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[Jimmy Fury]

Herr Uhl wrote...
The "Female" prostitutes and nugs.

Ooooh yeah.... I never romanced Lel so I forgot about the nug thing. Also never did anyone at the Pearl.

[hoysexyjew]

Ladybright wrote...

hoysexyjew wrote...

Kataria wrote...

Not to
open a can of rabid worms, but can any of the developers give a "Yea" or "Nay"?  It's probably a bit of a deal-maker/breaker for some of us, especially after Mass Effect 2!

So, you won't buy Dragon age 2 if you can't be gay in it?

Possibly. More possibly if the "predifined character" crap reasoning surfaces in marketing
again.

Don't get me wrong, I am *thrilled* for DA2, but if it regresses in the same way ME2 did, that will definitely weaken my resolve to buy it.

I agree, I don't want a predefined character either, but for me it's because I don't want to be playing as someone who is predefined as being gay. hopefully they will stick with the original dragon age method so everyone can be happy

Modifié par hoysexyjew, 08 juillet 2010 - 11:15 .

[Ziggy]

I think they will include it. DA is aimed at a very different audience from ME with it's rpg shooter thing.

[FunkyTofu]

I sincerely hope they allow same-sex romances and/or characters in DA2... The fact that I could engage in a male-male relationship in DA:O was what enticed me to play in the first place. It is so refreshing to be able to see someone like me, a gay male, represented positively in a video game.



And for those of you who don't like romances, just don't have one! And if you don't like same-sex romances, don't have any of those either! Please don't ruin it for the rest of us. DA:O is great because all of the romances and sex scenes are optional.



I have high hopes that DA2 will feature same-sex relationships or gay/bisexual characters, though maybe only in the form of NPCs or recruitable characters. I hope they just go all the way and let the main character go whichever way we want him/her to!

[KillTheLastRomantic]

Jimmy Fury wrote...

Druss99 wrote...

Romance options in a game are a deal breaker?

I can't speak for everyone but for some people it wouldn't be the romance options themselves so much as the decision to go hetero-only after the entire ME2 debacle and everything said during that.
Many people were at the tipping point already and remaining loyal to Bioware based on the inclusiveness of DA. If that is taken out there are some who will probably abandon ship.

Exactly how I feel on the subject. Its already a little worrying with the fixed race thing in DA2.

[highcastle]

I definitely hope that DA2 continues to be open and diverse in its romance options. That was a huge plus for DA:O in my book. The options gave the player the ability to truly roleplay the game as they chose. ME2 was such a letdown, especially after devs had said same-sex romances would be included early in development, then higher-ups seemed to pull that plug. Its disheartening to see such a move in this day and age.

Let's hope DA2 won't go that route.

[Shadow6773]

Well ya know if they just made it so every single relationship character was optional for either sex it would make things easier. I don't see what the hard part is with that.

[Helena Tylena]

Shadow6773 wrote...

Well ya know if they just made it so every single relationship character was optional for either sex it would make things easier. I don't see what the hard part is with that.

I actually kind of like the idea of the characters being either straight or gay, and your character being whatever you decide he/she is. If every romanceable character is bisexual it would be... Well, I would scratch my head.

[JasonPogo]

Well I can say for myself I hope they keep same sex romances in the game. It is not a deal breaker for me but it would make me lose allot of respect for Bioware. It seems like they run and hide for things even though their fans love it. ME2 is a clear example. They took out any same sex romance. But also the side boob. And I am not making a joke here. The love scenes in ME1 were great. You kind of saw a butt or two and some side boob but it was nothing horrible. It added allot to how they told the story I felt. Then in ME2 all the love scenes are fully clothed and kind of lame.

Modifié par JasonPogo, 09 juillet 2010 - 03:39 .

[Abiogenist]

Same-sex romance is a deal breaker me. My main reason for buying DA:O was the same-sex romance. If it doesn't have that, there will be a good chance I won't buy it.



It's rare for me to play as a gay character. I've been playing as straight male in most games, and it already made me very claustrophobic.

[zahra]

Halfno wrote...

I hope there are not same sex romances; it creeps me out and I find it immoral.

That conversation tree is not forced upon your "pure" morals.

[Lenimph]

Thanks to Leliana I like to have the option now, although I think Leliana was special to me and I'm not quite to sure If I'll go for a chick again(unless her voice is as sexy as Corinne Kempa's but that will never happen) depending on my male options but...



I enjoy having the option plus.... it's also great for laughs.... Bioware don't take our loves away.

And If you don't have same sex romance I want more then 2 guys to choose from!!! D:<

[Jimmy Fury]

Helena Tylena wrote...
I actually kind of like the idea of the characters being either straight or gay, and your character being whatever you decide he/she is. If every romanceable character is bisexual it would be... Well, I would scratch my head.

Oo I've been waiting to use this for a month now after I had
a mid-shower epiphany but never had the patience to wander back into the ME2
GayShep threads.

All the companions being potential romance partners is not the
same as all of the companions being bisexual.

How?

Schrodinger’s cat.

NPC sexuality (all sexuality actually but only NPCs apply to this) doesn't even
exist until it is observed.

Watch. This functions under the idea of making all companions potential romance
partners.

PC: Male character
3 fem companions 3 male companions.

Before any dialogue occurs all 6 companions have the ability to be any
sexuality at all.

However, for the 3 females it is irrelevant. At no point in this playthrough
(AKA this game) will a female PC ever approach them. It's impossible. The PC is
male. Thus, the three remaining females are all attracted to men and that's all
you need to know. Whether it's because they're bi or straight is, again, irrelevant.

Now, once dialogue initiates you, the player, control the conversation. With
this power you can observe or not observe the sexuality of the three male
characters. Dialogue consists of a variety of conversation topics one of which
is flirty.

Therefore, by not picking the flirty option you eliminate the potential for the
character to be bi or gay. If you want to be bros with all three then don't
flirt. They will never flirt back and are therefore not romance options.
Whether this is because they're straight or just not attracted to the PC is irrelevant.

If you're into guys then you can, obviously, choose to flirt with them thus
observing that all three are attracted to males. It's not statistically
impossible to meet 2 bi guys and a gay guy, two gay guys and a bi guy, three bi
guys, or 3 gay guys, so it's not outside the realm of realism.

The DA universe has no established percentages of sexualities therefore there's
no way to argue statistical impossibilities anyway since there are no
statistics.
Now here's the important part. A new Game is a new set of observations. That's
immersion for ya. If you choose to think about the characters in terms of other
playthroughs that is your fault not theirs. Choose instead to view only the
game you are playing. If you play as female everything is the exact opposite.

In DA one did the fact that you could kill the werewolves or let them live mean
the werewolves were undead? No. Two different sets of observations made 2
different stories.

Same thing applies.

WOO! sorry, like i said I've been waiting ages to pull that one out

--edited for spelling mistakes induced by hyperactive writing. narf.--
--edited again for HOLY MOTHER OF GOD WHAT HAPPENED--

Modifié par Jimmy Fury, 09 juillet 2010 - 04:11 .

[David Gaider]

Kataria wrote...
Not to open a can of rabid worms, but can any of the developers give a "Yeah" or "Nay"?  It's probably a bit of a deal-maker/breaker for some of us, especially after Mass Effect 2!

We haven't confirmed the existence of any party members yet, never mind the existence of romances or what sorts of romances they might potentially consist of. Appreciate the enthusiasm, but you're getting a little ahead of the information curve, here.

[Shadow of Light Dragon]

Party members and romance options right here?

[Mystranna Kelteel]

David Gaider wrote...
We haven't confirmed the existence of any party members yet, never mind the existence of romances or what sorts of romances they might potentially consist of. Appreciate the enthusiasm, but you're getting a little ahead of the information curve, here.

We know! If you had confirmed them we wouldn't have to ask! :happy:

But that doesn't mean you don't know or couldn't tell us. :innocent:

[Special_Agent_Goodwrench]

Bring the romance on!



On a side note, I'd love to see your romantic partner being incorporated into the story/dialogue more than he or she already is. Example: Your partner being involved more in your dialogue with npcs. Say you're being insulted by the big bad, your love then insults him/her back or may even try attacking the said big bad. Just little things like that.

[Special_Agent_Goodwrench]

Shadow of Light Dragon wrote...


Party members and romance options right here?

The girl on the right. Taken.

Modifié par DrunkDeadman, 09 juillet 2010 - 04:05 .

[Lucy Glitter]

David Gaider wrote...

We haven't confirmed the existence of any party members yet, never mind the existence of romances or what sorts of romances they might potentially consist of. Appreciate the enthusiasm, but you're getting a little ahead of the information curve, here.

That's a total yes judging from your use of a smiley face.

[Abiogenist]

DrunkDeadman, yeah, those little details would be very good.



For instace, in DA:O I was hoping there'd be a fistfight or whatever when you engage romance with another character. Instead, we only get "I'm breaking up with you."

It would be fresh for party members to sometimes act independently on their own.

[Jimmy Fury]

Oi yes you have! "Gather the deadliest of allies" is confirmation of party members. You know we're clever Gaider don't try your doublespeak on us sir!



and seriously dude just a "if there's any romance at all it'll be similar to Origins" would be enough for the majority of us. You don't have to tell us anything specific.



Pleeeeease... I'll give you a cookie!

(and by cookie I mean 200 bucks on multiple copies of the game and DLC.)

[yiasmin]

Helena Tylena wrote...

I actually kind of like the idea of the characters being either straight or gay, and your character being whatever you decide he/she is. If every romanceable character is bisexual it would be... Well, I would scratch my head.

I dunno, maybe you're just not trying hard enough.

I like the officialish Bioware reply smilie too.

[Ladybright]

I'd bet that there will be same-sex romances. Thinking on it (and pulling back from the NEW GAME!!! frenzy) they wouldn't want to alienate their audience, no? People buying DA2 have likely bought and played DAO, which had same-sex romances, Bioware already has large, established audience who enjoyed/lived with them. It'll probably be fine.



Considering the general lack of information on anything, the best bet is probably to wait and see. Seven months isn't that long, anyway.

[Mystranna Kelteel]

Ladybright wrote...

I'd bet that there will be same-sex romances. Thinking on it (and pulling back from the NEW GAME!!! frenzy) they wouldn't want to alienate their audience, no? People buying DA2 have likely bought and played DAO, which had same-sex romances, Bioware already has large, established audience who enjoyed/lived with them. It'll probably be fine.

That's what I thought about Mass Effect 2, but it didn't happen. And on top of that, the devs even went so far as to try and claim that femShep and Liara wasn't a same-sex romance in ME1.

It wouldn't surprise me if they left them out of DA2, especially since they can use the same excuse they use for Shepard now that they have a "set character" and it's not totally up to the player who you want to be.

[Eternal Dust]

Jimmy Fury wrote...
Oo I've been waiting to use this for a month now after I had
a mid-shower epiphany but never had the patience to wander back into the ME2
GayShep threads.

All the companions being potential romance partners is not the
same as all of the companions being bisexual.

How?

Schrodinger’s cat.

NPC sexuality (all sexuality actually but only NPCs apply to this) doesn't even
exist until it is observed.

Watch. This functions under the idea of making all companions potential romance
partners.

PC: Male character
3 fem companions 3 male companions.

Before any dialogue occurs all 6 companions have the ability to be any
sexuality at all.

However, for the 3 females it is irrelevant. At no point in this playthrough
(AKA this game) will a female PC ever approach them. It's impossible. The PC is
male. Thus, the three remaining females are all attracted to men and that's all
you need to know. Whether it's because they're bi or straight is, again, irrelevant.

Now, once dialogue initiates you, the player, control the conversation. With
this power you can observe or not observe the sexuality of the three male
characters. Dialogue consists of a variety of conversation topics one of which
is flirty.

Therefore, by not picking the flirty option you eliminate the potential for the
character to be bi or gay. If you want to be bros with all three then don't
flirt. They will never flirt back and are therefore not romance options.
Whether this is because they're straight or just not attracted to the PC is irrelevant.

If you're into guys then you can, obviously, choose to flirt with them thus
observing that all three are attracted to males. It's not statistically
impossible to meet 2 bi guys and a gay guy, two gay guys and a bi guy, three bi
guys, or 3 gay guys, so it's not outside the realm of realism.

The DA universe has no established percentages of sexualities therefore there's
no way to argue statistical impossibilities anyway since there are no
statistics.
Now here's the important part. A new Game is a new set of observations. That's
immersion for ya. If you choose to think about the characters in terms of other
playthroughs that is your fault not theirs. Choose instead to view only the
game you are playing. If you play as female everything is the exact opposite.

In DA one did the fact that you could kill the werewolves or let them live mean
the werewolves were undead? No. Two different sets of observations made 2
different stories.

Same thing applies.

WOO! sorry, like i said I've been waiting ages to pull that one out

--edited for spelling mistakes induced by hyperactive writing. narf.--
--edited again for HOLY MOTHER OF GOD WHAT HAPPENED--

EXACTLY what I was thinking but could never express eloquently. The characters will remain straight in your game if you choose to approach them as such. Easy peasy, right?