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[Khayness]

My 2 cents from another topic.

Khayness wrote...



As reading is my second favourite past time I have no trouble with it and I totally despite this idea of having a Dialogue Wheel.

Its options and the actual voiced line doesn't match and in a lot of cases it results in out-of-character answers.

The Gothic series and The Witcher has fully voiced main characters, and their dialoge systems are great.

[Riona45]

Khayness wrote...

Its options and the actual voiced line doesn't match and in a lot of cases it results in out-of-character answers.

I find this point to be way overstated but maybe that's just me.

[Khayness]

Riona45 wrote...

I find this point to be way overstated but maybe that's just me.

I just recently played through a colonist Shep and the "What a waste of time" renegade option resulted in a jerkish insult towards the female colonial survivor I just sedated. Worthy of a reload (for me).
And there are several more cases.

[Riona45]

Khayness wrote...

I just recently played through a colonist Shep and the "What a waste of time" renegade option resulted in a jerkish insult towards the female colonial survivor I just sedated. Worthy of a reload (for me).
And there are several more cases.

You thought saying "what a waste of time" would result in Shepard being sympathetic?

[Khayness]

More like "I've got a galaxy to save, dammit" answer.

[rooky91]

My biggest worries are only a few...



1.) Voice actor will be the typical American action hero (obviously not announced but worried this will be the case)



2.) Having a predefinded character will limit the experience.



3.) Will actions carry over?

[sonlockdon]

it may be biowares game but they need to do what fans and buyers want in order to make money if im not correct, why would fans buy a game they dont wantm, so if they want the money they have to make the game the way fans want.

[PilotSanders]

All I can say is what the **** Bioware. I was hoping on using my past character from origins and awakening to continue on the grand quest to restore the wardens to their former glory and to discover a deeper understanding to the darkspawn threat.

Also there where many unanswered questions that I was hoping to find out in the new sequel as if you romanced Morrigan. Will you see her again and what will become of the child that is supposly an old GOD.

Suriously leave it to EA to destroy Bioware's franchise. Next thing we will know is that they make some kind of DragonAge Call of Duty piece of crap.

Modifié par PilotSanders, 10 juillet 2010 - 11:22 .

[ECV Press]

I'm concerned that we be able to make decisions instead of watch fancy cut scenes. I got so bored w WOW because there were no interactions (outside of player to player). Replaying DA:O was so fun because it changed based on your race and origin---different choices to make, different consequences. Making those decisions becomes meaningless if there is no affect on the world. But if we're in the Free Marches, that may not matter. Bioware can still create a DA3 where we get to import our character from DA:O. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that they are working on this! Then, we'll get to have our cake and eat it too!

[LadyLuminary]

I'm very disappointed that BioWare chose to completely leave our Wardens at the wayside. I grew to love my Tinuviel, my elf mage, with every new objective. She was not me, and I was not her, but I felt her sorrow, her pain, her joy.



BioWare took all of that and threw it away. My biggest fear is that DA2 just won't be able to hold a candle to Dragon Age: Origins. I'm afraid that it'll feel forced, that it just can't compete with its predecessor.



I just hope BioWare knows what they're doing.

[Spawny]

I'm worried the dialog in Lelianas song is what will be used for DA2 and LS was the testing of DA fans reactions to it I really like knowing what my character is going to say, not completely different stuff to what the text says that I clicked on. The voiced character bit does annoy me to no end. And I wish they had allowed different races.

[tbsking]

I didn't mind having it work that way in Leliana's song, seeing as she was a predefined character with her own personality etc. I didn't quite like how what I clicked on was nothing like what she said. I really dislike my character having a VO; it ruins immersion.

[Tezzajh]

2 things mass effect wheel i dont want talking yes wheel no



it will be full of bugs they havent even fixed the first game so how can they make the 2nd perfect? in just over a year

[Icinix]

I'm not really concerned too much about this game, maybe slightly disappointed at not being able to choose a race, but I'm pretty certain I'll get over that in about five minutes of game time.



As far as voicing the main character goes, I remember hearing about that for the first Mass Effect and just thinking how fantastic it was. Same in this case, as far as I'm concerned, having the avatar as a fully voiced character is the way of the future, non voiced text boxes have been around for so long it's nice to see a company pushing away from what is an outdated method.



Also the game as a whole sounds really exciting for the the way the story is approached, with the story being all about the characters development instead of meet protagonist, find way to defeat protagonist, defeat protagonist. This ten year span and so on sounds really intriguing.



Bring it on I say.

[RavenholmeCP42]

screwoffreg wrote...

I don't get it. Dragon Age sold better than ME 2, so why are they taking elements of ME 2 in DA 2? Hmmmm...at least I can always love Morrowind...

Pretty much my thoughts. Oh well, roll on Dragon Effect/Mass Fantasy 2.  I probably won't be buying it, but then, I've been losing a lot of faith in Bioware of late.

And don't get me started on that "HAWKE IS HUMAN" thing, that's just annoying/stupid. Yeah, that's right bioware, take away all the customisation that made DAO great and replace it with the bland tasteless gruel of HAVING to play a human, I am human, in my fantasy games I rarely if ever play them.

Modifié par RavenholmeCP42, 11 juillet 2010 - 12:28 .

[STEllUS-Swei]

My only concern is that even though i loved masseffect 1-2 /Jade /Kotor Etc....



But i loved NWN, BG. DA:O



And i liked them in diffrent ways ME,KOTOR&Jade" were more behind the back view Gothic style.

Whilst Dragon Age was more like BG & NWN.



I just feel like their killing of their more classic Rpg-styles and replaceing them with only the Gothic like version.



The fact is what made DA:O so popular was that it was going to be like BG, NWN in the type of game Spiritual successor & now they are taking away all that wich was BG.NWN.



I hope the Rumors are wrong & i will be very dissapointed if they're true.

I Guess bioware will do whats best thnx for listening people



VWG//STEllUS-Swei

[tbsking]

I think for a lot of us, the bottom line is that we crafted the Warden from the ground up. Sure there were things decided for us, but we've had time to create a personality and a character that we've fallen in love with. Hawke, and even if it were someone else, is just not that person. As great as he may end up being, he didn't fall in love with Morrigan, our Warden did.



He didn't fight a high dragon for its scales. Our Warden did.



His family wasn't slaughtered by Arl Howe, thus sending us on a roaring rampage of revenge. Our Warden's was.



He's just not our Warden. And for now, that's pretty annoying.



Maybe I'll eat my words, and like him just as well, but right now, he's the "new guy" And I don't really care for him.

[Riona45]

tbsking wrote...

I think for a lot of us, the bottom line is that we crafted the Warden from the ground up. Sure there were things decided for us, but we've had time to create a personality and a character that we've fallen in love with. Hawke, and even if it were someone else, is just not that person. As great as he may end up being, he didn't fall in love with Morrigan, our Warden did.

He didn't fight a high dragon for its scales. Our Warden did.

His family wasn't slaughtered by Arl Howe, thus sending us on a roaring rampage of revenge. Our Warden's was.

He's just not our Warden. And for now, that's pretty annoying.

"Our" Warden?  My Warden was a she, and she only did only one out of the three things you mentioned.  Anyway, while I love her, I'll bet I'll love Hawke as well, will be able to shape her (I haven't read anything to the contrary) and will be able to do lots of fun and memorable things with her character, too.

[Gyroscopic_Trout]

This is just a thought, but have they actually said there will be no origins? For all we know, 'Hawke' (that name just sounds weird) will get to choose a background just like Shapard in ME, and his starting location and circumstances will change depending on your choice.



As for concerns, my big one is that our Wardens will simply be retconned out of the series and never heard from again (like most people it seems). I call bull on the Awakenings epilogue text, and I think most other fans do too. At the very least, I hope we get a KotOR2 style mentioning of our Warden, or ideally have them show up as an NPC. Maybe they'll return in DA3 and kick Hawke's arse or something.



But again, we don't know what's what yet. My only genuine beef at this point is that I don't like the name Hawke, and everything else they've said so far seems pretty cool and I'd hate to speculate on anything else. I will say that I'm surprised at the gulf between Mass Effect and Dragon Age fans; I wouldn't have thought people here would resent ME so much.

[Icinix]

Riona45 wrote...

tbsking wrote...

I think for a lot of us, the bottom line is that we crafted the Warden from the ground up. Sure there were things decided for us, but we've had time to create a personality and a character that we've fallen in love with. Hawke, and even if it were someone else, is just not that person. As great as he may end up being, he didn't fall in love with Morrigan, our Warden did.

He didn't fight a high dragon for its scales. Our Warden did.

His family wasn't slaughtered by Arl Howe, thus sending us on a roaring rampage of revenge. Our Warden's was.

He's just not our Warden. And for now, that's pretty annoying.

"Our" Warden?  My Warden was a she, and she only did only one out of the three things you mentioned.  Anyway, while I love her, I'll bet I'll love Hawke as well, will be able to shape her (I haven't read anything to the contrary) and will be able to do lots of fun and memorable things with her character, too.

Exactly, choices and actions will still be determined by the player.  The determination of 'your' Hawke will still be entirely in the hands on the game player.  Only now with a voice.

[tbsking]

Icinix wrote...

Riona45 wrote...

tbsking wrote...

I think for a lot of us, the bottom line is that we crafted the Warden from the ground up. Sure there were things decided for us, but we've had time to create a personality and a character that we've fallen in love with. Hawke, and even if it were someone else, is just not that person. As great as he may end up being, he didn't fall in love with Morrigan, our Warden did.

He didn't fight a high dragon for its scales. Our Warden did.

His family wasn't slaughtered by Arl Howe, thus sending us on a roaring rampage of revenge. Our Warden's was.

He's just not our Warden. And for now, that's pretty annoying.

"Our" Warden?  My Warden was a she, and she only did only one out of the three things you mentioned.  Anyway, while I love her, I'll bet I'll love Hawke as well, will be able to shape her (I haven't read anything to the contrary) and will be able to do lots of fun and memorable things with her character, too.

Exactly, choices and actions will still be determined by the player.  The determination of 'your' Hawke will still be entirely in the hands on the game player.  Only now with a voice.

Right. But Hawke has a background: refugee from Lothering. He already
has a race, and a voice. I'm against a voiced protagonist in open RPGs
like these because it makes immersion more difficult. He'll likely
always have three general choices to choose from: jerk, hero, and
mercenary. It's not the same as being able to imagine how the Warden
responds to a character.

I was hoping for a few Male Couslands
here, but whatev. The point is, at this point in time we've all
established our own Wardens, obviously different from each other's and
thus had a seperate experience from one another. Hawke is something that
we all have to experience, and that cheapens it.

Surely we'll
have some say in what he does over the course of the game, but in the
end it isn't the same as crafting our protagonist in DAO. More
importantly, the Warden's story is yet to be complete, at least for
those of us still alive and kicking. It just seems like they slighted a
very strong story arc in favor of introducing a brand new character who
has little to do with the yet-to-be-completed tale of the Warden.

Modifié par tbsking, 11 juillet 2010 - 01:02 .

[AmstradHero]

Well, I made this point in another thread, but it was apparently ignored. My concern?

That BioWare does listen to fans, and that it listens through means like this:
http://social.biowar...bw_projects.php
and
http://www.dragonage...top/alltime.php

If you want someone to blame for the supposed direction that DA2 is going (and I'm not at all convinced we have enough information to decide that yet), then blame the players for their decision of the best mods for Dragon Age. Because according to those lists, players don't want quests, character interaction, an interesting story and meaningful choices; players apparently want pretty people, big loot, big breasts and sex.

Don't blame the designers, but instead realise you as a player have to take responsibility for the games that are developed by their popularity and sales. Of course, it's far easier to say some else is at fault rather than admitting you are.

Yes, I know I am coming from a biased position as a modder, but the numbers speak for themselves.

[Gyroscopic_Trout]

tbsking wrote...

Right. But Hawke has a background: refugee from Lothering. He already
has a race, and a voice. I'm against a voiced protagonist in open RPGs
like these because it makes immersion more difficult. He'll likely
always have three general choices to choose from: jerk, hero, and
mercenary. It's not the same as being able to imagine how the Warden
responds to a character.

The Witcher had full voice acting, and it didn't fall into the paragon/renegade/neutral mold.  Nor did Leliana's Song.  When they declare that DA2 will have a brand new morality system, then I'd get concerned.

AmstradHero wrote...

Well, I made this point in another
thread, but it was apparently ignored. My concern?

That BioWare does
listen to fans, and that it listens through means like this:
http://social.biowar...bw_projects.php
and

http://www.dragonage...top/alltime.php

If
you want someone to blame for the supposed direction that DA2 is going
(and I'm not at all convinced we have enough information to decide that
yet), then blame the players for their decision of the best mods for
Dragon Age. Because according to those lists, players don't want quests,
character interaction, an interesting story and meaningful choices;
players apparently want pretty people, big loot, big breasts and sex.

Don't
blame the designers, but instead realise you as a player have to take
responsibility for the games that are developed by their popularity and
sales. Of course, it's far easier to say some else is at fault rather
than admitting you are.

Yes, I know I am coming from a biased
position as a modder, but the numbers speak for themselves.

So you're saying that DA2 will be DOA:  Medieval?  That's a bit of a stretch, getting all that from what scant information we have now.  I seriously doubt developers listen to any of the pervs at the nexus sites; if they do, then Elder Scrolls V is going to be weird....

Modifié par Gyroscopic_Trout, 11 juillet 2010 - 01:18 .

[Teredan]

As many before mentioned my biggest concern for DA2 would be that it will end up as a MassEffect2 style game in a different universe. That by far wouldn't be a bad thing but it would be pretty boring. I like that Bioware has so far released very different kind of RPGs while maintaining their own signature in all those games.



I am intrigued by the fact that the story spans over a set time period(10 years) which seems to have some kind of significance to the form of story telling. It reminds me of Assassins Creed 2 where the story also spans over many years. Although it only did had cosmetical effect on the character while the world felt more or less the same, i am excited to see how bioware decides what effects time will have in their world.