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[Carmen_Willow]

Behindyounow wrote...

I'm more pissed about the lack of the origin game mechanic than the lack of my GW, who I honestly don't care about.

I thought the origins tutorial was the most original way to get you ino character that I'd ever seen.  By the time you finished your origin, you really cared about your character; you felt for him/her.  Heck you were him/her.

And there is this:   I was thinking about why the Mass Effect conversation system didn't appeal to me as much as DA:O's even though my character was mute.  Here's why--No matter what conversation choice I chose for my female Shepard, she just didn't say things the way I would have.  Her choice of words, her method of delivery, her tone of voice -- none of it matched how I would choose to speak.  So Mass Effect is still SHEPARD'S story, not mine.

DA:O allowed me to choose a way of saying something that matched more closely to my character's personality.  Some choices were pretty hard and some were pretty emo, but I got to choose.  I am really afraid that's going away with this sequel.  Too bad.  Bioware was on to a great thing there.

[Korva]

Polemists05 wrote...

Yea I kind of figured you'd be me morrigan's kid considering that even if you said no to her, and no one else went with her, you still got the ending that she might be with child when she wandered off.

Not true. The piece of trash buggered off to Orlais in my game without any mention of a brat or potential pregnancy. I just wish I could have gutted her in Origins.

If they make the Dark Ritual canon for this game, I won't be buying it. I want nothing to do with Morrigan, and I don't want my preferred Origins ending (Ultimate Sacrifice) hand-waved out of existence.

Which is why I'm glad the sequel starts over with a fresh protagonist.

[WilliamShatner]

Isabelle Mortello wrote...

They said all your choices will still affect the land.

So based on our choices some part with have grass, some will have wheat and some will be bog?

[Felfenix]

Ooooh, I think somebody just dropped an interesting hint...

[jjkrogs]

10 years, yes. My guess would be the first part is when you're younger and you survive/fight the blight, then enter 10-year Rocky-like montage where your character becomes famous and has to do 'a quest'.

[zahra]

Carmen_Willow wrote...

Behindyounow wrote...

I'm more pissed about the lack of the origin game mechanic than the lack of my GW, who I honestly don't care about.

I thought the origins tutorial was the most original way to get you ino character that I'd ever seen.  By the time you finished your origin, you really cared about your character; you felt for him/her.  Heck you were him/her.

And there is this:   I was thinking about why the Mass Effect conversation system didn't appeal to me as much as DA:O's even though my character was mute.  Here's why--No matter what conversation choice I chose for my female Shepard, she just didn't say things the way I would have.  Her choice of words, her method of delivery, her tone of voice -- none of it matched how I would choose to speak.  So Mass Effect is still SHEPARD'S story, not mine.

DA:O allowed me to choose a way of saying something that matched more closely to my character's personality.  Some choices were pretty hard and some were pretty emo, but I got to choose.  I am really afraid that's going away with this sequel.  Too bad.  Bioware was on to a great thing there.

YES YES YES. THIS.

I never felt as connected to my Shepard as I did to my chars in Origins. I replayed ME2 maybe 7 times. And then felt like I was finished with it.

Im STILL playing DA.

[ThomasAndrew]

Your character could die at the end of dragon age. Kinda silly to think they could come back in the 2nd one. Before awakening that is.

[Tharanir]

Korva wrote...

Polemists05 wrote...

Yea I kind of figured you'd be me morrigan's kid considering that even if you said no to her, and no one else went with her, you still got the ending that she might be with child when she wandered off.

Not true. The piece of trash buggered off to Orlais in my game without any mention of a brat or potential pregnancy. I just wish I could have gutted her in Origins.

If they make the Dark Ritual canon for this game, I won't be buying it. I want nothing to do with Morrigan, and I don't want my preferred Origins ending (Ultimate Sacrifice) hand-waved out of existence.

Which is why I'm glad the sequel starts over with a fresh protagonist.

I hope you don't buy this game, just saying.

"Waah, If I don't get my way, I'm picking up my ball and going home"

If it's a good game, then I will buy it and enjoy the story that they write. If it's DR canon, I'll be super happy. If it's not, and that's the reason they are giving you a new character (which seems likely), I'll still take the game on it's merits.

[UberDuber]

Well everybody know this game is going nowhere now. If there just going to make up a new story and character and though everything else away.Everytime them make a new Dragon age.

[Gill Kaiser]

UberDuber wrote...

Well everybody know this game is going nowhere now. If there just going to make up a new story and character and though everything else away.Everytime them make a new Dragon age.

That's what I always thought was going to happen. Considering the size of the setting, why wouldn't it be?

[RunCDFirst]

Carmen_Willow wrote...

I thought the origins tutorial was the most original way to get you ino character that I'd ever seen.  By the time you finished your origin, you really cared about your character; you felt for him/her.  Heck you were him/her.

Six year development cycle. The Origins just aren't feasible for every installment of the game. There's a reason that RPGs don't actually offer much in customization. Baldur's Gate has you playing perhaps the most cliched origin in literature and I'm still replaying that game.

And there is this:   I was thinking about why the Mass Effect conversation system didn't appeal to me as much as DA:O's even though my character was mute.  Here's why--No matter what conversation choice I chose for my female Shepard, she just didn't say things the way I would have.  Her choice of words, her method of delivery, her tone of voice -- none of it matched how I would choose to speak.  So Mass Effect is still SHEPARD'S story, not mine.

Agreed. The dialogue wheel is really ridiculous. It's necessary for those (dirty) console (peasant) players since it would be hell to navigate the long lists of dialogue choices with joystick but for a franchise that has done so well on PC and was designed initially for the PC I would hope they wouldn't replace it's current system.

[night0205]

jjkrogs wrote...

10 years, yes. My guess would be the first part is when you're younger and you survive/fight the blight, then enter 10-year Rocky-like montage where your character becomes famous and has to do 'a quest'.

I sure hope that's not how it goes. The whole point of them mentioning 10 years, is to tell us it's going to take place over 10 years, not 10 years between ages.

[xistfirat]

hmm... is there a possibility that they made the origins game for a base storyline which you will play with hawke on later games ?

[Dark24auron]

xistfirat wrote...

hmm... is there a possibility that they made the origins game for a base storyline which you will play with hawke on later games ?

That is what I am thinking. Maybe we are just being introduced to another character that will be involved with our DA:O character later on.

[RunCDFirst]

Dark24auron wrote...

xistfirat wrote...

hmm... is there a possibility that they made the origins game for a base storyline which you will play with hawke on later games ?

That is what I am thinking. Maybe we are just being introduced to another character that will be involved with our DA:O character later on.

You know, this would be a really great idea (and what I had hoped would happen with KotOR III had it... you know... happened). 
I'm assuming DA is at least going to be a trilogy, so if they unite the two main characters from the first games with a new main character from the third - well that would be just awesome.
It's not going to happen, though. Especially since you could have had your character die in the first game.

[Caiobrz]

I wouldn't pay so much attention to the "10 years" issue. It can be important, or it can't. Take Fallout3 for instance, you start the game being BORN, then quick 5-min quests while you grow, and bang, you are 19. They could say it takes place in 20 years just as easy



Yet I would love to know how DA:O and DA2 will connect, because seriously, I hope there is a connection, since the "Origins" hinted on that.I also agree that Morigan is a must for DA2, not that she needs to show up, but whatever happens to her and her child is certainly important, because let's face it, that was one of the most important plot devices on the first game.

[jjkrogs]

RunCDFirst wrote...

Dark24auron wrote...

xistfirat wrote...

hmm... is there a possibility that they made the origins game for a base storyline which you will play with hawke on later games ?

That is what I am thinking. Maybe we are just being introduced to another character that will be involved with our DA:O character later on.

You know, this would be a really great idea (and what I had hoped would happen with KotOR III had it... you know... happened). 
I'm assuming DA is at least going to be a trilogy, so if they unite the two main characters from the first games with a new main character from the third - well that would be just awesome.
It's not going to happen, though. Especially since you could have had your character die in the first game.

The problem with this is that we're not talking about a console game system, here, that will survive a 5+ year run through a trilogy, as it appears the ME franchise lucked out with (the timing worked just right not to have to overlap onto a next generation console system).  Most PC's are scrapped after about 3-5 years, so I would guess few people would bother keeping their original game files from DA:O, especially when they discover the original PC doesn't return in DA2.  DA3 will be too far into the future (both in time and game technology) to make any use of your DA1 files, anyway, for those who actually kept the save games.

[jjkrogs]

"Yet I would love to know how DA:O and DA2 will connect, because seriously, I hope there is a connection, since the "Origins" hinted on that."

While I doubt BioWare will ever admit it, I'm fairly convinced they originally intended on that (character continuation), but for whatever reason changed direction completely based on fan input, or market input from ME2/EA.

Modifié par jjkrogs, 08 juillet 2010 - 11:33 .

[YoungNV]

Why are some people so obsessed with Origins? That chapter is done! The blight is OVER! Thedas doesn't NEED The Warden Commander anymore! He/She is a minor player in the aftermath of the blight. Do you really want to play the same game again? With the same characters and setting? I'm rather excited to experience other characters and places in the DA universe. Maybe that's just me.

[jjkrogs]

"Why are some people so obsessed with Origins?"



Because it was a great game, and the whole emphasis of the origin stories suggested your character continued, perhaps beyond the first game.



"The blight is OVER! Thedas doesn't NEED The Warden Commander anymore!"



SO your PC has no other value or skills to save the world in other ways? He's just going to powerfully and famously retire to his keep, never to be seen again until The Calling? What a lame ending for such a triumphant hero.



"He/She is a minor player in the aftermath of the blight."



He/she can be as important as the writers allow. Han Solo and Luke Skywalker didn't retire after they destroyed the Death Star (the first time). There's always another Death Star, or something like it.



"Do you really want to play the same game again?"



I fail to see how playing your original PC, in a new setting and story, would make it the same game. Ever play Baldur's Gate 1 & 2?



"I'm rather excited to experience other characters and places in the DA universe."



As am I. However, starting as a human peasant has been done. To death. Next thing you know your character disappears after a cave in at the end of the game and forgets who he is, only waking in time for the DA2 expansion: Dragon Age 2: ReAwakening



I'm obviously just messing with you, but it would have been nice to continue a la the aforementioned Baldur's Gate. I know folks out there, like yerself, disagree. I'll still be happy to play it, though.

[NewDK]

yes, I want see the effects from my choices in DA2, but I think that DA2 isn't a sequel is a story made in the same universe, everyone here know the quality from Bioware's stories and i know that it will be excellent.



someone mention ME, i agree in ME shepard wasn't totally what I wanted to difference from DAO where your warden was your own character, but I suppose that it was for the approval system

[RGDekta]

jjkrogs wrote...

First, let me say that I'm extremely excited about the DA2 announcement, and regardless, I'm sure the game will be incredible as was the first.

But...  Didn't they trump the whole origin story thing by implying that it was the start of a (possible) 3-game series with your original character, much like Mass Effect?  Why concentrate so much on origin stories and background in DAO  when your character isn't playable beyond it? 

They never said you would continue with your original character only mention I saw is this is a new franchise.  Also imho Origins had a duel meaning the origins story of the warden you played and Origins as Beginning foundation of the world.  The reason I assumed DA was going to be a franchise before that was mentioned by Bioware was from Origins.  You don't do a Origin to a world if it is not going to be a franchise.

[Dansayshi]

Meh, the ultimate thing in DAO was the death of the arch deamon ending the blight, and since this is in a different land, i'd guess thats all you'd really hear about.



As for the direction of the games, my guess is that they'll each take place in a different "country" so to speak, and will all tie in to something greater near the end of the series... hopefully anyway.

[darkrose]

I don't mind a new PC, although I do feel like I didn't really get an ending. I don't like the idea of being forced to play a human, though. The intricate worldbuilding, with three very different races and variations within those races, is why I keep replaying DAO.

[Alexander1136]

Polemists05 wrote...

Yea I kind of figured you'd be me morrigan's kid considering that even if you said no to her, and no one else went with her, you still got the ending that she might be with child when she wandered off.

if its my wardens kid why is he sur-named hawke and how did he/she survive the blight. I would like to play as uthamiel but hawke most likely isnt.