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Alright, I'm going to allow voice acting without any more complaints from me.. only if the male Hawke is played by David Tennant!

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I hate the fixed surname. I HATE it. Just that it's a fixed surname bothers me.

That it's required because they voice all the NPC dialogue means not that we have to have it, but instead that would shouldn't have fully-voiced NPC dialogue.

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I'm totaly agree with the fisrt post. I always thought that the ME dialogue's system have big flaws, results of the non-flexibility of the character full voiced.

Beyond that, I think it's very difficult to have a RP part with a character with a voice: At this point, it's not my character, but a character that i'm forced to play... Here begins the end of RP in my opinion (That 's why I not like very much the Witcher, and why I define ME as an Interactive movie)

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Lost-brain wrote...

(That 's why I not like very much the Witcher, and why I define ME as an Interactive movie)


But that's not the same. We are given a set protagonist, with a set face and a set background and set everything, we just choose in the game what he can do. It's completely different. Like Alpha Protocol or Deus Ex.

When we are allowed to make the face, the class, we should be able to make the voice, too. 

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Dave of Canada wrote...

Alright, I'm going to allow voice acting without any more complaints from me.. only if the male Hawke is played by David Tennant!

no

Rowan Atkinson please

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I think Rowan Atkinson might be a little old for the role now...

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joriandrake wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

Alright, I'm going to allow voice acting without any more complaints from me.. only if the male Hawke is played by David Tennant!

no

Rowan Atkinson please


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how about James Earl Jones? :D

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lmao I hope they get Vin Diesel to do it, lol, would be a damn riot...........hey get over here ya dang poduck dragon, hahaha.

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Sylvius the Mad wrote...

I hate the fixed surname. I HATE it. Just that it's a fixed surname bothers me.

While I'm sure the one-dimensional Mary Sue you have floating around in your mind is really awesome, and I'm sure the fanfic that you're perpetually "getting around" to writing about him/her is going to rock, there is nothing holding you back from role playing around "Hawke."

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Maverick827 wrote...

While I'm sure the one-dimensional Mary Sue you have floating around in your mind is really awesome, and I'm sure the fanfic that you're perpetually "getting around" to writing about him/her is going to rock, there is nothing holding you back from role playing around "Hawke."


Imagining Sylvius writing fan fiction is weird.

Also, Maverick, go fall into a dung heap you jerk.

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A silent protagonist feels weird when everyone around you is speaking. It was especially jarring because I played Dragon Age immediately after a playthrough of Mass Effect. You might as well be invisible because your character doesn't react to anything.

No PC voice was acceptable in the BG era, as there was very little spoken dialog, but a modern cinematic RPG needs voice acting. A mute just reminds you that your character is a bunch of polygons with no real personality. Cutscenes will be improved greatly when your guy actually talks.

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I much prefer playing a voiced character, especially when everyone around you will bust several lectures while your half of the conversation looks like this:

"Tell me about rat pies."

"Tell me about crusts."

"Where do you get your rats?"

"Give me a free rat pie or I'll kill you."

"I'm going to kill you anyway."

"But officer, there was a rat in my pie."



I just find it weird contributing the least to a conversation, being the character who knows the least about the world and is always asking things like "what's a gray warden?", and then having all my companions look at me and say, "you're in charge, what do we do?"

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Spear-Thrower wrote...

A silent protagonist feels weird when everyone around you is speaking. It was especially jarring because I played Dragon Age immediately after a playthrough of Mass Effect. You might as well be invisible because your character doesn't react to anything.

No PC voice was acceptable in the BG era, as there was very little spoken dialog, but a modern cinematic RPG needs voice acting. A mute just reminds you that your character is a bunch of polygons with no real personality. Cutscenes will be improved greatly when your guy actually talks.


Then what about Kotor? I mean, what if the protagonist reacted more expression/animation wise. They got more focus in cutscenes, that was Origins' problem - they ignored the protagonist. Revan was great, and was treated like their own character.

FRZN wrote...

I much prefer playing a voiced character, especially when everyone around you will bust several lectures while your half of the conversation looks like this:
"Tell me about rat pies."
"Tell me about crusts."
"Where do you get your rats?"
"Give me a free rat pie or I'll kill you."
"I'm going to kill you anyway."
"But officer, there was a rat in my pie."

I just find it weird contributing the least to a conversation, being the character who knows the least about the world and is always asking things like "what's a gray warden?", and then having all my companions look at me and say, "you're in charge, what do we do?"


And is that any better than having your protagonist go on for hours explaining to the audience things they already know?

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Sylvius the Mad wrote...

I hate the fixed surname. I HATE it. Just that it's a fixed surname bothers me.


Yeah but, you had a fixed surname in DA:O too.

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I completely agree with the 'thread opening comment'. Also I think it's really annoying to have a voice over. When you pick a dialogue option you basicly recite it in your head, when the guy which you 'are' then repeats that line you just thought, it annoys me. If you give him a voice it doesn't feel like me, it feel like someone else that I can control. By the way this is my personal opinion, apparently alot of people don't have this.

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Dave of Canada wrote...

joriandrake wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

Alright, I'm going to allow voice acting without any more complaints from me.. only if the male Hawke is played by David Tennant!

no

Rowan Atkinson please


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let us make a deal, let the main char have Tennant's voice, but then he will have a speaking Adder companion/shapeshifter with Atkinson's voice

Behindyounow wrote...

Sylvius the Mad wrote...

I
hate the fixed surname. I HATE it. Just that it's a fixed surname
bothers me.


Yeah but, you had a fixed surname in DA:O
too.


You also had about a dozen various origins which
also changed your surname based on race and gender, now you won't have
origins neither

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Behindyounow wrote...

Sylvius the Mad wrote...

I hate the fixed surname. I HATE it. Just that it's a fixed surname bothers me.


Yeah but, you had a fixed surname in DA:O too.


You did? If I called my guy Alim (which is really what he's called), then that was the only name I saw the whole game. I've never seen any sort of surname in Dragon age: Origins. Or am I being a complete retard right now?

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DA:O no voice acting, because too many combinations would be required.

DA2 : I bet it will have voice acting since the character will be given to us - human male/female.

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Solidbebe wrote...

Behindyounow wrote...

Sylvius the Mad wrote...

I hate the fixed surname. I HATE it. Just that it's a fixed surname bothers me.


Yeah but, you had a fixed surname in DA:O too.


You did? If I called my guy Alim (which is really what he's called), then that was the only name I saw the whole game. I've never seen any sort of surname in Dragon age: Origins. Or am I being a complete retard right now?

You had it but it was never mentioned by anyone.
For me it felt like it never exisited or mattered.

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Solidbebe wrote...

Behindyounow wrote...

Sylvius the Mad wrote...

I hate the fixed surname. I HATE it. Just that it's a fixed surname bothers me.


Yeah but, you had a fixed surname in DA:O too.


You did? If I called my guy Alim (which is really what he's called), then that was the only name I saw the whole game. I've never seen any sort of surname in Dragon age: Origins. Or am I being a complete retard right now?



surname is familyname in english

yes you had, but you also had lots of origins to pick from which gave you various surnames, now origins are also cut from game and every single character from all the players will have the same name

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Solidbebe wrote...

Behindyounow wrote...

Sylvius the Mad wrote...

I hate the fixed surname. I HATE it. Just that it's a fixed surname bothers me.


Yeah but, you had a fixed surname in DA:O too.


You did? If I called my guy Alim (which is really what he's called), then that was the only name I saw the whole game. I've never seen any sort of surname in Dragon age: Origins. Or am I being a complete retard right now?


Yep. It says it next to where you enter your first name. Human nobles were called Couslands and Dwarven nobles were called Aeducans. I cant remember what the others where called though.

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Solidbebe wrote...

Behindyounow wrote...

Sylvius the Mad wrote...

I hate the fixed surname. I HATE it. Just that it's a fixed surname bothers me.


Yeah but, you had a fixed surname in DA:O too.


You did? If I called my guy Alim (which is really what he's called), then that was the only name I saw the whole game. I've never seen any sort of surname in Dragon age: Origins. Or am I being a complete retard right now?


All origins had a specific surname.

joriandrake wrote...

You also had about a dozen various origins which 
also changed your surname based on race and gender, now you won't have 
origins neither


Half a dozen, and they didn't change depending on gender.

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Behindyounow wrote...

Solidbebe wrote...

Behindyounow wrote...

Sylvius the Mad wrote...

I hate the fixed surname. I HATE it. Just that it's a fixed surname bothers me.


Yeah but, you had a fixed surname in DA:O too.


You did? If I called my guy Alim (which is really what he's called), then that was the only name I saw the whole game. I've never seen any sort of surname in Dragon age: Origins. Or am I being a complete retard right now?


Yep. It says it next to where you enter your first name. Human nobles were called Couslands and Dwarven nobles were called Aeducans. I cant remember what the others where called though.

Because those were the only last names that were used now that i think of it.
Mainly because other story relevant characters had the same last name.

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Herr Uhl wrote...

Solidbebe wrote...

Behindyounow wrote...

Sylvius the Mad wrote...

I hate the fixed surname. I HATE it. Just that it's a fixed surname bothers me.


Yeah but, you had a fixed surname in DA:O too.


You did? If I called my guy Alim (which is really what he's called), then that was the only name I saw the whole game. I've never seen any sort of surname in Dragon age: Origins. Or am I being a complete retard right now?


All origins had a specific surname.

joriandrake wrote...

You also had about a dozen various origins which 
also changed your surname based on race and gender, now you won't have 
origins neither


Half a dozen, and they didn't change depending on gender.


true, checking it they only changed on race


Surnames
  • Elven mage: Surana
  • Human mage: Amell

although I don't know about how it worked for the awakening grey warden origin