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[Cytonox]

Why say bioware? I say EA. Because EA is the Controlling Company bioware has no choice but to get down on there knees and bow to them and pretty much say yes sir, very good sir, best idea sir.

[DLAN_Immortality]

To answer the original question (not that they care, of course), YES.

[Helena Tylena]

lack of hotkeys

wut?
You can use the number keys to activate abilities.

[Ecael]

Helena Tylena wrote...

lack of hotkeys

wut?
You can use the number keys to activate abilities.

I think he was more referring to hotkeys to get to (or get past) menus quickly.

[Mumoto]

Well yeah certainly, Mass Effect 1 was epic while Mass Effect 2 felt like it was missing a lot.. like the change in armor/weapons.


I just hope Dragon Age 2 doesn't dissapoint me, as far as what I've seen people talking about I would hate being forced to play as only a human, we need elves and dwarves. Also they should give it more starting areas like in DA:O (Noble, Commoner)

Either way I will probably buy it

[nYshak]

Awakening. There was no QA testing done for this at all. There are so many bugs its unplayable. Still waiting for a patch. A patch that will never come. They are working on DA2 already, making cool heros with stupid names like...."Hawke". Seriously, Biowares support of their games is lacking. I blame EA

[mopotter]

If I compare BioWare games to other developers, then I would say No they have not let me down. I always go back to their games.

If I just compare the BioWare Games then just a little bit of disappointment creeps in.

DA I absolutely hated the ending choices with Alistair and always will. The Old Republic made me very sad when I found out I would have to have someone else help me get through it at different points. I didn't mind the idea of a massive universe to wander around in with my trusty companion, but I don't like playing with other people. I have to talk to people all day at work, when I play a game I want to just be by myself.

But with only these two disappointments, It's still a better % rate than anything else I've bought,

[twincast]

David Gaider wrote...

Suron wrote...

but I'm sure you could care less because taking DA the route of Mass Effect 2 will surely bring you more money to gorge on then sticking true to those of us that....made you what you are.

I could care less, yes.

But that's because I care a lot. Perhaps that isn't what you meant?

*snicker*

Modifié par twincast, 09 juillet 2010 - 12:31 .

[Leinadi]

Bioware did let me down a lot after the BGs. They're not my fav games ever but they're solid games. But NWN1, KOTOR, JE, ME... I found those to be really subpar. I found ME2 better than ME1, mostly due to more solid companions, but still a bit meh.



Dragon Age was a great surprise to me though. I did hate the marketing campaign they fired up later on, but I always looked forward to stuff like the Origins and all that. But I was surprised to find it to be the best Bioware game to date, a really good roleplaying game.

[odiedragon]

Victor Wachter wrote...
I'll say this to those who are all concerned about things being changed to reach a more massive audience. We already reached a massive audience with DA:O. It would be silly to make DA2 into something that the DA:O audience couldn't recognize.

It's extremely silly!  That's why I'm so upset you're doing it.

"Recognize" goes beyond having the same background and lore... the actual *gameplay* matters too!

If I wanted a Shepard, I'd play ME.  Plain and simple.

[PSUHammer]

For someone who doesn't get to play games much anymore, and has to be choosy...The recent Bioware offerings have had me captivated. I enjoyed ME1 & 2, even though they played slightly different, as well as all the DA offerings, so far. I have played a lot worse games in my day. Some people will never be happy...that's life.

[odiedragon]

Cytonox wrote...

Why say bioware? I say EA. Because EA is the Controlling Company bioware has no choice but to get down on there knees and bow to them and pretty much say yes sir, very good sir, best idea sir.

This as well.

I don't know the chronology here, only that DA:O was in development for years and years.  Did the EA acquisition happen before or after DA:O was solidly in the works?  Because that's the only reasonable explination I can come up with here.  It started as a Bioware game, and they had too much invested in it already to change things.  Now that they're starting from Square One, EA is calling the shots.

I should be used to this kind of thing by now, so why does it hurt so damned much when it happens?!

[odiedragon]

Altima Darkspells wrote...

DAA let me down.  An expansion priced ten dollars higher than 'normal' for 15-20 hours of play in an extremely buggy environment.  Not to mention that it came with the 1.03 patch that somewhat fixed the memory leak that BW refuses to acknowledge, it introduced crashes and the broken steal skill.  Adding insult to injury, DAA itself had some severe bugs that should have never made it out the door.

What I think is kinda funny is how BioWare had set up DA2 to lead into what fans really want--a remake of BG2--and they didn't deliver.  Or maybe they will, but doesn't look like.

This this this.  A thousand times this.

Though now that I think about it, remembering Awakening should have warned me that DA 2.0 will probably not live up to expectations.  

[odiedragon]

brain_damage wrote...

The moment I saw that Dragon Age 2 has been confirmed, I knew that I'll open the forums and see 12452352 pages of whining and moaning and MORE ROMANCE PLZ. Stop ****ing - we know next to nothing about this game and it might turn out to be just fine.

I haven't seen very much whining about the romance element at all.  THAT is something we know little to nothing about.

People are upset because they're not continuing in the classic RPG vein.  I'm not sure why that's so hard to understand.

[Proposition_Joe]

Yes, expansion packs doesnt seem to be Biowares area of experise to put it mildly...

[odiedragon]

Vylan Antagonist wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

[Oh, I don't think it's as bad as that. People get emotionally attached; that's a good thing. Until they can see what the new game actually is, all most people are going to see is what it isn't. That makes it a net negative for them.

If it isn't particularly similar in construction to its predecessor, why call it a sequel at all? If Dark Alliance had been released as Baldur's Gate 3, I think fans would have been very justifiably upset at what it wasn't, but the largest part of that disappointment would have been the expectation gap explicitly created by naming it as a sequel instead of a mechanically different game in the same setting.

It's early, we know very little, I know. But some misconceptions have been cleared up extremely quickly (player race, player origin, player gender, etc). The nature of the combat gameplay, on the other hand, remains disturbingly nebulous.

Calling it 'Dragon Age: Rebellion" would have set up a very different set of expectations for what it is and isn't. If it turned out that the core gameplay for such a game is more Elder Scrolls-like (or God of War-like, or even Jade Empire-like), the only disappointment about what such a game isn't would center around the fact that it isn't DA2 yet. Hope would remain for a sequel more similar to what fans loved about the first.

But take the same game and call it DA2 and yes, naturally, there will be a  great deal more unhappiness about what it isn't. In fact, the disappointment may be keen enough to substantially reduce the fan's inclination to play the game, not because he or she wouldn't enjoy it on its own merits, but precisely because it was named in such a way as to highlight exactly what it is not.

This is an excellent point as well.

If they had kept with the Dragon Age - Colon (description) naming convention, I don't think I'd feel so let down right now.  It would be a different game in the same universe.

But to call it a sequel is what galls me.

[nYshak]

Proposition_Joe wrote...

Yes, expansion packs doesnt seem to be Biowares area of experise to put it mildly...

Awakening has a good story and its price is ok as well compared to other games. I mean Crysis cost be 50 bucks and I was finished after 6 hours. Its just that DAO is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better in the bang for buck category than pretty much any game from any developer out there.

Awakening is bad because of the ****load of bugs it comes with. Thats QAs failure but not a failure specific to expansions.

[sanadawarrior]

Bioware rpgs have only let me down twice since Baldur's Gate II, Dragon Age and the original Neverwinter Nights. Mass Effect 2, Mass Effect, Baldur's Gate II, Jade Empire and Knights of the Old Republic make up half of my top 10 games of all time, with only Kotor not making it to the top 5.

[Carmen_Willow]

I know we seem to be whining, but we are nervous. I can't speak for others, but I really loved DA:O, quirky flaws and all (thank goodness I never got the corrupted game save issue). Just want more of the same that totally fascinated me the first time and made me preorder awakenings. Haven't done that so far with DA:2 and probably won't until we ge a taste of what it's really going to be like.



As I have said in other threads, the biggest drawback for me with the voiced character (Shepard comes to mind) is that she speaks with her voice, her vocabulary, her delivery and style. Shepard could never be me, as I would never convey information in the style she uses. At least with DA:O, there were word choices that I would use. This has me concerned.



I enjoyed Awakenings for what it was, found some flaw with it, but liked it well enough to replay it. I've tried a couple times to get into Mass Effect without much success. It just doesn't suck me in the way DA:O did -- probably because I didn't know my own character very well at the beginning and so the game always seems as though I'm playing for "someone else" not myself. But, so far in Dragon Age, Bioware hasn't let me down. I'm just afraid that they will....

[odiedragon]

David Gaider wrote...

kaispan wrote...

At least wait til we have some real information.

That would be appreciated, but the lack of real information on a topic has never stopped a good rant on the internet before. Wild assumptions exist to be disproven, not supported.

Thanks for the kind words, kaispan.

Why do I keep seeing this?  We HAVE real information!  Unless you're saying what was released about this Hawke guy is all lies?

Modifié par odiedragon, 09 juillet 2010 - 02:08 .

[Master Shiori]

Carmen_Willow wrote...

I know we seem to be whining, but we are nervous. I can't speak for others, but I really loved DA:O, quirky flaws and all (thank goodness I never got the corrupted game save issue). Just want more of the same that totally fascinated me the first time and made me preorder awakenings. Haven't done that so far with DA:2 and probably won't until we ge a taste of what it's really going to be like.

This.

Right now we don't really know where we stand with DA2 in relations to DA:O.

People complain about things when they don't really know what to truly expect. I know we'll be playing as a new character in DA2, but do I really care about him? Not a bit. Not while I have a dozen Wardens from Origins that I love but will never get to use again. Compared to them Hawke, as of right now, is an unknown. A nobody that I could care about as much as I care about some nameless npc refugee in the tavern in Lothering. Once the game is out and I've actually had a chance to play it, I might change my mind and come to love Hawke as much as I loved my DA:O Warden, but right now the prospect of playing as Hawke doesn't excite me in the slightest.

Same thing for the rest of the game. I love the fact it let's us see the world outside of Ferelden, but nothing is definitely known about the story, dialogue, companions, romances, combat, enemies, etc.
Until we get more information about all these things I can't really be excited since I have no idea what's in store and how it'll measure up to DA:O.

Modifié par Master Shiori, 09 juillet 2010 - 02:15 .

[UberDuber]

To be honest. If this hawke guy is voiced.They have already ruined Dragon age 2 for me.I dont want a Mass effect dialog and a shepard voice agh.



BIOWARE = FAIL.

[sanadawarrior]

odiedragon wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

kaispan wrote...

At least wait til we have some real information.

That would be appreciated, but the lack of real information on a topic has never stopped a good rant on the internet before. Wild assumptions exist to be disproven, not supported.

Thanks for the kind words, kaispan.

Why do I keep seeing this?  We HAVE real information!  Unless you're saying what was released about this Hawke guy is all lies?

If that was the only thing people where jumping to conclusions about you might have a point...

[Ygolnac]

So far my only letdown, and a Big One, was Awakening. In fact i bought it blindly and dearly regretted that. Now i wait for forums feedback before buying anything that comes with dragon age title. I waited for Chronicles of the dark spawn, i'm still waiting for leliana song but the feedback seems to be good, and for sure i will not buy DA2 in the release date.
On the other hand i still blindly buy Mass Effect stuff: you may like it or not, but they never released bug nests and everything is coherent with the story. Also ME staff seems to listen to the community a lot a more and have kept all the promises they have made.
DA staff: they go on releasing stuff and announce the sequel but still have to release a patch that fixes day 0 bugs and makes awakening playable...

Modifié par Ygolnac, 09 juillet 2010 - 02:19 .

[KEMKA]

All we know about hawke is that they are a human survivor/refugee of the blight right? I may have missed some posts but from what I've read so far thats all we know.