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If you don't recruit Garrus or Wrex in ME1, how does that affect ME2?


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TheKillerAngel

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Since you end up recruiting Archangel and whatnot. Anybody have an answer?

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The game punches you in the face.

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Kitteh303

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You don't have a choice. I'm pretty sure you MUST recruit them.

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You get a some what different dialogue





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Kitteh303 wrote...

You don't have a choice. I'm pretty sure you MUST recruit them.

You have to recruit one of them, but not both.

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I magically appear behind you and strangle you with my bare hands. Or someone beats you to death with a pole. Or a T-Wrex would come out of nowhere and devour you.



Doesn't that sound pleasant?

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Collider wrote...

Kitteh303 wrote...

You don't have a choice. I'm pretty sure you MUST recruit them.

You have to recruit one of them, but not both.


Huh. Never knew that. Well I don't see any point in not recruiting one of them, but to each their own.

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If you don't recruit Wrex (and keep him alive), he won't appear in ME2. Instead, you meet his broodbrother Wreav in control of Clan Urdnot. And rather than trying to unite the krogan clans, Wreav takes the usual annihilate the enemies approach. Lord High Researcher Fortack seems to be a lot happier with Wreav...

If you don't recruit Garrus, the dialogue changes when you meet him on Omega. You recognize him, he recognizes you and that's about it. However, all the other dialogue from that point on will be the same, as if you guys had your past adventures together.

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Pacifien, does the default story in ME2 have Wrex recruited and killed, or not recruited at all? I'm guessing the latter, right?



However, all the other dialogue from that point on will be the same, as if you guys had your past adventures together.


Which is really strange.

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Collider wrote...
Pacifien, does the default story in ME2 have Wrex recruited and killed, or not recruited at all? I'm guessing the latter, right?

If I remember correctly, Wreav mentions Wrex dying on Virmire on the default playthrough. Think he thanks Shepard for killing him even.

Hmm. If you do an ME1 import where you don't recruit Wrex at all, I wonder if Wreav's dialogue changes or if it's like the incongruous dialogue for an unrecruited Garrus.

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If you don't recruit him at all I don't think he even gets a mention.



>.>



<.<



Or so I heard.

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Pacifien wrote...

Collider wrote...
Pacifien, does the default story in ME2 have Wrex recruited and killed, or not recruited at all? I'm guessing the latter, right?

If I remember correctly, Wreav mentions Wrex dying on Virmire on the default playthrough. Think he thanks Shepard for killing him even.

Strange. You'd think they'd just have Shepard not recruit Wrex to avoid references. Then again, you have to recruit Garrus or Wrex in ME1...guess they just chose Wrex.

Hmm. If you do an ME1 import where you don't recruit Wrex at all, I wonder if Wreav's dialogue changes or if it's like the incongruous dialogue for an unrecruited Garrus.

I hope it changes.
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Also, it seems like the only way not to recruit Wrex is essentially to be racist. Shepard says something like "I don't want a Krogan on my team," IIRC.

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whootsley2

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you cant, not recruit garrus and wrex

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whootsley2 wrote...

you cant, not recruit garrus and wrex

False. You can choose not to recruit one of them.

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You must recruit one or the other in ME1, but it's possible not to recruit both.

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Collider wrote...

The game punches you in the face.


Win!

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I'm sure Bioware was so sure you'd at least recruit Garrus that they didnt think to bother with a whole new line of dialogue for him.



Also, the whole point of his character development in ME2 is that he's become more bitter and violent than in ME1. It's kinda hard to capture that element of his character if you treat him and Shepard as being total strangers, so I can understand why Bioware would just avoid that issue altogether and treat it like you two knew each other no matter what.

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If you didn't recruit Garrus in ME1, it changes a few pieces of dialogue. For instance, instead of saying that Being part of the team that took down Saren earned him some points with the Cerberus crew, he says they're no worse than the criminals he dealt with while in CSec. Joker doesn't talk about how Garrus has worked that stick out of his ass, because he never met him. Instead he says something like:



"The Turian's a hardass, Commander. Kinda redundant if you ask me." On account of the scaly ass, I'm guessing.



Your ME1 Paragon/Renegade choice for Garrus changes a little dialogue regarding what he plans to do to Sidonus. Sparing Dr Saleon has Garrus saying "I know you don't like it", while killing Saleon but doubting that Sidonus needs to die leads Garrus to say "I'm surprised you'd think that, since you're the one who showed me the value of killing" or something along those lines.



But his actions on Omega, IMHO, are compatible with either Paragon or Renegade ME1 choices. Yes he decided to work outside CSec, but he had already done that by being on the Normandy SR1. What was important was that despite being outside the law and unaccountable, he kept himself above the criminals by following a code - no civilians, no collateral, that was their rule. That meshes with the Paragon conversations in ME1 "If you don't care about the hostages you're no better than he is".

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If you don't recruit Wrex then he died sometime between Mass Effect 1 and Mass Effect 2.

I also think Wreav won't mention him but I haven't tested it in awhile.

Modifié par mrsph, 19 juillet 2010 - 10:05 .