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#426
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Luc0s wrote...

Okay, lets be fair here. I think Because we had so many different choices in DA:O, the actual story actually felt shallow to me. Sure, you had many different possible (origin) stories, but all of them where really shallow and not all to deep or impressive.

I think that what BioWare is doing, limiting on 1 race and 1 origin story is a good thing. Now they can create a deeper and more fleshed-out story with a more fleshed-out character. I mean lets be honest here folks, the player's Warden had a really shallow character, if he/she had any character at all... His/her personally was... well, WHAT personality? Did he/she even have a personality?


I like what they're doing, too.  Moments that should have been really profound, like confronting Jowan when he was in the Arl's castle, ended up feeling a little flat because of the neutrality with which they had to treat the warden, who could have been so different from person to person.  Narrowing the scope allows them to increase the depth, imo.  

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Magus_42 wrote...

So, as a separate thought, on the theme of constructive criticism, I don't think Bioware has done a very good job of managing their marketing message for this game, at least for PC players. You're taking a series that you pushed as the "spirtual successor" of probably the most loved PC game you've ever made, and you're saying the new game is nothing like that, now it's more extreme and easier to play on the consoles. That's fine, but you really need to be ready on day 1 to tell the older generation PC players what they get out of the new changes


There's a marketing problem, all right. Bio never said that they would be doing any of those things to the PC gameplay, but an awful lot of PC players somehow got the impression that they would.

How did people get that impression? Can anyone who got that impression remember how he got it?

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My concern: I don't want DA2 to become an ME2 with swords. Although BW stated in the first podcast that they wanted to preserve the features that made DAO a success, the other articles seem to indicate the opposite. But there is still more info to come in the months ahead. I was pleasantly surprised by DAO. Maybe that will happen with DA2 as well. Yet I remain skeptical.

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Hawke is human [Chris Priestly]



This , why cant Hawke ( This name is .... You know , argh ) be an Elf or Dwarf ?

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Well I actually prefer the set origin that is going to be presented in DA2. I'm not going to lie, I have only ever played Human noble and elf mage all the way through in the first DA. I've gone back and played every origin, but I deleted the save at ostagar. I absolutely love mass effect because i felt Shepherd was a more developed character than my soulless one in dragon age. The only thing I didn't like in DA was not being able to tell the "mood" of the lines for my character. I do not know how many times I have picked an option and trying to make a valid point only to find out that my character had said it sarcastically. I think the DA2 voice acting and dialogue wheel will fix this problem for me. I am a huge bioware fan and I always have been. I am very excited for DA2 for I love all of bioware's games so if they implement parts from previous titles I will be perfectly happy. I personally love the name Hawke. 

The only thing I hate about DA2 is all the negativity it is getting.

Modifié par SteamPunks, 31 juillet 2010 - 08:35 .


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I am deeply dissapointed in the direction BioWare seem to be turning with DA2. The ME games are very good, especially ME1. But they aren't really RPG's, they are third person shooter games with rpg elements (especially ME2). And what made Dragon Age so damn good, was that it was the first heavy rpg game we rpg fans have seen in a long time.



As I understand we will only be able to play one character named Hawke. I really dislike that, for several reasons. You feel less connected to some Shepard type character, than to a character you have created from the bottom. Having a voice and a chat wheel just makes it worse. I don't need voiceacting for my char in DA:O because its my character or "me" so I know in my head how he/she is saying it. And the chat wheel function was seriously flawed in ME, I cant count how many times Shepard said something completely different from what I imagined when I chose an option, or that he flipped it in a way I did not want him to do. I want to see exactly what I am going to say... I really fear the that the chat wheel function will drop the dialog-rpg down to the level of ME, which means that your dialog will have miniscule effects on the outcome. The problem with Shepard was that he had a personality, and I couldnt change it, I could just decide if he wanted to act witty or tough. In DA:O and Baldurs Gate it felt like I could decide my characters personality and I could "connect" with my character, "Yeah I got a level-up"... instead of "That bland/boring space commander guy got a level-up".



Hearing that the combat system has been revised is also a thing I am really concerned about. We already have too many action heavy "rpg's" or games that disguise themselves as rpg's, so I really hope BioWare doesnt fall in that trap. The animations in DA:O combat were beatiful, so if they just did something to them, so that the combated looked like it flowed even better, would be a good thing. Sadly I think that they want to appease the console crowd by turning the combat into something that focuses on pressing lots of buttons and doing cool moves.



I don't know, I just love the old school rpg's like BG, BG2, Fallout, Fallout2, Torment and such, and that was the main reason I loved DA:O, it actually followed in BG's footsteps and it was damn good.

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i sucks to see dragon age become like mass effect. I wanted to create my own character, and create a background for my character, like in DA:O. But they had to make hawke, the shepard to DA2. Also i was hoping to see all characters reunited in another expansion for origins. Oh wells :(

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Imba Necrothreading! How many points you spent on it??!?!

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I am very disappointed by the demo , First of all by the New Look of the
characters and the gameplay it feels like AJapanese MANGA like
videogame , Id I wanted Final fantasy I'd buy that , what happened to
the old RPG game like Dragon age that was the evolution of Baldurs now
it a 3d arcate hack and slash WTF !
I was highly anticipating the
game , just this change made me ruin the wait and btw thankyou for
making the demo now I know I will have to delete my prenotation .....
Second
of all all those combolike again Japanstyle bah what's happening to
good games why when they come to the N2 are getting totally ****ed
up? The same Happened to Crysis 2 multiplayer now even Dragonage it
become a puppet like arcade game ala Japan style with those 8 handed
swords and so on crap !....
An arcade shooting???
Predetermined path , no interaction , just hit and slash stuff wtf ...

#435
XBenotto18

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Prometheus_ts wrote...

I am very disappointed by the demo , First of all by the New Look of the
characters and the gameplay it feels like AJapanese MANGA like
videogame , Id I wanted Final fantasy I'd buy that , what happened to
the old RPG game like Dragon age that was the evolution of Baldurs now
it a 3d arcate hack and slash WTF !
I was highly anticipating the
game , just this change made me ruin the wait and btw thankyou for
making the demo now I know I will have to delete my prenotation .....
Second
of all all those combolike again Japanstyle bah what's happening to
good games why when they come to the N2 are getting totally ****ed
up? The same Happened to Crysis 2 multiplayer now even Dragonage it
become a puppet like arcade game ala Japan style with those 8 handed
swords and so on crap !....
An arcade shooting???
Predetermined path , no interaction , just hit and slash stuff wtf ...



you drag up a 7 month thread, to talk about the demo. post it in the demo feedback

#436
Prometheus_ts

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XBenotto18 wrote...

Prometheus_ts wrote...

I am very disappointed by the demo , First of all by the New Look of the
characters and the gameplay it feels like AJapanese MANGA like
videogame , Id I wanted Final fantasy I'd buy that , what happened to
the old RPG game like Dragon age that was the evolution of Baldurs now
it a 3d arcate hack and slash WTF !
I was highly anticipating the
game , just this change made me ruin the wait and btw thankyou for
making the demo now I know I will have to delete my prenotation .....
Second
of all all those combolike again Japanstyle bah what's happening to
good games why when they come to the N2 are getting totally ****ed
up? The same Happened to Crysis 2 multiplayer now even Dragonage it
become a puppet like arcade game ala Japan style with those 8 handed
swords and so on crap !....
An arcade shooting???
Predetermined path , no interaction , just hit and slash stuff wtf ...



you drag up a 7 month thread, to talk about the demo. post it in the demo feedback

I looked for a complain thread and it was closed and pointed to this one ...

#437
XBenotto18

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Prometheus_ts wrote...

XBenotto18 wrote...

Prometheus_ts wrote...

I am very disappointed by the demo , First of all by the New Look of the
characters and the gameplay it feels like AJapanese MANGA like
videogame , Id I wanted Final fantasy I'd buy that , what happened to
the old RPG game like Dragon age that was the evolution of Baldurs now
it a 3d arcate hack and slash WTF !
I was highly anticipating the
game , just this change made me ruin the wait and btw thankyou for
making the demo now I know I will have to delete my prenotation .....
Second
of all all those combolike again Japanstyle bah what's happening to
good games why when they come to the N2 are getting totally ****ed
up? The same Happened to Crysis 2 multiplayer now even Dragonage it
become a puppet like arcade game ala Japan style with those 8 handed
swords and so on crap !....
An arcade shooting???
Predetermined path , no interaction , just hit and slash stuff wtf ...



you drag up a 7 month thread, to talk about the demo. post it in the demo feedback

I looked for a complain thread and it was closed and pointed to this one ...


a complaint about the demo is still feeback. their is a feedback thread.