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So this game is getting ME2'd?


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That's certainly the impression I'm getting.

I can imagine how it all began...

"You know, as an action game Dragon Age wasn't that fun, so we turned off the RPG elements so we could focus on making a great action game first."

Can we expect no inventory or loot? Lockpicking minigame that any class can do because who wants to drag a rogue around just to open locks anyway? 

Maybe we'll get a mining minigame, only without the benefit of future technology. So we toil for hours in a dark hole with a pickaxe for a minigame. That'll be fun.

Oh, and who wants to bet "Hawke" isn't gay, so they can avoid having gay romances?

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Onyx Jaguar

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So your saying it will be way better than the original and not a buggy and broken mess? Yes please

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Eh, I don't know or care about the gay romances thing but it does seem they are ME 2ing the series. Making it more centralized around the PC and less around the game world and RPG mechanics.



I really didn't mind the changes they made for ME 2, but I didn't want it to become the Bioware norm. I'd rather be able to create my own characer, have a nice open world, and have a simple (but still existent) inventory system. Although, I may be asking too much.

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Onyx Jaguar wrote...

So your saying it will be way better than the original and not a buggy and broken mess? Yes please


This man speaks the thruth...
(yes, I'm not cool enough to write "QFT!")

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Lock picking had a mini game in ME, it had a different one. ME was an action game without really much choice in the RPG elements. I do not get the ridiculous and false assertion that ME was this hardcore amazing RPG they turned into an action game. ME was a broken RPG/Shooter hybrid they turned into a less borken RPG/shooter hybrid. I enjoyed ME for the plot and the characters was the RPG elements were horrible and the game was way too easy. ME2 improved on these to some extent, and missed in others. But man it gets tiresome hearing about ME1 as if it was God's gift to hardcore RPG fans everywhere. IT WAS A FREAKING SHOOTER GAME. Thank you.



Dragon Age: Origins is not a shooter game and I really doubt DA2 will be. Besides who the heck plays medieval shooter games? You are still going to be a specialized class, a warrior/rogue/mage you are not going to playing a witcher type action game because you still need to coordinate the classes in the party.



I am a bit concerned what they mean by "dynamic" combat. How was DA:O combat not dynamic? What could that mean? Just a marketing gimmick? I guess we will find out.

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Onyx Jaguar wrote...

So your saying it will be way better than the original and not a buggy and broken mess? Yes please


You know most of the time it´s the users fault. Never had any problems with DAO.

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How many people think that major companies are in the habit of saying "Our game did really well and we loved the game we produced, so lets jetison everything that people enjoyed about it just for thrills!" Seriously, Bioware might use some things that they learned with the ME games, but they are unlikely to make it unrecognizable from its original.

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Onyx Jaguar wrote...

So your saying it will be way better than the original and not a buggy and broken mess? Yes please


Yeah unbalanced skills and gear that turns every fight into one you can just stand there and shoot everybody with no strategy even at the hardest difficulties seems to be what hardcore RPGs are all about.

ME was not a great game for combat.  It was a fun, if unbalanced, little shooter with great characters and plot but hardly some amazing hardcore RPG.  Oh and the vehicle parts were entirely actiony, the skills and gear of your party did not matter at all.

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Errol Dnamyx wrote...

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

So your saying it will be way better than the original and not a buggy and broken mess? Yes please


You know most of the time it´s the users fault. Never had any problems with DAO.


There are some pretty major bugs in DA:O. 

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Errol Dnamyx wrote...

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

So your saying it will be way better than the original and not a buggy and broken mess? Yes please


You know most of the time it´s the users fault. Never had any problems with DAO.


I presumed and I hope he was talking about ME and not DAO. Image IPB

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Valmy wrote...

Errol Dnamyx wrote...

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

So your saying it will be way better than the original and not a buggy and broken mess? Yes please


You know most of the time it´s the users fault. Never had any problems with DAO.


I presumed and I hope he was talking about ME and not DAO. Image IPB


I was, but there still are a few issues in DA:O for some users.  I didn't have many problems myself either.

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Onyx Jaguar wrote...

So your saying it will be way better than the original and not a buggy and broken mess? Yes please


in one hundred hours of playing, i have seen one bug, the one in the orphanage in the alienage.

so as far as bugs go, dragon age was free of them.

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This is a lot of overreacting in a short time period

Modifié par Wonderllama4, 08 juillet 2010 - 08:51 .


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www.mcvuk.com/news/39913/Dragon-Age-bigger-than-Mass-Effect

Considering this, it would make more sense for ME3 to be DA:O'd, at least from a commercial standpoint B)

Modifié par Solo80, 08 juillet 2010 - 08:51 .


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Everybody is just excited but spewing it in different directions. Some are letting anger out..some are being happy about it.

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Brian.H wrote...

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

So your saying it will be way better than the original and not a buggy and broken mess? Yes please


in one hundred hours of playing, i have seen one bug, the one in the orphanage in the alienage.

so as far as bugs go, dragon age was free of them.


ME 1 wasn't though.  On my last playthrough I fell through three elevators and the framerate.  Wow that thing couldn't stay stable if it had a gun to its head

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Solo80 wrote...

www.mcvuk.com/news/39913/Dragon-Age-bigger-than-Mass-Effect

Considering this, it would make more sense for ME3 to be DA:O'd, at least from a commercial standpoint B)


Ughh, this is bad news too.

I really hope they don't dragonize Mass Effect 3. They already ruined KOTOR for me.

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Dragon Age isn't nearly as successful over in EA/Bioware's home grounds as the ME series from what I understand

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Again, we don't know much about this game yet. How many of these topics do we need, exactly? :<

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YokoFactor wrote...

Again, we don't know much about this game yet. How many of these topics do we need, exactly? :<


A thousand

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YokoFactor wrote...

Again, we don't know much about this game yet. How many of these topics do we need, exactly? :<


What did you expect? Bioware made a major announcement. Everyone in the world that knows about it is going to either curse or hooray all at the same time.

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YokoFactor wrote...

Again, we don't know much about this game yet. How many of these topics do we need, exactly? :<



I must ask: why do people say we shouldn't speculate in a forum designed for speculation? What are you even doing here if you're not interested in the thoughts the community has on this?

I'm not saying you should leave, your reaction simply coloured me... curious.

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I think it comes down to dragon age taking 5 years to make and mass effect 2 taking 2 years to make. And now Dragon age 2 taking just under 2 years to make.

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Helena Tylena wrote...

YokoFactor wrote...

Again, we don't know much about this game yet. How many of these topics do we need, exactly? :<



I must ask: why do people say we shouldn't speculate in a forum designed for speculation? What are you even doing here if you're not interested in the thoughts the community has on this?

I'm not saying you should leave, your reaction simply coloured me... curious.


Good point.

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ThomasAndrew wrote...

I think it comes down to dragon age taking 5 years to make and mass effect 2 taking 2 years to make. And now Dragon age 2 taking just under 2 years to make.


Not necessarily since Dragon Age was built from the ground up and it was redesigned and re-imagined and left alone for periods.  I do not think that necessarily means that DA2 being done in less time means it will not be just as big.