandy is almost in fuel station in Captian Quarters and Shepard responses with choosen dialogue while he is in bathroom.
XO leaves and then camera is going to the mirror to see Shepard's reflection and then we have character creation.

After that you talk to to surviving crew( Joker and EDI are minimal) and leave Normandy.

Once you leave you talk to Batarian owner of fuel station and ask you what to do with Normandy and then game gives you tutorial how to repair Normandy, upgrade it and customize it.
After that owner of fuel station tell you to wait day or two to complete repairs and customize ship( you can't upgrade ship now).


Then you go to talk with squadmates.

Some characters say that they will leave and those are:

Zaeed - he done his job and he will try to get Vido and becouse of Reapers try to took over Blue Suns or if you killed Vido just try to take over Blue Suns or if he isn't loyal he would just leave.

Very low possibility to stay but cameo and side quest very possible


Kasumi - she went in hiding if has greybox or just say goodbye and leave if you destroy greybox( she is still loyal if you destroy it)

Very low possibility to stay if she has greybox but cameo or even important quest very possible. Greybox destroyed low possibility to stay and cameo


Samara - went to seek injustice but promises to help in future( Paragon) or just not to kill Shep( Renegade) and/or try to find Morinth if you scared her away in loyalty mission

Very low possibility to stay. Might possible to recruite later and LI if you try romance with her in ME2. Cameo and side quest very possible


Morinth - she just leaves with no goodbye

Extremely low possibility to stay and cameo


Thane - he decides to retire and went back on Hanar homeworld since he will die long before Reapers will come

Low possibility to stay but very possible cameo. For side quest low possibility


Possible to leave:

Tali - got message that she is elected for admiral and say to Shep it would be better if she leaves so he/she can have guarantee Quarian help against Reapers

Got nothing on if she is unloyal and survive
High possibility to stay if not cameo and important side quest are must go!


Grunt - say to Shep that he should get back on Tuchanka to help clan Urdnot

Got nothing if he is unloyal and survive
High possibility to stay if not cameo and important side quest are must go!


Character that wouldn't make sense to leave if didn't die:

Garrus( infiltrator) - no reason to leave loyal or unloyal
Legion( engineer) - no reason to leave loyal or unloyal
Jacob( sentinel) - no reason to leave loyal or unloyal
Miranda( sentinel) - no reason to leave loyal or unloyal
Jack( adept) - no reason to leave loyal but unloyal questionable
Mordin( engineer and scientist, might not be selectable though) - no reason to leave loyal or unloyal



After that you gain two new squadmates in case that none of them didn't survive and later gain 4 more to have Soldier, Inflitrator, Vanguard, Adept, Sentinel and Engineer( for balance) or get them right away but with good explenation for plot.


Blog#1: How should ME3 start, in Normandy
Blog#2: How shoulds ME3 start, in Station part 1

UPDATE#1 13.07.2010.
UPDATE#2 23.07.2010.
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UPDATE#4 31.07.2010
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Idea dumped, besides reasons why should some characters leave.

Modifié par Mesina2, 20 novembre 2010 - 10:25 .


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I agree with everything except:



-TALI STAYS. END OF DISCUSSION



-Zaeed is cool and I wish they'd make up a reason for him to stay\\re-join



-Kasumi is cool and I could see her sticking around "for the heck of it"



-Jack is nuts, I could see her running off



-Mordin primarily wants to do research and as such might want to retire from combat



-Jacob to me is a pretty weak character and would be a waste of a slot in ME3



-Miranda was always annoying to me, so meh to her





To me, they sure has hell better have Tali and Garrus, seeing as they're the only real constant through the series. And it would be awesome if they had Zaheed and Kasumi because they are cool characters as well as squadmates.

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That actually makes sense. I think Grunt would come back because he is looking for the best fight and that would be the Reapers. I think he would go to help out Wrex afterwards. I have to believe that Ashley or Kaiden will be back and maybe Liara.

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The Normandy 2 is destroyed and there is only one escape pod left. You and only two squad mates can fit into it and you must pick who to take.



No, that's not how I want it to start but I kind of wouldn't be surprised...

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Miranda stays, or else!



On topic, it's gonna start off with Shep making love to his/her current LI when there is a knock at the door. "Who the hell could that be?" he/she asks, when Shep opens the door, a Reaper is standing in front of him. Shep slowly closes the door, and secures every lock on it. "Who was that?" the LI asks, Shep turns around, "Lets just say its time for the third game" Fades to black, Mass Effect 3 title pans in.

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Docbrown777 wrote...

The Normandy 2 is destroyed and there is only one escape pod left. You and only two squad mates can fit into it and you must pick who to take.

No, that's not how I want it to start but I kind of wouldn't be surprised...


Are you kidding? Tali and Garrus, all the way!

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Miranda and Jacob stay if theiy're alive just because, the same with garrus and Legion because they've got nothing more important going on. I could see Tali leaving to be an admiral, or declining so she may stay to aid Shepard fight the reapers. samara could stay because there's no greater injustice and genocide or May give shepard a head start (for a renegades), Mordin would probably stay for the chance to study Repaer technology after Shepard blows one up. Grunt would also be more likely to stay since Shepard is his battel master and I doubt he'd pass up the chance to fight an "imortal race of sentient Machines" Zaeed and Kasumi may go because they had jobs before joining Sheaprds crew and Jack may stay because Shepard lets her kill people. Thane will want to spend more time with Kolyat if he's not romanced so he heads back to the citadel. I can see Ash/Kaiden rejoining Shepard , especially if they gave Cerberus the finger ad blew the base up. and they might need some convincing if they didn't and kept the base. i can see ME3 starting with Shepard jamming the data pad Joker gave him/her before the credits down the turian counilor's throat saying "AH YES PROOF THE THING I'M BEATING YOU OVER THE HEAD WITH!" jsut kidding but presenting it to the council going "I effin told you so, so get over here and kiss my boots."

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I now one thing Reapers are coming so Garrus ain't goin nowhere.

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Jack is a vangaurd actually.

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It starts a few years later,the reaper invasion has begun,the citadel has been evacuated,humanity is losing and shepard is once again a well known hero,during the course of the game your filled in on what happened between then and the suicide mission(maybe through audio logs?)

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Sursion wrote...

Jack is a vangaurd actually.


She can be either depending on how your upgrade her.

And I think I'd like it to start like this:
http://social.biowar...5/index/1265772

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Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Sursion wrote...

Jack is a vangaurd actually.


She can be either depending on how your upgrade her.


She can learn warp ammo. Ammo powers are listed as combat. Therefore she would have both combat and biotic powers, making her a vangaurd. It also fits with the whole '2 of everything' they were going with.

Anyways, I want Legion breaking Shepard out of a council prison or something, and then I can make him my second in command <3

And we can travel the galaxy, righting wrongs and destroying the reapers!

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This is all fine for story's sake, but for game's sake, everybody goes. Even Miranda. I would expect Grunt, Garrus, and Tali to come back via crew recruiting. Thane will leave as he's dying. Miranda I would expect to get her own ship, which could become part of a plot twist (rescue Miranda or Miranda's ship comes in the nick of time to save Sheppard). Jack needs to find herself. The justice needs to go out justicing. Mordin will be gone off researching. Jacob was a supporting character, mostly, so I expect him to leave. Zaeed has another job and really wasn't that interesting. The thief has theiving to do. As for grunt, I think it would be hard for BW to come up with another way to recruit a Krogan. That's why he'd stay.



Really, how much of a story would it be if you already knew all of the characters? And what's the point of bringing back Miranda and thus eliminating a love quest?

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I would think the Squad stuff would go like this.

Zaeed - LEAVES - He's a mercenary who was only working for the money, he wasn't going to stick around.

Legion - STAYS - Legions' long term goal is to oppose the old machines like Shepard so he'd probably stay.

Samara - LEAVES - Justicars still have work to do. She'd probably return to Asari space to seek out the corrupt.

Tali - UNSURE, COULD DEPEND ON LOYALTY/EXILE/ROMANCE - If she's exiled, she probably would stay with Shepard having no where else to go. If she was not exiled and she was unloyal, she would most likely return to the Flotilla. If she has loyalty but she's not exiled, she MIGHT stay; it depends on further situation. If she was romanced, there would be a high chance she would stay.

MordinUNSURE, DEPENDS ON FURTHER WORK - If Mordin has no long term projects that require leaving the Normandy, he would most likely stay. Being loyal to Shepard n' all.

Garrus - STAYS - Garrus is Shep's buddy, everyone who loves him should know he tries to be Shepard's BFF. And why would he leave? He doesn't have his team of vigilantes anymore.

Miranda - STAYS - No reason to leave.

Grunt - STAYS (or not) - He said himself, Shepard is his Battlemaster. It's unlikely he'd leave soon unless Urdnot asked.

Jacob - STAYS - No reason to leave.

Thane - LEAVES - The guys gonna die in twelve months for Gods' sake he'd rather not spend his final days hanging out with some guy he barely knows. He'd probably want some father-son time with Kolyat.

Jack - LEAVES - She's mentally unstable, and a crimimal. She'd probably just carve something crude at the bottom of the Normandy and escape while nobody's looking.

Kasumi - UNSURE - Good friend of the crew (especially Tali) but she might want to continue her career as a thief.

Modifié par Cra5y Pineapple, 08 juillet 2010 - 12:36 .


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To Cra5y Pineapple:



Samara says that she likes you and will help you if you ever need it. So I definitely think she'll be in ME3.



Also, the Shaman in clan Urdnot sends you an email saying that they need Grunt. He will probably go back to Tuchanka after the suicide mission. That's not to say he won't join you later in the game, however.

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Docbrown777 wrote...

The Normandy 2 is destroyed and there is only one escape pod left. You and only two squad mates can fit into it and you must pick who to take.

No, that's not how I want it to start but I kind of wouldn't be surprised...


Garrus and Legion. Then we go pick up wrex in our escape pod and charge the reapers head on and save the galaxy.

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Im not going to take full credit for this because i saw someone mention this idea on the forums before, but i think it would be amazing if ME3 started with a flashback to th events of Shepards past that you chose for him/her.  This will fleshout Shepards character, adding depth, and showing you what shaped him/her into the person they have ultimately become in ME3.

Showing and playing the victory of the Skillian Blitz, and the honors placed about Shep and the choices he had to make to achieve victory (there are plenty of ways to implement paragon and renegade choices here) or the slaughter at Akuze, and the inhuman amount of pain and suffering he had to withstand as his entire unit fell around him/her (even more chances for good renegade and paragon choices).

THis could all be a dream or flashback type scene, and once that is over, the MASS EFFECT 3 title can be shown, then it can pick up where the TC started.  I dunno, i just feel it would add a great deal more weight ro Shepards character, and offer a lot of insight into what made Shep into the person he/she is presently.

Modifié par XavierHollywood, 08 juillet 2010 - 02:07 .


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I think the reapers will have already invaded the Galaxy and the Normandy SR-2 will be one of the only remaining vessels left. Then I think Shepard will incorporate EDI into his armor just in case the Normandy blows up. I then expect the Normandy to be ambushed by a reaper and the crew evacuates on to an unknown planet with a ring around it. While investigating this unknown planet he will find old Prothean technology that requires a key to activate this unknown ring that is actually a super weapon to take out the Reapers. Then I expect Shepard to find a crashed ship with the name Pillar of Autumn on the side...



Okay I'm done trolling.

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I don't know how Bioware will deal with it or make the new story. but grunt won't leave because shepard is his battle master. without special permission, Grunt can't just leave him. Tali? if she was exile in ME2, it would be impossible. if she wasn't, it would be possible. Jack will leave without reason since she stops talking to Shepard. yeah, Samara, Thane will leave. Zaeed just finished contract. so he will leave. Shepard still need research for Reaper, and Collector much deeper. so he needs Mordin. Miranda, Jacob is Cerberus members, since suicidal mission, they have strong trust on Shepard. so they will stay forever. if you made a love with Miranda, it is inevitable. she will stay with you no matter where you go.

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Actually the only way ME3 should start,.............wait for it, the way Bioware wrote it.

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Mesina2 wrote...

Game starts just few hours after Suicide Mission on fuel station near Omega.

That's not gonna happen. From lots of clues in ME2, ME3 will be set at least a year after ME2

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Cra5y Pineapple wrote...

I would think the Squad stuff would go like this.

Zaeed - LEAVES - He's a mercenary who was only working for the money, he wasn't going to stick around.

Legion - STAYS - Legions' long term goal is to oppose the old machines like Shepard so he'd probably stay.

Samara - LEAVES - Justicars still have work to do. She'd probably return to Asari space to seek out the corrupt.

Tali - UNSURE, COULD DEPEND ON LOYALTY/EXILE/ROMANCE - If she's exiled, she probably would stay with Shepard having no where else to go. If she was not exiled and she was unloyal, she would most likely return to the Flotilla. If she has loyalty but she's not exiled, she MIGHT stay; it depends on further situation. If she was romanced, there would be a high chance she would stay.

MordinUNSURE, DEPENDS ON FURTHER WORK - If Mordin has no long term projects that require leaving the Normandy, he would most likely stay. Being loyal to Shepard n' all.

Garrus - STAYS - Garrus is Shep's buddy, everyone who loves him should know he tries to be Shepard's BFF. And why would he leave? He doesn't have his team of vigilantes anymore.

Miranda - STAYS - No reason to leave.

Grunt - STAYS (or not) - He said himself, Shepard is his Battlemaster. It's unlikely he'd leave soon unless Urdnot asked.

Jacob - STAYS - No reason to leave.

Thane - LEAVES - The guys gonna die in twelve months for Gods' sake he'd rather not spend his final days hanging out with some guy he barely knows. He'd probably want some father-son time with Kolyat.

Jack - LEAVES - She's mentally unstable, and a crimimal. She'd probably just carve something crude at the bottom of the Normandy and escape while nobody's looking.

Kasumi - UNSURE - Good friend of the crew (especially Tali) but she might want to continue her career as a thief.

They're not gonna make some LIs stay and some LIs leave 'cos that would make a lot of people angry (why their LI left and other boring LIs stayed). Either all LIs leave or all LIs stay. It's like that in every BioWare game, they make it equal for everybody

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IMO, the opening cut scene should give the enemy a face. Make some bastard that really motivates you to try to stop him. Fighting faceless reapers is no fun and I think the fact that ME2 didn't have a Saren really sucked alot of the fun of thwarting their plans.

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If Tali is either disloyal/unexiled or unexiled/loyal/unromanced, then she will probably leave under that circumstance. If she is exiled/loyal or romanced, she will most likely stay. If Thane is romanced, he will stay too imo.

If former squaddies were in the ME3 squad, I think the team would be...

AshKai*
Liara
Tali**
Garrus
Miranda**
Jacob
Mordin
Thane***
Jack***
Legion**


*Destroyed the collector base
**Must have loyalty
***Must have romance

Modifié par AdamNW, 08 juillet 2010 - 07:52 .


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AdamNW wrote...

If Tali is either disloyal/unexiled or unexiled/loyal/unromanced, then she will probably leave under that circumstance. If she is exiled/loyal or romanced, she will most likely stay. If Thane is romanced, he will stay too imo.

If former squaddies were in the ME3 squad, I think the team would be...

AshKai*
Liara
Tali**
Garrus
Miranda**
Jacob
Mordin
Thane***
Jack***
Legion**


*Destroyed the collector base
**Must have loyalty
***Must have romance


Legion doesn't need loyalty to stay nor Tali since they can survive unloyal and have nothing better to do.