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[Turian L0RD]

I honestly hope i am not the only one that noticed this,but look at TIMs eyes,they have that kinda weird bluish tinge and cyberntic look just like Saren had,anyone ever think that TIMs whole Crusade on the reapers was a cover and he is in fact an indoctrinated servant as was Saren,yet on a lower key level,less deteriation over time so he doesnt go off hsi rocker like saren did.Idk maybe im just overspecualting but this is what i thought through the whole game the moment i saw TIMs eyes.

[CroGamer002]

Or he is that destroyed Reaper in IFF mission that took over Illusive Man that wants revenge over other Reapers and rule galaxy!!!!!!!

[Alithinos]

Very interesting idea.

If this was true,then a lot of thing would be explained.

Perhaps he sent Shepard at the first Collector ship,to hand him over to the collectors.

Or he may sent him through the Omega4 to the reaper,to destroy it in purpose of activating some kind of distress signal that Reapers are under attack,in order to wake up the other reapers that we are told at ME1 that they are "sleeping" to maintain power,and at the end of ME2 we see them all wake up while we have stopped the keepers from transmitting the "wake up" signal.

Hmm....

[CroGamer002]

Wouldn't be easier just give body to Collectors instead of resurrecting him?

[Alithinos]

Mesina2 wrote...

Wouldn't be easier just give body to Collectors instead of resurrecting him?

And then Shepard would just be dead..
But how the Reapers would wake ?
At ME1 you clearly learn that all the reapers except Sovereign are sleeping,and that someone has to activate the Citadel's mechanism to wake them up.
At ME2 we saw the fleet of the Reapers travelling,but we didn't learned how they where awaken.
If the ship had an emergency mechanism to send emergency wake up call to the reapers,that would explain why we saw the reapers awake,and also the scenario that the Illusive man was really a servant.
But do you (or any) have another idea for the reason the Illusive man's eyes where like that ?

[mosor]

He just has cybernetic eyes. I don't think his eyes have much bearing with the reapers.

Though you have to wonder how the reapers got info that Ashley/Kaiden was on horizon, or how Cerberus picked up the collector distress beacon before any other bigger powers did.

[Boradam]

I actually was thinking this a week ago...

[Fedowyn]

Or his eyes were badly damaged at some point in his life and he needed cybernetic implants?

geez... you people and your conspiricy theories.

[Kingcalmacrazy]

I agree with Fedowyn, his eyes where prob damaged bye a fire or something.

[Docbrown777]

I don't see him being a Reaper agent at all. In fact I don't want to see that.



He's a great character without adding any Reaper indoctrination stuff. TIM is a guy with lofty goals but less then clean tactics to get to those goals. Also, his reach for those goals will be shown to obscure what the true goals needs to be (the defense of the entire galaxy and not just the defense and prosperity of humans).

[LorDC]

Well, if you look at Shepard's eyes at full Renegade without surgery you will see the same "implant" thing TIM has. So by OP's logic Shepard is Reapers' servant too.

Sometimes eye implants are just eye implants.

And my thoughts were exactly opposite. Look Renegade=red, Paragon=blue. Renegade Shepard has red implants. And TIM has blue implants so I assumed that he is Paragon(deep in his heart).

This stuff works both ways.

[Caesar914]

Lately I've been wondering about renegade Shepard's cybernetic eye implants. I wonder if they're not actually surveillance devices so TIM can see what Shep sees. Besides his cameras already on the Normandy along with EDI it would let him see stuff outside the ship as well and know everything Shepard does. Wouldn't be as effective as a control chip like Miranda wanted but information is power. And also it could be used as a plot device in ME3. Say that in your story you turn your back on Cerberus, in ME3 you want to get rid of all TIM's cameras on the Normandy, he can still be watching, in secret oooooh..

[Spornicus]

Why would TIM dispatch a team to wipe out a slave race of the reapers and a reaper larva?



More likely his eyes are messed up to distinguish himself from Armistan Banes...

[Combine08]

*Mumbles quietly* Not again

That claim may be interesting but makes no sense.

If TIM = Reaper affiliated then Shepard = dead

They wouldn't resurrect him. Besides it's SCI-FI they have eye modifications n' stuff...like renegade Shepard.

Also, @ a few posts above regarding the end and Reapers.

The Reapers were "activated" because you destroyed the last (at least major) "hand" (collectors) of the Reapers in the galaxy. Harbinger (A Reaper in dark space) was controlling the Collector General who was in charge of the whole operation to finish the human Reaper. That means the Reaper was aware on what happened to slaves. In the end we can see how the collector general is released from Harbinger's control (no more glowing eyes). The Reapers were then activated by Harbinger to make their way to the galaxy on their own because the human reaper and collectors were destroyed, making the Reapers unable to to act directly in the galaxy. Not sure what the human reaper was supposed to do, maybe lead another attack on the Citadel to open the portal.

Now with that in mind, it wouldn't make sense if TIM would be working for them instead because that would totally foil their plans as we can see. They have no more servants in the Galaxy who can influence things and their plan failed so they invade directly, and they have to make their way to the milky way on their own which will take some time.

So yeah...

TIM is not working for the Reapers.

Modifié par Combine08, 09 juillet 2010 - 10:19 .

[The Unfallen]

He may not be a servant of the Reapers, but Paragon characters can guarantee to have him as a major antagonist in Mass Effect 3.

[FuturePasTimeCE]

Combine08 wrote...

*Mumbles quietly* Not again

That claim may be interesting but makes no sense.

If TIM = Reaper affiliated then Shepard = dead

They wouldn't resurrect him. Besides it's SCI-FI they have eye modifications n' stuff...like renegade Shepard.

Also, @ a few posts above regarding the end and Reapers.

The Reapers were "activated" because you destroyed the last (at least major) "hand" (collectors) of the Reapers in the galaxy. Harbinger (A Reaper in dark space) was controlling the Collector General who was in charge of the whole operation to finish the human Reaper. That means the Reaper was aware on what happened to slaves. In the end we can see how the collector general is released from Harbinger's control (no more glowing eyes). The Reapers were then activated by Harbinger to make their way to the galaxy on their own because the human reaper and collectors were destroyed, making the Reapers unable to to act directly in the galaxy. Not sure what the human reaper was supposed to do, maybe lead another attack on the Citadel to open the portal.

Now with that in mind, it wouldn't make sense if TIM would be working for them instead because that would totally foil their plans as we can see. They have no more servants in the Galaxy who can influence things and their plan failed so they invade directly, and they have to make their way to the milky way on their own which will take some time.

So yeah...

TIM is not working for the Reapers.

"preserve sheppard's body if you can> I know you feel this sheppard, true powaaa.", collector dude

[BlackyBlack]

Oh please stop with these stupid ideas, I'm really glad none of you are writing ME3

[mosor]

mrsph wrote...

mosor wrote...

He just has cybernetic eyes. I don't think his eyes have much bearing with the reapers.
Though you have to wonder how the reapers got info that Ashley/Kaiden was on horizon, or how Cerberus picked up the collector distress beacon before any other bigger powers did.

TIM flat-out tells you that he purposefully let it slip that Shepard was alive and that he knew they would probably target Horizon because of Ashley/Kaidan being there.

I know that, but to who? And how would he know to wich person to say this to so the info gets to the collectors in a timely manner? Someone must be feeding info to the collectors/reapers.

[angj57]

I thought that it would go this way when it looked like he set Shepard up on the Collector ship. But I also buy his explanation that it was the best way of securing information. In the end, I don't think it would make sense. If he worked for the Reapers, he could have built protocols into EDI to insure that the Normandy crew would fail their mission.

[TeffexPope]

I'm surprised we haven't heard this before guys...really..this is seriously the very first popular conspiracy that was circulated about ME2. And I have to say, it makes NO sense. TIM is just an arrogant racist, who thinks he and his organization can do anything. (I also doubt he would be doing tests WITH Reaper technology on someone - like the plot of the new book coming out soon). But as Samara points out - "He thinks he has the wisdom to use the base....but he does not".

[mosor]

TeffexPope wrote...

I'm surprised we haven't heard this before guys...really..this is seriously the very first popular conspiracy that was circulated about ME2. And I have to say, it makes NO sense. TIM is just an arrogant racist, who thinks he and his organization can do anything. (I also doubt he would be doing tests WITH Reaper technology on someone - like the plot of the new book coming out soon). But as Samara points out - "He thinks he has the wisdom to use the base....but he does not".

There isn't any evidence that TIM is a racist. What TIM wants is power and security for humanity. That's not the same thing as racism.

[Barquiel]

I think the Shadow Broker could be a reaper agent, but not TIM.
He's just an evil racist megalomaniac^_^

[pvt_java]

 Why in god's name would an indoctrinated slave want to purposely: 

-Destroy the Collectors

-Foil Harbringer's Plan

More importantly, Saren in ME1 talks about organic lifeforms as if we were dirt, and proceeds to try to become a cyborg/machine.

-How could TIMmy be an indoctrinated slave if he only had robotic eyes? That makes less sense than the human-reaper larva.