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[wikkedjoker]

After reading the 5 facts about DA2 that Game Informer posted. . . .I’m seeing A LOT of plot holes, that I have a feeling will be glanced over.  

This biggest of which, is the fact that Hawke and our Warden were in Lothering at the same time.

This bothers me for a lot of reasons;

*During the entire time I’m in Lothering holding open recruitment, I recruit, a Nun, and Sten. Granted they are both useful, but I recruited side characters when the Hero of the next game was drinking in the same bar as I was. . . . WHAT!!!

I mean I’m doing all these quest and helping all these people in Lothering and this Hawke can’t be bothered to help out. . . I mean ****, what a dick.

I mean how did this conversation go.

Gray Worden: Okay I’ve got a Nun, a Prince, a Witch, a Dog and a guy who murdered the  farmers that saved his life, simply because he couldn’t find his sword after he woke up.

Anyone else, how about you the guy in the armor with the spear, what did your application say your name was again?

Oh, yes Hawke.

Hawke: Yeah never mind about joining you, I’m just going to chill hear, and do absolutely nothing. It doesn’t really matter because I’ll be the fully voice acted Hero of the next game, you know because I‘m Ninja like that.

Yeah sure I wont fight an Arch Demon, or anything God like, but I’m sure that I’ll have some kind of epic quest, after all my story spans 10 years.  Maybe I’ll follow up on the bastard child that you and this witch will have. I know it wont mean anything with ME following up on it, after all why should I give a flying ****? But it will be closer for the player’s, I mean really they don’t need YOU for emotional closer, I mean Who would want to see the plots and plot holes resolved by the guy who started the adventure. No one wants to see that, no one want to see the journey of a character they invested so much in come full circle. I mean that would almost make since.

So you go on your quest and I’ll stay her and protect Lothering, and by protect I mean **** out and head to the Free Marshes, a place ware I’ll embark on a not so noble quest to gain power. . . .

Gray Warden. . . . . . .


I’ll give Dragon Age 2 a chance, I really hope I’m wrong about this game. In Dragon age there was a lot of plot holes and this just adds to them, but I digress.

I was hoping for closure with my Warden, a Warden that I played ALL the DLC with the expansion’s, invested A LOT of time with carving out the perfect play through to carry over to Dragon Age 2. I guess however with all the branching choices, the writing team, wrote them selves into a corner.

And there is still a bunch of time between now and the time DA2 comes out, so I’m hoping DLC or further expansions finish up the Wardens plot, and gives me a reason to care about Hawke, and his story, because the last thing I wanna do is fire up an game and get closure to my Wardens story, though the eyes of Hawke.

So until further DLC or expansions that finish out my Wardens story, and more info on DA2. . . I’ve only got one thing to say about Dragon Age 2.

In the words of The Spoony One. . .

BETRAYAL!!!!   

[Nerdage]

That it'll be delayed.

[AlexXIV]

I fear that I buy it, play it, and wish I could have my money back ...

[HoonDing]

wikkedjoker wrote...

This biggest of which, is the fact that Hawke and our Warden were in Lothering at the same time.

That's actually very nice. It feeds the idea that no matter how much one might think their Warden is special and all powerful, there is always someone who's better and stronger.

[BigEd420]

Wait.... Is hawke, that little kid I gave a silver to?

[Nerdage]

Since you can choose your gender in DA2 it can't be anyone we met.

[Hayllee]

That it won't "feel" like dragon age, and more of a spin-off. I guess I can live with a VO, but my fear is it's going to be completely different. But that's probably not going to happen, since Bioware would have to intentionally screw that up.

[mosaiclobster]

virumor wrote...

wikkedjoker wrote...

This biggest of which, is the fact that Hawke and our Warden were in Lothering at the same time.

That's actually very nice. It feeds the idea that no matter how much one might think their Warden is special and all powerful, there is always someone who's better and stronger.

Plus, joker's assuming that Hawke is already an established warrior by Lothering. Which makes no sense, because if they WERE, they wouldn't need 10 years of gameplay to become a Champion. They were probably a teenage street urchin, at best, during Lothering.

[Leafs43]

mosaiclobster wrote...

virumor wrote...

wikkedjoker wrote...

This biggest of which, is the fact that Hawke and our Warden were in Lothering at the same time.

That's actually very nice. It feeds the idea that no matter how much one might think their Warden is special and all powerful, there is always someone who's better and stronger.

Plus, joker's assuming that Hawke is already an established warrior by Lothering. Which makes no sense, because if they WERE, they wouldn't need 10 years of gameplay to become a Champion. They were probably a teenage street urchin, at best, during Lothering.

Not to mention at the time the Warden was in Lothering, the Warden was a puss ball compared to end game.

[Pugnate]

Hayllee wrote...

That it won't "feel" like dragon age, and more of a spin-off. I guess I can live with a VO, but my fear is it's going to be completely different. But that's probably not going to happen, since Bioware would have to intentionally screw that up.

The two little screenies floating around here give me heart though. It doesn't look that different.

I also have a feeling that focusing on a single character like Hawke, allows them to be better able to work a movie license.

[Hayllee]

Pugnate wrote...

Hayllee wrote...

That it won't "feel" like dragon age, and more of a spin-off. I guess I can live with a VO, but my fear is it's going to be completely different. But that's probably not going to happen, since Bioware would have to intentionally screw that up.

The two little screenies floating around here give me heart though. It doesn't look that different.

I also have a feeling that focusing on a single character like Hawke, allows them to be better able to work a movie license.

That thought disgusts me, actually. A movie, I mean.

[Chuvvy]

BigEd420 wrote...

Wait.... Is hawke, that little kid I gave a silver to?

That's my hypothesis.

[Leon Evelake]

wikkedjoker wrote...

After reading the 5 facts about DA2 that Game Informer posted. . . .I’m seeing A LOT of plot holes, that I have a feeling will be glanced over.  

This biggest of which, is the fact that Hawke and our Warden were in Lothering at the same time.


 

Did you consider its the next blight the game takes place after.
That makes developer  sense because if its later after a massive event all the history pertaining to origins can be ambiguous comments about how the records for that time were lost or give multiple possibility, you know the fable 2 BBS..

[Fallensk8erlife]

That it gets delayed. March 2011 can't come soon enough.

[Sabariel]

That Hawke's voice will annoy the ever-loving crap out of me and/or it'll sound like s/he's having a serious BM during battle. One of the many reasons I couldn't bring myself to finish Final Fantasy XIII was Vanille and her sex noises during battle

[SirOccam]

wikkedjoker wrote...

After reading the 5 facts about DA2 that Game Informer posted. . . .I’m seeing A LOT of plot holes, that I have a feeling will be glanced over.  

This biggest of which, is the fact that Hawke and our Warden were in Lothering at the same time.

This bothers me for a lot of reasons;

*During the entire time I’m in Lothering holding open recruitment, I recruit, a Nun, and Sten. Granted they are both useful, but I recruited side characters when the Hero of the next game was drinking in the same bar as I was. . . . WHAT!!!

I mean I’m doing all these quest and helping all these people in Lothering and this Hawke can’t be bothered to help out. . . I mean ****, what a dick.

Maybe he was busy that afternoon? Maybe he was sleeping off a hangover? Maybe he had no reason to immediately jump at the chance to join a random group of strangers who strolled into town? We weren't actually in Lothering that long, all things considered. Just a quick stopover to get some information from a tavern and chat with a few people, and kill a few bandits.

And it really wasn't "open recruitment." In fact depending on your dialogue choices, you can hide the fact that you were a Warden pretty well up until the showdown in the tavern where you meet Leliana. And even then, she has to insist on joining you. In fact, now that I think about it, it's a little weird how much effort you go to to get a psychotic, murderous half-giant released so he can join you, but when Lel pretty much demands you let her join you, you're still really reluctant.

Finally, we still don't know how old he was...maybe he was too young to run off with a bunch of dangerous-looking strangers.

I really like the fact that the stories cross over at at least that one point. Continuity and references are good fun.

[MysterD]

My worst fear is the strategic elements and the overhead viewpoint we know and love from games like BG series and DAO will go out the window...

[panathatub]

I think they will try to oversimplyfy DA like ME with limited control over your crew, and limited gear (your crew will probably finish the game with the very same garments and cuirasses like ME).

I am also afraid that the scale of the abilities you can improve once you level up will be limited like ME. I also HATE Samurai Jacks' art style. I hated Fable for the very same reason. Really mature story with cuty graphics. They should have chosen the gritty realistic art style of Witcher 2.

Bioware had 2 diversified RPG products and by changing radically (or "Massefectising") DA is taking a gamble.

[FlyinElk212]

That it will suck.

[Podskalda]

Everything I have read so far

[MonkeyChief117]

Every detail i have read scares me. I love Mass Effect, but that doesn't mean i want every BW game to be just like it!



You can't choose a race or origin story? That was a brilliant concept and allowed MASSIVE replayability of the original game.



Fully voice acted? I don't really care - i can read so having written dialogue (and a huge number of options) was fine for me.



For DA2, all i wanted was some shinier graphics, less bugs and a more complex and interesting main plot. What i didn't want them to do was remove most of the features that makes the game "Dragon Age."



/rant over

[Ravenfeeder]

My worst fear?

Currently, that they'll use a radial menu on the PC version.

There's much talk of a dialogue 'wheel', which I really hope is not an actual wheel menu on the PC version.

[ZaroktheImmortal]

My only fears are what I already know. I'm not going to making any guesses but I don't like losing origin and races. I'm going to miss be able to play as an elf. I'm sure it'll still be fun, but there's so much being changed and taken out from the original. I hope in Dragon Age 3 I can be an elf again and maybe have multiple starting points.

[brivdl1]

My worst fear?

Hum !



Oghren ... the return



Nooooooooo !!!!!!!!