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What was the point of origin stories if we're starting over?


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Gena Mafer

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What was the point of origin stories if we're starting over?




The point is they can't make a Mass Effect With Swords with a Warden Shepard as an extension of a game that had multiple races and backstories and end-of-game conclusions.

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Can we guess that Hawke is now the new cannon face of Dragon Age? The thingey on the website says "how you rose to power" or something like that... I don't trust it, though because I always thought Origins meant Origin to your character (don't frequent these boards often so I never heard any developer say otherwise--so forgive me). Anyways, I hope we don't meet any of the old characters because they should belong to the Warden, and not this new character. I want to see new characters since its going to be a new story.

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Is it just me or does the concept art with the bridge and all seem to show a blighted land? Just a wild speculation, but it might be possible that in DA 2 Thedas has been blighted and thus nothing from origins would especially matter. I'm not sure how it would fit in with the origins/10-years-and-some-of-them-taking-place-during-origins-in-DA2 but meh.



I personally have no problem with starting a whole new story with a whole new PC. The blight is over and dealt with, adn the warden won't live forever. And I really want to see more of Thedas and from different perspectives.



Besides, having played Origins x hours, I've made a lot of characters. So it's hard to choose just one to connect with and play forward as!

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Gena Mafer wrote...

What was the point of origin stories if we're starting over?


The point is they can't make a Mass Effect With Swords with a Warden Shepard as an extension of a game that had multiple races and backstories and end-of-game conclusions.

I almost remembering them saying in an interview they would try and they had confindence in thier workers to get it done.
Maybe i do not remember it clearly.

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Oh shi~

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DadeLeviathan wrote...

KennethAFTopp wrote...

So Hawk's story, is this before or after DA:O I wonder...


He/She is a survivor of the Blight, so after.


There will never be a game before DA:O under the name of Dragon Age. Maric called it the Dragon Age after the war with the Orlesians...

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DadeLeviathan wrote...

KennethAFTopp wrote...

So Hawk's story, is this before or after DA:O I wonder...


He/She is a survivor of the Blight, so after.


noone said "of the 4th Blight"

KennyBloem wrote...

There will never be a game before DA:O
under the name of Dragon Age. Maric called it the Dragon Age after the
war with the Orlesians...


if i remember it
correctly the Chantry or a sage or oracle or whatever is who names ages,
and not some "backwards northern kingdoms ruler"

Modifié par joriandrake, 09 juillet 2010 - 07:38 .


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joriandrake wrote...

KennyBloem wrote...

There will never be a game before DA:O
under the name of Dragon Age. Maric called it the Dragon Age after the
war with the Orlesians...


if i remember it
correctly the Chantry or a sage or oracle or whatever is who names ages,
and not some "backwards northern kingdoms ruler"


Did you read the Novell?

I'm not sure but wasn't Maric standing on a cliff when a dragon appeared? Didn't David Gaider write it was the beginning of the Dragon Age?

Modifié par KennyBloem, 09 juillet 2010 - 07:50 .


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Tharanir wrote...

I hope you don't buy this game, just saying.

"Waah, If I don't get my way, I'm picking up my ball and going home"


Cute. :P Do you have the time and money to throw away on something that doesn't interest you? Are we obliged to buy everything Bioware ever makes just because we bought and liked one product? I didn't buy ME2. I didn't buy Awakenings. I'm a horrible person, I know.

If it's a good game, then I will buy it and enjoy the story that they write. If it's DR canon, I'll be super happy. If it's not, and that's the reason they are giving you a new character (which seems likely), I'll still take the game on it's merits.


You like the setting and franchise enough to do that, fair enough. I don't function that way. For me, continuity is a big deal. If a company already knows that it "needs" to impose One True Way Of Playing A Game for the sequels to be possible as planned, then I see it as a bait-and-switch to give players choices and options that differ from the OTWOPTG and thus will be utterly ignored further down the line. Instead, why not focus on the OTWOPTG and give that more depth and detail from the start? And if things aren't planned in advance, then retroactively imposing "canon" is still bad form in my book.

Note: I'm not saying Bioware is doing this. Obviously, we don't know what their plans are. I'm just saying I don't like it when it happens, have been badly disappointed by it before, and so do notbuy games that do it.

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So they called it Dragon Age: Origins because it contains the origin story for your Dragon Age:Origins Character who only exists in Dragon Age: Origins?

Of course the title implies that the Character has more than one gametime of life in it. But I am still not surprised. I understand though that, in light of the Bioware fanboy hype, you're going to be burned at a stake if you say otherwise.

Modifié par AlexXIV, 09 juillet 2010 - 10:09 .


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Alot of people are assuming alot first it says nothing about the main char in DA 2 escaping the blight "You are one of the few who escaped the destruction of your home." is what it says. The Dragon Age officially started 30 years before DA:O and everyone is assuming it is fereldan when there is alot of other nations in thedeas.

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IMO, if you aren't a relative of DA: O's main character, you'll probably be him having lost his memory in some epic fight, or you might be able to import him as some kind of companion or ally. Just wishful thinking though.....I really like my character so I hope Hawke is your character minus memory.

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so you're saying it is basicly John Doe but they call him Hawke?



well, Morrigan would be pleased :P

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Dragon Age origins was not made to import sequels, like Mass Effect 1. Why don't people know this? Remember even ME1 had a ton of problems switching over to ME2, and it was designed to carry over. I never once thought DA2 was going to be a sequel that carried what you did in Origins over.

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well they have said that you actions would have big consequences for the next game

so, i guess they were planning to import data but maybe they just changed everything

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oops

due to the problems they had with ME1-ME2

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wickedwizzard01 wrote...

well they have said that you actions would have big consequences for the next game
so, i guess they were planning to import data but maybe they just changed everything


Your DA:O game can still have big consequences, without you being able to play as your PC from that game.

Kind of like, imagine DA:O as being a soldier in the first World War.  Now fast forward to DA2, which would be the equivalent of, say, the second World War.  Just because you don't get to play as that soldier from WWI doesn't mean the events that happened in WWI aren't still evident when WWII begins.

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lets hope so

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Think about it this way, there always has to be conflict. Your DAO character cannot start out as lvl 1 because they wouldn't be able to have defeated the blight with that in mind. Also if your character starts out as whatever level we leave Awakening, (i forget the number) then nothing should be able to stop us, we should be able to plow through anything like butter and the game would be boring.



Second, I will bet anything that woman with the white hair is Flemeth. I have seen her mentioned once or twice and it wouldn't be the first time she sucked the life out of a human body to replace her own. As you remember from Origins, Morrigan said that after you defeat the dragon she doubted she would be dead then too.



Third, if it is Morrigans kid, she would be 10 years old...that woman was a little older than 10...



Fourth and finally, when they brought out awakening, even if your character had died in Origins they made that character able to play in awakening as though it didn't happen that way. They mentioned that the choices you make in DAO would be brought out in DAO 2 so my thought is yes it would take a wickedly long story line, but maybe the antagonist in the story can change depending on your last choices. Just a thought.

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I had guessed that Dragon Age would be a trilogy, only because trilogies are a common, and the fact that at the start of Origins, there are three remaining old gods to fight, which would make sense to fight each one in each game of a possible trilogy.



It was a surprise to me to not only see that apparently Dragon Age won't be a trilogy, but a bunch of games that happen to take place in Theadas. I'll give DA2 the benefit of the doubt, but I would like to see multiple playable races make a return to the series at some point. Having the option of playing as a dwarven character was a big draw for me prior to buying DA:O.



I hope that by making so many changes to the next game, which seem to be focused on making the series more mass-market friendly, we don't get a shorter, more forgettable game. I liked that DA:O was a long game and was a lot more tactical than most rpgs that I've played. Hopefully DA2 doesn't end up being some kind of medieval Mass Effect.