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[brfritos]

Hulk Hsieh wrote...

brfritos wrote...
So an engineer/sentinel is equiped with powers to strip most if of/any defenses of my enemies and have a stupid faster cooldown.
How an Adept deals with shields?
Sure, you can say anything you want about singularity, but in the end you will be shooting the damn thing.
And the majority of enemies in ME2 have shields/armor, not biotic barriers.

Warp works on armor too, but is no match for Incinerate.

For a class that is described as not needing guns to do his job, the Adept is a bit of a disappointment.

Collectors in insanity get barriers and there's a lot of them.
What an engineer can do is to distract them with a drone, and to shoot them in the back.

No, you don't need to.

You use Miranda and Thane for this, then you use Cryo Blast on them and then you finish the job by shooting on them.
Since they are freezed, they take more damage, one burst of Vindicator finish a frozen Collector Assassin.

That's what engineers do, they strip the defenses of enemies, weak them and let the squad mates finish them.
Just to clarify, when you cryo someone, your squad immediatelly change their target and start to firing on it.

Actually, you use your combat drone to keep harbinger and scions occupied. 

[Doctor_Jackstraw]

maybe they'll get the biotic bubble.  Blocks bullets but prevents shepard from shooting while you hold it up.  squadmates can stand in the bubble and shoot and enemies can run in and penetrate it but that would be pretty sweet.

[Annihilator27]

Doctor_Jackstraw wrote...

maybe they'll get the biotic bubble.  Blocks bullets but prevents shepard from shooting while you hold it up.  squadmates can stand in the bubble and shoot and enemies can run in and penetrate it but that would be pretty sweet.

That'll be sweet and Interesting.

[Sailears]

Whatever it is, I'm sure it will be enjoyable.

[rabidhanar]

Doctor_Jackstraw wrote...

maybe they'll get the biotic bubble.  Blocks bullets but prevents shepard from shooting while you hold it up.  squadmates can stand in the bubble and shoot and enemies can run in and penetrate it but that would be pretty sweet.

Problem about the bubble is that it did not stop bullets when they used it, only swarms.

The reasoning for this is that infiltrator shepard would have a hard time killing without the ability to use his/her sniper rifle.

[Sparrow44]

I think improving the biotic abilities not just for Adepts, but for the other biotic classes as well would be ideal in giving those classes added utility.



Vanguards are all about Charge>Shotgun>Melee



Sentinels are probably evenly balanced but Warp seems to be the only useful biotic power for them as throw is often redundant on higher difficulties.



Adepts have Singularity as well as Warp as main defense stripping but the other powers are there just to have fun with flinging enemies into the air.



I think giving powers like Pull where for however long the enemies are suspended in the air their health drains a small bit for the duration,



And Throw and Shockwave by rights should really hurt on impact if you're hit with them so maybe not just for crowd control or for fun but perhaps a slightly increased damage potential for those abilities.



Oh and perhaps let them bypass shields or armor but in a 'critical hit - 50% chance of performing on protection' sorta thing.



If they're thinking of a patch to balance game-play then I hope its for all biotic abilities and that the patch perhaps is subsequently followed by some light-adept customizable armor with power duration, power damage and power cooldown bonuses to sweeten the deal.

[mdouglas86]

Well they just announced a new DLC/"Expansion" involving Liara and the Shadow Broker. I wonder if there would be some biotic buff included in this DLC?

[TMA LIVE]

mdouglas86 wrote...

Well they just announced a new DLC/"Expansion" involving Liara and the Shadow Broker. I wonder if there would be some biotic buff included in this DLC?

Well, she's was the main adept character in ME1.

[Jackal904]

Updated info in the OP.

[RyuGuitarFreak]

I think there will be a new biotic damage upgrade.

[PWENER]

RyuGuitarFreak wrote...

I think there will be a new biotic damage upgrade.

WOW!!!! +70% biotic damage... that is such a lame buff considering all the hype this is getting.

[Jackal904]

PWENER wrote...

RyuGuitarFreak wrote...

I think there will be a new biotic damage upgrade.

WOW!!!! +70% biotic damage... that is such a lame buff considering all the hype this is getting.

Ha, yeah that would be pretty lame. But I doubt an extra 10% buff to biotic damage would cause anyone to want to replay the entire game as an adept.

[RyuGuitarFreak]

PWENER wrote...

RyuGuitarFreak wrote...

I think there will be a new biotic damage upgrade.

WOW!!!! +70% biotic damage... that is such a lame buff considering all the hype this is getting.

Then what do you think it will be? A complete new biotic system on the game? 6 months + after release? Only an upgrade would be indeed lame, but you're all overrating that statement/PR talk I think.

Anyway, what I'm able to think that wouldn't be lame would be a damage upgrade AND an N7 armor piece that would boost damage and biotic duration. Something that would make an N7 combination as good or better for biotics as the Blood Dragon armor.
 

Modifié par RyuGuitarFreak, 09 août 2010 - 01:34 .

[Deflagratio]

Biotic Powers need to disable at least Low-rank enemies, regardless of what defenses they have up. Enemies like Harbinger, Scion and Merc Leaders (With multiple defense layers) can be immune or resistant, but for the rank-and-file it's kind of stupid that Disabling biotics can't do anything until You've already practically killed the enemy.



(Insanity)->At the same time, with such a change, I'd like to see recharging enemy defenses, to promote aggressive attacks (Recharge to 100% on Insanity, 50% on Hardcore), instead of Bunker down n pot-shot. At least Barrier/shields. Such a change would also increase the usefulness of the squad, as after you get shot up, your squad will be integral to keeping the enemies defenses down.





Just my 2 cents though, I still think Mass Effect 2 is WAY too easy on Insanity, and that's even playing as a vanguard which is basically suicidal lightning.

[Jackal904]

RyuGuitarFreak wrote...

you think it will be? A complete new biotic system on the game? 6 months + after release?

They don't have to create a whole new biotic system. They just have to make biotics (besides warp) not completely useless against enemies with defenses.

[Draelith]

I'm curious. When is this scheduled for release anyway? I was planning on going through as an Adept anyway, so I might hold off until they release it if it's coming out soon.

[Grimjesse127]

If they didn't do that, but released a FREE boost for biotics on the same day, surely their ratings would go a lot higher. If they release something actually important, and for free.



I wouldn't want to pay for just a biotic upgrade. If Lair of The Shadow broker costs more than 800 points i'm not going to buy it though.

[catabuca]

I've just finished an Adept run-through.



Yes, I certainly did use singularity a heck of a lot. It holds enemies with protection in place, it sweeps up hordes and is great for setting up traps. And of course nothing is more boom!exciting as a hefty warp 'splosion.



However, I also utilized pull a great deal, to drag enemies out of cover/off ledges and get Zaeed to concussive shot their arses away (or, indeed, warp 'splosion'd them). I also use throw a great deal. I only ever invest 1 point in it, but it does a great job of knocking an enemy out of the way quickly if you accidentally find yourself in a tight spot and need a second or two to beat a hasty retreat/find cover and don't want to end a singularity that might be holding enemies elsewhere. It's also, obviously, great to knock collectors off platforms (or anybody else off any other ledge), but I tend to let concussive shot or someone else's throw do that. On lower levels (only tried this up to Veteran), even just 1 point in throw will mash a husk.



I never use shockwave.

[Jackal904]

^ Yeah I know singularity is useful for keeping armored enemies back, but as a biotic I want to toss stuff around, not cause them to stagger constantly.

KEffect72 wrote...

Necromancy!

Are you an idiot? The thread was posted in only 17 days ago before I bumped it, and I bumped it because there was updated information on the subject. I even put the date of the update in the f*cking title. Congratulations at failing to observe the obvious.

[Jaron Oberyn]

Jackal904 wrote...

^ Yeah I know singularity is useful for keeping armored enemies back, but as a biotic I want to toss stuff around, not cause them to stagger constantly.

KEffect72 wrote...

Necromancy!

Are you an idiot? The thread was posted in only 17 days ago before I bumped it, and I bumped it because there was updated information on the subject. I even put the date of the update in the f*cking title. Congratulations at failing to observe the obvious.

Theres another 2 threads talking about this. You did actually resurrect a dead thread. So you can't blame him for saying that. 

-Polite

[Annihilator27]

You think Itl be in a patch or would people have to buy the dlc.

[Annihilator27]

PoliteAssasin wrote...

Jackal904 wrote...

^ Yeah I know singularity is useful for keeping armored enemies back, but as a biotic I want to toss stuff around, not cause them to stagger constantly.

KEffect72 wrote...

Necromancy!

Are you an idiot? The thread was posted in only 17 days ago before I bumped it, and I bumped it because there was updated information on the subject. I even put the date of the update in the f*cking title. Congratulations at failing to observe the obvious.

Theres another 2 threads talking about this. You did actually resurrect a dead thread. So you can't blame him for saying that. 

-Polite

Not that dead, I think mods say after 2-3 months Itll be dead.  This wouldnt be the first thread and there has been far older threads resurrected. Some with no complaints. The other 2 threas someone couldve said that this thread was here.

Modifié par annihilator27, 09 août 2010 - 04:44 .

[Jaron Oberyn]

The DLC is going to be sold, theres no doubt about that. But the modifications to the game will most likely be free, since it changes gameplay. The adepts buff isn't the only thing Christina Norman teased a while ago. Squad power re-specialization, and a few other things.



-Polite

[Annihilator27]

PoliteAssasin wrote...

The DLC is going to be sold, theres no doubt about that. But the modifications to the game will most likely be free, since it changes gameplay. The adepts buff isn't the only thing Christina Norman teased a while ago. Squad power re-specialization, and a few other things.

-Polite

Squad respec? Im down for that.