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Marketing DA2: Is featuring a female player character really impossible?


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WilliamShatner

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Godkarl wrote...

Also Darth Jayder, Mirror's Edge and Dragon Age are two completely different games, one has a deep emotional story that is intense and very consistent; the other is a drab action game that had me losing interest due to its shallowness.


Come on, Dragon Age wasn't that shallow.  Visually drab, I'll give you.

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If the game was about complaining a female would be on the cover.

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Errol Dnamyx

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Stop complaining and make me a sammich.

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Drasill wrote...

If the game was about complaining a female would be on the cover.

Lame troll attempt.....Image IPB

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Mystranna Kelteel

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Malsumis wrote...
Obviously it does, otherwise you wouldn't be getting angry about female gamers not getting represented on a game cover again.


LMAO! Thanks for proving that you've not read this thread. :lol:
This has nothing to do with the cover.  

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Mystranna Kelteel wrote...

Kefkaesque wrote...
Name a game that sold really well with a female main character or with a girl as the focus of advertising.

Do you honestly believe that Bioware is evil and trying to put women down?  They just want to sell games, they're a business.


Final Fantasy 13, any of the Metroid games, Heavenly Sword sold pretty well, Tomb Raider is still a big-named franchise, but you only said to name one.

If BioWare was "trying to put women down" then there wouldn't be a female option at all. What I'm saying is that BioWare is lazy to "go with the crowd" and put forth yet another grizzled white dude out there while at the same time completely ignoring the fact that they allow you to customize your character.


...Okay you got me there haha, I'm just saying their advertising unit is going with what they think will appeal the most to the general audience.  Maybe they're wrong, but the majority (I guess I can't say all) of the best selling games do focus on the "tough guy", and I'd say at least it's probably much easier.

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Kefkaesque wrote...

Name a game that sold really well with a female main character or with a girl as the focus of advertising.

(..)

Okay, so advertising can work if you completely objectify the female character, do you honestly like/want that?

That's moving the goal posts quite a bit, isn't it? But considering it is absolutely no different from "objectifying the male character" when they are made the focus of advertising, yes. I'd rather see more of equal opportunity glamour shots than nothing but series of generic, rugged beefcakes.

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Atomic Space Vixen wrote...

250poundbeefcake wrote...

In this thread: Feminists getting angry their not being equally represented on the cover art of a video game. LOL.

I don't normally get picky about these things, but there is at least one feminist reading this who knows the difference between "their" and "they're".

milkabi wrote...

Why is anyone with an opinion that females don't get enough (or at all) marketing being branded a feminist?

"Branded" a feminist? Only if one sees "feminist" as an insult. I refuse to do so and wear the label proudly.

Godkarl wrote...


It is the people who make the games' oppinion to choose a male on the
cover, why because the most important character in the game is a man. 
Plain and Simple

Hey! How did you get inside information on the game? So the PC (who can be either male or female) is not the most important character in the game? Now I'm curious who this most important character is!


Thank you - I've been wondering about feminist being an insult too -  A we back to the 19 century all of a sudden ?

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First off, ignore the idiots making sexist statements. They aren't being serious, they're just being [donkeys]. Replying would be a waste of time.



My personal opinion of the "marketing" is that it's just marketing and has little effect on what the game actually ends up being. ME had zero marketing for a female character, but the female had all the same gameplay.



You're already here reading about the game. You don't need the marketing. You don't need to let the marketing bother you if you don't want it to. If you say the marketing is insulting, or if you say the marketing doesn't mean anything, either way you're right.

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Drasill wrote...

If the game was about complaining a female would be on the cover.

Oh please.

#286
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But seriously, its harder to picture a badass female than it is to picture a badass male.

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Ethan Myke Hawke y'all!

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So now we are feminatsis for wanting a little more representation in the marketing? My gawd, people are dumb.

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Errol Dnamyx wrote...

Stop complaining and make me a sammich.


Hahah, now I'm imagining Don Draper saying it and it's just perfect.

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Drasill wrote...

But seriously, its harder to picture a badass female than it is to picture a badass male.


Not really. There's Ellen Ripley for one.

Modifié par Damsel of Distress, 08 juillet 2010 - 08:31 .


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Shavon wrote...

So now we are feminatsis for wanting a little more representation in the marketing? My gawd, people are dumb.

Don't you sometimes wish the Darkspawn or the Reapers would win?

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You only just figured that one out Shav? lol



This whole site is full or moronic, childish, repressed 10 year old trolls, you dont need Sherlock Holmes to work that one out for you, LARRY godamn Holmes could figure it out :P hehehe

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Errol Dnamyx wrote...

Stop complaining and make me a sammich.


Turkey or ham, hun?

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Ladies, your posts make us guys look like a bunch of sexists and chauvinists.:crying:

Modifié par Avalla'ch, 08 juillet 2010 - 08:32 .


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The bottom line is they are using a guy as the face for the game so might as well deal with it and move on.

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Errol Dnamyx

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Isabelle Mortello wrote...

Errol Dnamyx wrote...

Stop complaining and make me a sammich.


Turkey or ham, hun?


Yes, one of each.

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Drasill wrote...

The bottom line is they are using a guy as the face for the game so might as well deal with it and move on.

Fine...so stop posting in this thread.

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Female video game characters > Male video game characters. It's just that the stereotypical image of a video game player is a nerdy man, so the marketing devisions try to cater to that stereotype.

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Drasill wrote...

The bottom line is they are using a guy as the face for the game so might as well deal with it and move on.

or complain and have bioware realize that they don't need one iconic main character and they should tout their customization features

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I'm reporting the sexist comments to the moderators. Just giving forewarning here.