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[BizelBerg]

Relshar wrote...

Suron wrote...

Victor Wachter wrote...

Wolf--Shadow wrote...

Oh, so everything that was established in DAO is now pointless?
And Bioware has decided to take one step forward and three steps back?
 

DA:O is far from pointless, as you'll learn when you play DA2.

I've talked with Design quite a bit about Hawke, the DA2 lead character. There were a lot of directions that they could have gone, but ultimately, I think they made the right choice to tell the best story in this installment. Between now and launch, you'll learn more about Hawke and the story, which will shed a little more light on why Hawke was the hero that the world (i.e. this story) needed.

HAH! HAHAHAHAHA!

yah..you're turning it into a Mass Effect bite-off....Hawke? seriously? so now we're shoe-horned into this ****** like Shepard..and you're only allowing us to choose male or female..WOW..sounds EXACTLY like Shepard.

do you people have any creative talent left in you?  you REALLY think turning Dragon Age into Mass Effect with swords is a ****ing good thing?

whatever you want to tell youself "dudebro"

All of BioWares creative talent vanished when EA took them over. Its now all gone to work for CCP who makes Eve Online.

There games are just as good as their older titles if not better. So far Mass Effect has been one of the
greatest science fiction gameto come out in a long time. The story becomes better with each installment and the world becomes bigger and more developed with each game.
Dragon Age was a wonderful piece of story telling with compelling characters. Why would the previous story not matter? The main chacter is going to be a survivor of the blight.

Why don't you wait until the game is explained a bit for you decide you need to start
bashing them for a decision you don't like. You act like its the worst game ever to come out even though all we know are minor details and who the main character is. If you have such a hatred
for the games they make why are you even on the forum. Bioware has
always created games with incredibly compelling characters and story.
If they think this will make the game a better narrative then the first then I am all for it. I have no reason to doubt them.

Modifié par BizelBerg, 08 juillet 2010 - 06:48 .

[ClaymoreBR]

Great!



Hope to see a story so deep as ME2. Not that DA:O didn't have one, don't get me wrong =P

[NatOreN]

I'm getting a bit confused about the name. After reading through the thread I got the idea that Hawke is the surname and players will, of course, be able to make a first name. Yet I keep getting the impression that this is quite the opposite and Hawke is either the first name or a first name will not be available and the character will simply be known as Hawke and nothing more.



Maybe I read something wrong or am just being incredibly daft, but could someone clarify this for me?

[Melmo44]

Well I'm excited for this for sure! I'd love to see the world of Thedas expanded, and the difference in navigating it as a non-Warden (not to say I won't miss my Warden, especially my fem!Aeducan).

However, I can see why the character you play would be human. Humans are the dominant race in Thedas, for one. Second, the only reason the other races got involved in DA:O was because it was a Blight. The Dwarves don't really care about the surface, they've got problems and politicking of their own. The Dalish wouldn't get involved with humanity either, and the City Elves are too oppressed to do much.
Either way, we definitely need more information before any judgment can be made about this game. I mean, it was only announced today! There isn't exactly a lot of details available, much less context of how they fit into the story/game.
So I'm excited. Can't wait for the trailer and/or any other news about this! But that's just my two coppers.

Modifié par Melmo44, 08 juillet 2010 - 06:59 .

[sage_viper]

Vicious wrote...

PLOT HOLE DETECTED!

Morrigan got away with it. Conner nearly did. Stop being a ******.

Yeah, but she lived in the Wilds, where nobody but Chasind lived, and they were just scared. This is a guy probably living in a populated area where the Templar had a presence.

And Connor* -or is it Conor?- (funny, I thought you somehow new my name, because it's Conner, and I was creeped out) almost got away with it because the Arlessa was rich and could use money to keep it secret. 

Saivar wrote...

I'm getting a bit confused about the name. After reading through the thread I got the idea that Hawke is the surname and players will, of course, be able to make a first name. Yet I keep getting the impression that this is quite the opposite and Hawke is either the first name or a first name will not be available and the character will simply be known as Hawke and nothing more.

Maybe I read something wrong or am just being incredibly daft, but could someone clarify this for me?

From what we know, it IS a surname, but we're just referring to the character as Hawke the same way people in ME refer to Shepherd as such.

Modifié par sage_viper, 08 juillet 2010 - 06:59 .

[Fangirl17]

I really,REALLY hope its not going to be more like ME2. A fully voiced character? That seem s SOO limiting. I hate it.I felt so unattatched to my Shepard in ME2. BUT its not confirmed at all that the character will be fully voiced,though i wouldnt doubt it,it seems highly possible.



Ok about the no races,Im ok with it as long as I can completely customize how my character looks. There better be an awesome character creator with no other races and all. If you think about it,this could be a really good thing. With all of the focus on one race they can make more various versions of armor and weapons.



Ugh Im just SO worried that they are going to make it more like ME2. I didnt feel like Shepard was MY character at all,you know what I mean? Oh and limited interaction with your companions would be horrible as well. Having to wait for a certain thing to happen to talk to your companion like in ME2 would be disappointing to me Okok done ranting. Those are my major conserns so far.

[Grim_Phandango]

I don't really mind the removal of elves and dwarves to be honest. It's been mentioned, but Dragon Age really felt like it was meant to be played as a human noble, as their origin seemed to have the most impact on the game itself. This may be just misremembering things, however, as I've not played through the game in some time.



As for Dragon Age 2, if Bioware is really going the Shepard route with the Main Character, I hope the guy on the cover is either the default or creatable, as he looks more or less the way I tried to make my first, and favorite, Dragon Age character. The talk of new "dynamic" combat concerns me a bit, as I thought that was perhaps one of Dragon Age's best aspects, but I'll wait to see more before getting all up in arms.



Seriously people, two pictures and a bit of information are no reason to get your knickers in a twist. At least wait until there is more information, perhaps a video or two, before writing the game's obituary.

[Y-C-C]

I honestly don't understand the hate. DA:O's strengths were not the origins story. They were simply... good storytelling. Locking to a single character background allows for it to much better fit the bigger story.



Think about it, Bioware's time is limited. Would you rather them spend them time making a few generic origin stories that don't fit (there were a few in DA:O), or a single one that's polished, well-thought-out, and related to the story? It's not like you won't be able to make choices during the game.



Besides, this isn't turning DA into ME. DA is a spiritual successor to Baldur's Gate, and I don't see anyone ****ing about Baldur's Gate only offering one character background (yeah you could choose your race but it really didn't matter). Imagine Baldur's Gate with multiple origins! That just won't even work...

[StingingVelvet]

I'm fine with it being a set character... works well in games that do that. The story and combat (PC RPG COMBAT I HOPE) are what is important.



I usually pick a preset... I don't care.

[Jestina]

This to me is sounding like Fallout...with medieval weaponry. Just by the hints they've given us so far.

No race is really a downer, considering one of the main reasons I got DA was because it was a fantasy RPG.

Modifié par Jestina, 08 juillet 2010 - 07:02 .

[lovgreno]

Hmm, then I probably won't buy it. I realy liked to see the game from the perpective of different races, it was the big thing about the game if you know what I mean. I especialy liked the dwarves and was hoping to play as a qunari. Well you can't put everything we want in a game and you can't make everyone happy. Hopefully more races will return in future Dragon Age games.

[Demx]

Just to make things clear in this thread Hawke is not the god-baby.



Victor

http://social.biowar...53709/2#3054770

[DeadJediJamie]

Chris Priestly wrote...

While there are multiple races in the game, like elves, dwarves, etc, in Dragon Age 2 you play a human character.

So essentially we're playing Commander Shepard in Medieval times? **** you.

[Dark Elhoim]

ColeMR wrote...

JoaoBeraldo wrote...

I don't see it as an issue. Dragon Age Origins had that name because its focus was on Origins. It was it's 'new feature'.

You might notice this one is not called Dragon Age: Origins 2. Just Dragon Age. In fact, on the hotsite there is a 'Rise to Power' that seems to stick out of some sentences. Might as well be this game's 'surname', which ties in to what seems to be this game's 'new feature': building your own empire from scratch.

It's not a step backwards. It's a different story with a different gameplay to fit in.

This.
I was fond of my Dalish elf and other various characters but their story's are done.  C'est fini.  If you want the same old thing then play the same old game.
The point of a trying a new "flavour" seems to be eluding a lot of people here.

Funny that this "new" flavour tastes like Mass Effect.

[Jestina]

DeadJediJamie wrote...
So essentially we're playing Commander Shepard in Medieval times? **** you.

We'll find out the Darkspawn and Reapers are related. And Shepard goes back in time to fight the Blight.

[k177sh0t]

Jestina wrote...

DeadJediJamie wrote...
So essentially we're playing Commander Shepard in Medieval times? **** you.

We'll find out the Darkspawn and Reapers are related. And Shepard goes back in time to fight the Blight.

Dragon Effect: Origins

[BroBear Berbil]

I'm worried that this will kill a lot of the replay value for me. I've played probably hundreds of hours across a bunch of characters by now and a lot of the reason I felt like I could play the same class again was because of the races.



I've only beat ME2 once and didn't really feel like doing a full play through again because there's not a whole lot of difference there anyway.

[Lady Catastrophe]

k177sh0t wrote...

Jestina wrote...

DeadJediJamie wrote...
So essentially we're playing Commander Shepard in Medieval times? **** you.

We'll find out the Darkspawn and Reapers are related. And Shepard goes back in time to fight the Blight.

Dragon Effect: Origins

Dragon Effect: Fight for the Lost?

[sage_viper]

Just posted this thread:

http://social.biowar...1/index/3056407

It's for your concerns with the game so we don't get all off topic on these other threads.

[Anathemic]

OnionXI wrote...

I'm worried that this will kill a lot of the replay value for me. I've played probably hundreds of hours across a bunch of characters by now and a lot of the reason I felt like I could play the same class again was because of the races.

I've only beat ME2 once and didn't really feel like doing a full play through again because there's not a whole lot of difference there anyway.

This, Mass Effect is a good game don't get me wrong, but compared to Dragon Age the replay value was sub par. You are always Shepard and the only thing you could change through playthroughs was pratically the face (Pre-Service history doesn't really matter).
In Dragon Age whenever i wanted to start a new character, it coudl be different each time, personally I loved the whole elf dialogue when my character went all out on them. Sadly none of this in DA2

[ICevoL]

Hmmm... I'm not sure what to make of all this, to be honest.

I admit that I'm disappointed about not being able to play an elf in the new game.  My elf characters turned out to be my favorites in DAO, just because I got so much satisfaction from being a champion for the second-class citizens the elves were considered to be in Ferelden -- "So, you humans look down on elves, do you?  I just saved all of your screaming behinds from a swarm of darkspawn.  RESPECT MY AUTHORITAH!!!!!"



I hearby pledge myself to begging the extremely talented modder community ahead of time -- "Please provide those of us who can't use the dev tools with Morphs that at least make a "half breed" appearance possible!"  I'm not against playing a human who has pointy ears if I can (lore-violating appearance be damned!!!)

All joking aside, I'm not prepared to "toss out the baby with the bathwater" here.  DAO is the most enjoyable game I've played in years, and the story they have up on the announcement page (as vague as it is) sounds intriguing.  I'm reserving judgement until we have more details to go on.

I'm just hoping against hope that they keep the depth of the NPC characterizations/dialog options from DAO, and the romance options, too.  I haven't played this game so many times for the fights, you know.  It's all about the story for me, specifically the development of your character's interactions with his team of allies, which had so many variations and flavors in DAO that replays never get old.

Modifié par ICevoL, 08 juillet 2010 - 07:16 .

[Tikkidew]

I'm really bummed out by this news. Keep ME out of my DA!

[Mikey_205]

I'm not keen on this. Fully voiced I am upset about. When I played ME2 I wanted my Shepard to say something and because voicing adds constraints it was usually a) Paragon Renegade c) More Info Please. Dragon Age was a lot better in the dialogue department and had very very good written player responses mostly grey that almost always had a match to what I wanted to say. Voice acting will constrain this could be worth it if they don't sacrifice dialogue choice.



Lack of racial choice is also bad. Of all the things you could be in a mystical fantastic/sci-fi world of adventure why a fricken human everytime. The City Elf and Mage Origins were great because they felt alien and different. Basically now my character is going to be a boring Shepard with bland war torn history surrounded by infinitely more interesting characters. For what reason?? Because a voice won't fit.... I dont care if the voice sounds a little funny!

[marspiter2]

I personally didn't buy Awakening because I thought it was a step backwards (along with other issues I had with the game) and to me it showed me exactly where EA was forcing Bioware to head. This is just going to become another great title that continues to get "dumbed down" in an effort to achieve more sales through multiple platforms and a "wider" audience. I think many game developers forget what RPG's are. ME2 while good is not my cup of tea. Sadly Bioware peaked with Baldur's Gate 2. I considered Origins to be a stellar game and thought Bioware was back in the saddle again for another epic franchise. As it looks now that original assessment was a bit premature. There is still a ways until this game is fully developed but as a customer I am currently not interested in this product thus far much like Awakening. If I want a gritty predefined character to play in a fantasy rpg type setting I'll go with the Witcher. It was the custom character development that made Origins great.

[Creylon]

If this means the main character is voiced then i happy to give up race choosing.