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Tirigon wrote...

I want an Elven LI. It´sucks enough that I can´t play an elf, I want at least date one......

Ah yes this^^. Sadly no Elven F LI in DAO. Hopefully theres one in DA2.

Hopefully the romances in DA2 would be deeper considering that the romances in both ME games imo wasn't exactly great, DAO's romance was more tasteful in my opinion with the gradual build up as compared to talking to liara and her wanting to bone you after two conversations.

And as someone said, would definately like to see squadmates falling in love with other squadmates, would be a nice thing for a change rather than always the protagonist being romantically involved.

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I wouldnt mind if the other characters in your party started romancing each other. I think that be pretty cool.

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Prisoner24601 wrote...

Since they insist on putting a Canderous clone in nearly every one of their games, I think it's time to let the ladies start romancing him. Romancing the tough badass merc/warrior guy would make a nice change of pace especially for those of us who don't find emotional virgin awkward dudes their cup of tea.


I couldn't agree more.

Not all female gamers give a damn about the knight in shining armor. The rose, the virginity, I am glad many liked it - I didn't. Apologies to his fans, but for the most part I felt I was stuck with a mopey David Hasselhoff in my camp. Why my heroine would want to talk about his emotional baggage, after
slaying hordes of darkspawn all day, is beyond me.

Give us Canderous!

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Fangirl17 wrote...

Okay I see a thread about same sex romances but not one about the romances in general,so out of curiousity I will make a this thread.

So, what are your hope and dreams about the romances in DA2? What kind of characters do you want to romance?

They better make an awesome male character to replace Alistair Image IPB and Im sure they will.


Hi Fangirl, great topic! Image IPB

Hmmm let's see...

I have loved the personalities of the male characters in the DA world so far. Well I just loved Alistair and I would have loved to see a romance involving Image IPBNathaniel, Justice or Anders,Image IPB they were lovely characters too.

It would be wonderful if there was a choice as in DA origins.

For instance many ladies loved the Alistair Image IPBchoice but also many loved the 'bad boy' Zevran.

Mass Effect 2 romance styles didnt work for me, there was not enough dialogue or chances to really 'get to know' the romanceable character. (Well I did love the Image IPBKaidenImage IPB romance..'swoon' but there should have been more lovey dovey stuff with him, hehe)

So I just hope we have more interesting and lovable male and female companions to chat too, romance and have fun
and adventure with For me choices are SO important.

Another reason I love choices because then I have another reason to replay the game to see how an alternate romance choice would play out. DA origins is the only game in my long history of gaming that I have replayed over and over and over and over (and so on) Much of that was because of the romance options and of course the origins options and ending options.

Lets hope they give us more of that replayability with DA2.

Oh and I love the romanceable characters to be funny, that always goes down well! I had a real soft spot for Nathaniel and he was very serious and intense at times so thats attractive too!

I just love LOVE! Image IPB I can't wait to see what Bioware comes up with!

Oh and I am also hoping other developers jump on the bandwagon and start trying to compete with Bioware with this as there are too few good games with romance in them. Image IPBImage IPBImage IPB



Well, I agree with 99% of what you said.  :)  

I liked the romances in ME1 but even with that, I would have liked more dialog.  I was hoping for KOTOR dialog with the teasing and humor.  and having them talk to you while you were walking around.   Even when your saving the world, funny things happen.  

I thought the dialog in DA was much better, but I have continued to play ME1  and now ME2 because I can't get past the ending choices on DA, I know it's my hang up but there you go.  

I'm hoping DA2 keeps their dialog style and enhances it and also ME3 increases their dialog by a lot.

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Blackbaron15 wrote...

I wouldnt mind if the other characters in your party started romancing each other. I think that be pretty cool.


This.

Especially with all the time they spend together.

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What?! Not a single teasing post from one of the writers? Hmmm, I guess it's too early for that. Bummer, that's always my favorite part of these threads... well, that and the speculation that follows after the teasing. ;)

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I'd like to see a love interest for a female Hawke that offers something new.  Anomen/Carth/Kaiden/Thane/Alistair all covered the paladin "let's save the world together" type.

It's supposed to be a dark and gritty world. I am tired of seeing the "loyal soldier, devoted father/widower mourning his long dead wife" kinda guy. Where is the male companion that will enjoy blowing up stuff with me or slaughtering the innocent?

Give us a Canderous, (better looking) Zaeed or another Atton.


i would hope they will give us both.

I liked Atlon and Canderous (a big ol' soft teddybear in my game) , Zevran not so much until I gave him darker hair and a face from a  modder and even then he really didn't appeal to me much.   I don't want to have just the bad boy or the good guy.  I want them both.  

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JoePinasi1989 wrote...

Tooneyman wrote...

Ailith430 wrote...

JoePinasi1989 wrote...

Fangirl17 wrote...

That would be cute for a party member to fall in love with another party member ^^ And you could talk about it to the party member. Like tease him/her about it or play match maker and push for them to get together.


Heh, well that's a good idea!

Funnily enough it never crossed my mind, but now that I saw it, my first reaction was "what, why didn't they try something like this already?"


I seem to recall the DEVs for ME1 saying they had intended for Kaiden and Ashley to hookup assuming the player either didnt romance anyone or romanced Liara, but this was of course scrapped for obvious reasons if you beat the game.

So...We know it's crossed their minds at one point at least.


It would actually be interesting to see a few companions getting a little flirty with one another in the game. It would definitely make the world seem more real. NPC with their own romances going on within the group and having a few conversation. With our hawke and his comments on it. I just see epic and greatness here. Image IPB


Exactly!



mopotter wrote...

This is where it shows that everything is subject to personal preferences.

I loved the Alistair relationship and I felt the love he had for whoever I was playing. He is the guy you marry and live happily with for the rest of your life. He's not for everyone, but he was close enough to perfect for a lot of us. And maybe I misunderstood your post, but Respecting women is a good thing, if they respect you. Alistair was a friend and a lover. That's a combination that is hard to beat.

Zevran was a good character. i killed him more than once. Sexual experience does not necessarily mean a good future and while one of my elves saw a future with him, He was not a character I was drawn too and that is part of the joy of rpgs. Especially ones where BioWare gives us different options.

ME1 did need more conversations and ME2, well more e-mails from Kaidan would have been welcome. Plus I agree we should be able to be friends with them. I liked this in DA. But i enjoyed the Kaidan romance a lot. Liked talking to him. Probably for the same reason as I enjoyed the Alistair one. I liked the character.

I'm not sure how I would feel about getting married during the game play. I'm all for as many choices as possible but I have big doubts about marriage and kids. I wouldn't mind one of my companions leaving to get married and have kids and 8 or 9 years later coming back for some reason. I will wait and see. I don't think they would go the Fable route. (at least hope not)



You definitely misunderstood my post!

 Then I apologize :)

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5ubzer0 wrote...

Not all female gamers give a damn about the knight in shining armor. The rose, the virginity, I am glad many liked it - I didn't. Apologies to his fans, but for the most part I felt I was stuck with a mopey David Hasselhoff in my camp. Why my heroine would want to talk about his emotional baggage, after slaying hordes of darkspawn all day, is beyond me.

Give us Canderous!


Yeah, I mean I thought Alistair had a well written romance that really just didn't appeal to me on a purely subjective level.  I like Alistair as a character quite a bit, I find him interesting but really I really couldn't take him seriously as a love interest  Frankly, he was just too young, immature and naive for me (which are the things I find interesting about him oddly enough), and more of a little brother type.

I want the grizzled war vetran, middle aged, warrior/merc badass who has been around the block and lives for battle.

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Okay, you've convinced me. Now I want a Canderous, too. Or an Atton, minus the redemption part. Unrepentant evil people need love, too.

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I would like to see some sort of reaction from the love interest should you fall in battle or start to take a bad beating.


Very much this. I wished the prison thing in DA:O had something like this where if you were romancing a companion they'd have a unique reaction in the cutscenes.

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Jimmy Fury wrote...

wwwwowwww wrote...
I would like to see some sort of reaction from the love interest should you fall in battle or start to take a bad beating.


Very much this. I wished the prison thing in DA:O had something like this where if you were romancing a companion they'd have a unique reaction in the cutscenes.


Well you can't have a cinametic interruption during every fight it would slow the pace of the combat down and get really annoying. Now hearing hawke say a couple catch phrases would be cool, but those  would get annoying too.
HEres ones. I'm coming my love. NOOOOOOO!

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Tooneyman wrote...

Jimmy Fury wrote...

wwwwowwww wrote...
I would like to see some sort of reaction from the love interest should you fall in battle or start to take a bad beating.


Very much this. I wished the prison thing in DA:O had something like this where if you were romancing a companion they'd have a unique reaction in the cutscenes.


Well you can't have a cinametic interruption during every fight it would slow the pace of the combat down and get really annoying. Now hearing hawke say a couple catch phrases would be cool, but those  would get annoying too.
HEres ones. I'm coming my love. NOOOOOOO!


Never said every fight. Extreme situations. If you're being dragged into a pit by darkspawn or you're locked in a fortress or something. It would be nice if you fiancé actually cared a little.

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Jimmy Fury wrote...

Tooneyman wrote...

Jimmy Fury wrote...

wwwwowwww wrote...
I would like to see some sort of reaction from the love interest should you fall in battle or start to take a bad beating.


Very much this. I wished the prison thing in DA:O had something like this where if you were romancing a companion they'd have a unique reaction in the cutscenes.


Well you can't have a cinametic interruption during every fight it would slow the pace of the combat down and get really annoying. Now hearing hawke say a couple catch phrases would be cool, but those  would get annoying too.
HEres ones. I'm coming my love. NOOOOOOO!


Never said every fight. Extreme situations. If you're being dragged into a pit by darkspawn or you're locked in a fortress or something. It would be nice if you fiancé actually cared a little.


Actually that could have been done well in Origins when you where captured and went to prison.

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Yamo425 wrote...

Personally I hope there is no "romance". Ever since Mass Effect, it seems like every BioWare game is almost as much as a dating sim as it is an RPG. I mean seriously, there are a couple 30 second sex scenes in Mass Effect and people fall in LOVE with the characters. 

It's ridiculous.


Amen brother. But given that BioWare isn't a studio that's out to take risks or push the envelope, things are going to be the same.

I mean, hey, sure it's kinda fun I guess. But it's not a sign of good writing, that's for damn sure

The problem with a lot of the romances is that BioWare inevitably ends up using the same shy/nice guy or ice queen as the love interest every single time. It's boring and you can see it coming a mile away. How many times am I going t have to meet Carth/Alistair/Kaiden or Mission/Liara or Bastila/Miranda/Morrigan? If anything, it's lazy writing.

But, since the fans would throw a hissy fit if there were no romances (having Shepard nail Miranda was kinda fun, but I don't really care either way) if you must include them, try to use different types of characters this time.

Zevran openly confessed he likes you and had sex with others quite a bit, even other males, your statement is irrelevant.

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Seconding the idea of having more issues/discussion to go through after the sexy time. Kind of more like it was with the Morrigan romance. I enjoyed that you were still working through her issues/feelings. It sucks when there isn't really anything else going on after courting is over in DA, it makes you want to break up and get with someone else because it feels stale, and not in a "sweet hereafter" kind of way.



It would be great if things would come up that would threaten the relationship or make it stronger.

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mopotter wrote...I liked the romances in ME1 but even with that, I would have liked more dialog.  I was hoping for KOTOR dialog with the teasing and humor.  and having them talk to you while you were walking around.   Even when your saving the world, funny things happen.  

I was not a fan of the romances in ME.  Either 1 or 2.  They didn't develop...they just all of the sudden were there.  When Kaiden told me in ME1 that he wanted to "see this through" (or however he phrased it), it took me a few minutes to figure out he was talking about "us".

And the endings....no thanks.  Although Garrus' in ME2 was a little cute, Jacob's made me want to cringe behind my chair and Thane.....well, he wasn't concerned about you dying....just himself.

DAO had much better romances.  Although I still wasn't overly impressed with the in-game endings (a little more of a good-luck romance before the final showdown would have been nice), I was happy with their epilogues.  But in all these games, the romance is so one-way.  The NPCs are all about themselves and they leave me feeling like this: http://www.youtube.c...h?v=OS_2RRQZodw

Overall, I would like to see these things in DA2 romances (some of which were already in DAO):

1.  Gradual and logical progression:  Don't tell me you love me because I cleaned your sword (no euphemism intended).  Image IPB  I thought DAO had a nice bit of romantic dialogue and led up to things nicely.  But I admit I'm greedy.  I'll take a lot more.   And they didn't just get to the romance.  You had to earn it and spend time getting to know the NPCs.  I liked that.  Let's get to know each other first.  Emphasis on the "each other."  See #2.

2.  Make the NPCs get to know me.  I would love to be chased a little.  Zevran was the closest to that, but let's face it...he was just a sexhound.  I want them to ask about me...where do I come from, how do I feel about this or that, what's made me into the person I am, do I want kids, where do I see myself in 5 years, do I like paper or plastic...Which brings me to #3:

3.  Give me people who care about what happens to me:  If my family is slaughtered, tell me how sorry you are.  If I get the crap beat out of me or I'm torn apart emotionally by some tragic event, ask me how I am.  I'm really tired of NPCs worrying about each other and expecting me to be tough enough to deal with it.  Let me be comforted, too.  Especially by my romanceable.  Let them catch me by surprise with a thoughtful gift to cheer me up, or pull me aside to ask if I'm okay.

4.  Romanceable NPCs that give me a break.  Zevran and Alistair would let you flirt around, up to a point, and you could win their favor back by giving gifts.  That was nice.  I don't like having one mistake or a little disagreement to totally end the whole affair.  And up to a certain point, you should be able to flirt with multiple people without bad consequences.

5.   In keeping with the ending line of #4, I'd like romanceable NPCs that stay true to themselves.  I think the DAO team did a good job of this with Alistair and Zevran.   Alistair wouldn't sleep with you until he really felt a connection.  Zevran would take you back after you dumped him for Alistair (though Alistair was done with you once you turned him down).  I liked the consistency of their characters.

6.  Attitudes and dialogue that change as you progress.  BG2 made me so mad when Anomen would keep saying, "What is it NOW?" after we were a couple.  DAO added the nice touch of new responses for various stages in your romance.  Thank you...don't drop the ball!

7.  A nice little scene and dialogue with just me and my romanceable NPC before the final showdown.  Yeah, I like the closure with the group.  But it only makes sense that there would be *something* more going on with you and your beloved.  ME totally failed in this.  You don't need to voice a commitment in order to show you care, but you can say *something* .  At least Kaiden *did* tell me he didn't know what he'd do without me and we did have one last night together...for what it was worth.  Alistair didn't even bother to ask me in for one last fling!  Come on, writers!  Give us a "night before the final battle dialogue" that will curl our toes and make us beg for more!!

8.  Someone(s) who pine(s) for me.  After I turned Zevran or Alistair down, I wouldn't have minded seeing a little angst from time to time.  Then, at the end, they could tell me how they still loved me (or that they'd always love me) and hoped I'd be safe.  Or it could be someone who you'd been with all along and never suspected a thing....how awesome if Sten came up at the final DAO battle and said how much he wished things had been different!  Or Bann Teagan, or Ser Perth, etc.  (No, the dog would not be a cool alternative pining love interest.  Just...ew.) Image IPB

I guess that's about it.  Not much of a list or too much to ask for, is it?  LOL!  Hey, it IS all about ME, ya know.  Image IPB

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so you are still continuing your ******-crusade to turn video games to bunch of craps. by misusing love and sophistication to make it as normal as necessity of eating food.

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I think voice actor selection is key for me b/c if I am going to be listening to him talk a lot then I better love the resonance of his voice ; )

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Wow the thread grew quite a bit while I was asleep :D



Thanks for posting guys!Hopefully the devs will read this so keep it up!

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 Hehe they're locking other romance threads :bandit:

Yess my thread shall become THE romance thread.

Mwahahaha  >:D

Edit: lol Why does my thread die when I am online and then come back to life when I am offline?:pinched: Is it me?Am I that uncool? :P

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n2nw wrote...


mopotter wrote...I liked the romances in ME1 but even with that, I would have liked more dialog.  I was hoping for KOTOR dialog with the teasing and humor.  and having them talk to you while you were walking around.   Even when your saving the world, funny things happen.  

I was not a fan of the romances in ME.  Either 1 or 2.  They didn't develop...they just all of the sudden were there.  When Kaiden told me in ME1 that he wanted to "see this through" (or however he phrased it), it took me a few minutes to figure out he was talking about "us".

And the endings....no thanks.  Although Garrus' in ME2 was a little cute, Jacob's made me want to cringe behind my chair and Thane.....well, he wasn't concerned about you dying....just himself.

DAO had much better romances.  Although I still wasn't overly impressed with the in-game endings (a little more of a good-luck romance before the final showdown would have been nice), I was happy with their epilogues.  But in all these games, the romance is so one-way.  The NPCs are all about themselves and they leave me feeling like this: http://www.youtube.c...h?v=OS_2RRQZodw

Overall, I would like to see these things in DA2 romances (some of which were already in DAO):

1.  Gradual and logical progression:  Don't tell me you love me because I cleaned your sword (no euphemism intended).  Image IPB  I thought DAO had a nice bit of romantic dialogue and led up to things nicely.  But I admit I'm greedy.  I'll take a lot more.   And they didn't just get to the romance.  You had to earn it and spend time getting to know the NPCs.  I liked that.  Let's get to know each other first.  Emphasis on the "each other."  See #2.

2.  Make the NPCs get to know me.  I would love to be chased a little.  Zevran was the closest to that, but let's face it...he was just a sexhound.  I want them to ask about me...where do I come from, how do I feel about this or that, what's made me into the person I am, do I want kids, where do I see myself in 5 years, do I like paper or plastic...Which brings me to #3:

3.  Give me people who care about what happens to me:  If my family is slaughtered, tell me how sorry you are.  If I get the crap beat out of me or I'm torn apart emotionally by some tragic event, ask me how I am.  I'm really tired of NPCs worrying about each other and expecting me to be tough enough to deal with it.  Let me be comforted, too.  Especially by my romanceable.  Let them catch me by surprise with a thoughtful gift to cheer me up, or pull me aside to ask if I'm okay.

4.  Romanceable NPCs that give me a break.  Zevran and Alistair would let you flirt around, up to a point, and you could win their favor back by giving gifts.  That was nice.  I don't like having one mistake or a little disagreement to totally end the whole affair.  And up to a certain point, you should be able to flirt with multiple people without bad consequences.

5.   In keeping with the ending line of #4, I'd like romanceable NPCs that stay true to themselves.  I think the DAO team did a good job of this with Alistair and Zevran.   Alistair wouldn't sleep with you until he really felt a connection.  Zevran would take you back after you dumped him for Alistair (though Alistair was done with you once you turned him down).  I liked the consistency of their characters.

6.  Attitudes and dialogue that change as you progress.  BG2 made me so mad when Anomen would keep saying, "What is it NOW?" after we were a couple.  DAO added the nice touch of new responses for various stages in your romance.  Thank you...don't drop the ball!

7.  A nice little scene and dialogue with just me and my romanceable NPC before the final showdown.  Yeah, I like the closure with the group.  But it only makes sense that there would be *something* more going on with you and your beloved.  ME totally failed in this.  You don't need to voice a commitment in order to show you care, but you can say *something* .  At least Kaiden *did* tell me he didn't know what he'd do without me and we did have one last night together...for what it was worth.  Alistair didn't even bother to ask me in for one last fling!  Come on, writers!  Give us a "night before the final battle dialogue" that will curl our toes and make us beg for more!!

8.  Someone(s) who pine(s) for me.  After I turned Zevran or Alistair down, I wouldn't have minded seeing a little angst from time to time.  Then, at the end, they could tell me how they still loved me (or that they'd always love me) and hoped I'd be safe.  Or it could be someone who you'd been with all along and never suspected a thing....how awesome if Sten came up at the final DAO battle and said how much he wished things had been different!  Or Bann Teagan, or Ser Perth, etc.  (No, the dog would not be a cool alternative pining love interest.  Just...ew.) Image IPB

I guess that's about it.  Not much of a list or too much to ask for, is it?  LOL!  Hey, it IS all about ME, ya know.  Image IPB


YES EXACTLY!!
This is a fantastic post and I totally agree with you on EVERYTHING you said, I wish I was as good as expressing myself as you are. I really hope someone at Bioware reads this !!

PS. n2nw I love that song link, very funny! Image IPB

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Btw, I hope they add threesomes / foursomes.

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iTomes wrote...

didn't
gaider also write the first book (the stolen throne or whatever its
name is in english). i mean..... that was pretty much about human
male/elven female (maric and that female bard forgott the name xxD)


well maric himself was (let´s say) busy as a bee when it comes to elven women XD. in the first book "the stolen throne" it was the bard from orlais named kathriel and in the other "the calling" it was an elven mage - but i can´t remember her name right now - i personaly find her quite annoying but well ... there is also the rumor going around that she might be the "real" mother of our beloved alistair ;) (sorry for the spoil for anyone who didn´t read the books).


@topic:
if i haven´t overlooked there is no official comment from the bioware stuff until now? i really want that the talks and possible romances will return in DA 2 like the were in DAO ... in that point DA:Awakening was from my point of view bull**** - and left in me with some sort of frustration - cause that was one of the points that made DAO enjoyable for me.

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Tirigon wrote...

Btw, I hope they add threesomes / foursomes.


We need a new replacement for the Pearl. Give us more ****s.:ph34r:

(Bah! Censorship)

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