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#201
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Azint wrote...

I am pleased to see that Bioware can always rely on their loyal fans to praise and encourage them for their projects, while taking the time to understand the toils, and place value over things they craft.



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Jestina wrote...

Ecael wrote...

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Seems like people are just joining up to inflate dem numbers

Or possibly making multiple accounts.
Which is funny, because all the moderators and BioWare employees can easily see if a single person is making multiple accounts.


If it's like the Sims 3 community, they don't do anything except throw out a random ban to someone every now and then.
:lol:

They don't typically announce who gets temp-banned or perma-banned, however. So you'll see people appear and disappear for a day (assuming they weren't busy that day) or people will just disappear entirely.

There are too many people posting on the forums for a regular poster to keep track of who gets banned or not.

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 The writers haven't let me down, nor have the artists. The big guys have. DLC idea has totally let me down.

I still stand by BioWare for their amazing artistic qualities.

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David Gaider wrote...

The Tizminator wrote...
Bioware announcing that DA2 will be a completely new story, making the hugely enjoyable story & characters from the first one completely meaningless.

Thanks Bioware.

You're welcome!

Always a pleasure to know that you can make everyone happy, even when providing very little information for them to go on. Image IPB


glad to see you can be so sarcastic and smug.

so tell us....king gaider....I wonder how you feel about your creation being dumbed down like ME2 was...afterall the console pwnface headshot crowd is MUCH larger then those of us....who...not only GOT YOU WHERE YOU ****ING ARE...but actually like story, plot, coherence, and role-playing...

so it's "Shepa..." sorry I mean "Hawke" now?  a single protagonist that can only be human but male/female.....you're going to change the combat mechanics in such a way that brings a sense of deja-vu to me when thinking back in mass effect 2 being talked about.

but I'm sure you could care less because taking DA the route of Mass Effect 2 will surely bring you more money to gorge on then sticking true to those of us that....made you what you are.

Good to see what was once my favorite developer...which I voiced VERY openly anytime I had the ****ing chance...turn into ****.

have fun with your snarky comments on my post.

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Suron wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

The Tizminator wrote...
Bioware announcing that DA2 will be a completely new story, making the hugely enjoyable story & characters from the first one completely meaningless.

Thanks Bioware.

You're welcome!

Always a pleasure to know that you can make everyone happy, even when providing very little information for them to go on. Image IPB


glad to see you can be so sarcastic and smug.

so tell us....king gaider....I wonder how you feel about your creation being dumbed down like ME2 was...afterall the console pwnface headshot crowd is MUCH larger then those of us....who...not only GOT YOU WHERE YOU ****ING ARE...but actually like story, plot, coherence, and role-playing...

so it's "Shepa..." sorry I mean "Hawke" now?  a single protagonist that can only be human but male/female.....you're going to change the combat mechanics in such a way that brings a sense of deja-vu to me when thinking back in mass effect 2 being talked about.

but I'm sure you could care less because taking DA the route of Mass Effect 2 will surely bring you more money to gorge on then sticking true to those of us that....made you what you are.

Good to see what was once my favorite developer...which I voiced VERY openly anytime I had the ****ing chance...turn into ****.

have fun with your snarky comments on my post.

You say that as if this were the only time you were snarky, sarcastic or smug.

People on the forums shouldn't be surprised when they dismiss the comments of the developers and then get dismissal right back.

#206
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Suron wrote...

have fun with your snarky comments on my post.

I would like to give it a go.

so tell us....king gaider....I wonder how you feel about your creation being dumbed down like ME2 was...afterall the console pwnface headshot crowd is MUCH larger then those of us....who...not only GOT YOU WHERE YOU ****ING ARE...but actually like story, plot, coherence, and role-playing...


Yes, because every single console player is an uneducated, foul mouthed, inattentive, mass of juveniles who have no idea how to comprehend a story or coerce a game that takes more than bullets to run.

but I'm sure you could care less because taking DA the route of Mass Effect 2 will surely bring you more money to gorge on then sticking true to those of us that....made you what you are.

Of course fans like you are what raised Bioware to their current status.

Good to see what was once my favorite developer...which I voiced VERY openly anytime I had the ****ing chance...turn into ****.

And with such vocabulary, I too may turn away a devoted fan.

Modifié par Azint, 09 juillet 2010 - 02:39 .


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Suron is back! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

#208
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Yes, ME2s "streamlining" was terrible, now it happening to DA, I only have Bethesda I can actually trust and all they seem to do now is publish games, im ****ed.

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Azint wrote...

Yes, because every single console player is an uneducated, foul mouthed, inattentive, mass of juveniles who have no idea how to comprehend a story or coerce a game that takes more than bullets to run.


Dude you're not supposed to agree with him.

#210
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Wooooohooo 9 freaking pages....I'm sure this has been said a million freaking times but.....BioWare DIDN'T make KotOR II. And this thread should be locked burned, shot, stabbed and deleted for the very fact that the opening post is completely clueless.

Modifié par Darth_Trethon, 09 juillet 2010 - 02:55 .


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/shrugs



ME2 was a major major let down for me but unless Bioware comes out saying they suddenly going to focus on combat more then story in the DA franchise, im not all that worried

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andyr1986 wrote...

Azint wrote...

Yes, because every single console player is an uneducated, foul mouthed, inattentive, mass of juveniles who have no idea how to comprehend a story or coerce a game that takes more than bullets to run.


Dude you're not supposed to agree with him.

I consider the ability to detect sarcasm over the internet to be a merit.

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Some employees are having a good laugh right now.

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Lucy Glitter

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All I want is just no protagonist VO. Then I will be so excited for this... more than I already am.



*is praying to every god imaginable because she thinks DA wouldn't be the same etc etc*

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Lucy_Glitter wrote...

All I want is just no protagonist VO. Then I will be so excited for this... more than I already am.

*is praying to every god imaginable because she thinks DA wouldn't be the same etc etc*


What do you honestly think are the chances of that?

The fact that they announced we can only play as human(which is absolutely fantastic btw) and that our character has a pre-defined last name.......at this point I'd say the chances of Hawke having a voice and speaking ME style are through the roof. I doesn't bother me though I am neutral on the issue.

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Technically the characters in DA all had predefined last names...

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Lucy_Glitter wrote...

All I want is just no protagonist VO. Then I will be so excited for this... more than I already am.

*is praying to every god imaginable because she thinks DA wouldn't be the same etc etc*

I don't want a VO either. I do think it will happen though and I'm sad about it.

I enjoyed DA:O so very much with all the many answers the PC was able to give. I am aware that many of those answers were leading to the same response from the one the PC was talking to, but it still gave me the impression of having multiple choices available, and that was great. This will be cut down with the VO. 

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Onyx Jaguar wrote...

Technically the characters in DA all had predefined last names...


Technically yes.....but 6 alltogether. Nobody really ever expected that to be voiced. This time around there's only ONE last name.

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Onyx Jaguar wrote...

Technically the characters in DA all had predefined last names...

It would have really helped the immersion if they ever did refer to you by at least that name.

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Darth_Trethon wrote...

What do you honestly think are the chances of that?

The fact that they announced we can only play as human(which is absolutely fantastic btw) and that our character has a pre-defined last name.......at this point I'd say the chances of Hawke having a voice and speaking ME style are through the roof. I doesn't bother me though I am neutral on the issue.


I'm not listening! Na-na-na-na-naaa!

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Ecael wrote...
People on the forums shouldn't be surprised when they dismiss the comments of the developers and then get dismissal right back.


I reported a personal attack on the EA forum and didn't get a reply back from EA until three or four months after the incident, saying they just started investigating it.

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here is my response of what I want in the DLC and the ME3



So I have come up with a few ideas for bioware. Feel free to

comment and improve the idea. I believe that all the ideas we give to bioware

will pay off in a better mass effect 3.







Exploration/ mineral acquisition-







So people have complained since the launch that there is

absolutely no exploration of the planets that we land on. Unlike in ME1 we

didn’t have a actual exploration vehicle at launch, and arguably till this day.

The idea to fix this could go like this. We find a planet that you want to see

if there is action going down. Scan the planet to see if anything is happening,

but you will not be doing the planet wide game that we are doing currently. How

would we get our resources? Well the scanner would say if there is any action,

or any resources that might be on the planet. If there were minerals then you

would drop down in the vehicle and explore the landscape for the minerals.

Similar to the mineral acquisition in ME1 but with a twist, which would require

you having a construction, droid drop down from the Normandy and build an

extractor. This extractor would over time give you minerals of the kind you

wanted to harvest. There would be a prompt in the mineral screen, which will

tell you the “health” of your mineral field. If it is getting depleted then it

stops sending minerals to you.







Inventory and upgrades







Ok so good deal of people were furious because of the lack

of weapons and options on customization. The first gave us a haphazard

inventory system that was overly complicated for some (personally have no issue

with the first system but I am a sucker for customization) people. So I would

use the ME2 system that we currently have but tweek it so that we can customize

our character and have a feeling of accomplishment when we take down a huge

fortress. So just like in the current system you will be able to look at the

weapon/ armor of choice and load up expandable options. An example of this is

getting new sniper rifle barrel and you want to add it to your super awesome

gun. Well you would go to one of the weapon stations and replace the barrel

section. Replacing the ammo types from a power to a purchased item is just

necessary! For the life of me I couldn’t figure out why they had replaced that.

Similar things can be used to improve your armor, or you could just replace it

with a better system.







Missions becoming more

epic!!!







So I can’t stress that more! The current missions in ME2

feel like they are not very drawing or epic. As they stand right now they are

just a few minutes of bleh to give credence to having new squad members. The

other problem that shows up is like in ME1 you have good storyline missions but

the areas that the missions are located look exactly the same. So we need to

look at how missions are structured. Instead of bland missions that don’t

further the story we need ones that are more pushing the story and stressing

the action packed nature from the story mission in ME1. ME2 also had some

pretty killer missions that furthered the story and had a good deal of action.

Why they decided to pack the game full of bland missions is beyond me. A good

way to make the missions more action packed is by involving all your darn team.

The last mission required you to use the entire team, which was awesome idea.

We have over 10 squad mates and we only use 2 at a time. Granted we are going

to keep the three man system we have now but you could give the them a

different a objective to obtain. An example of this is like ME1 when your on

virmire and you have to attack the lab. You split up with other team, which

they have a goal to achieve just as you do. You can help them along with

certain actions and I think that should transfer. Depending on loyalty of your

crew depends on how hard they fight and the coordination of the attack. So in

effect if you end ME2 and your surviving crew isn’t loyal (don’t think it is

possible but hear me out) then you would have to fight to gain it because they

will not fight as hard.







Thinking about this mission structure logically you will see

that any military with its’ grain of salt has more than one team doing the

fighting for an objective. Why is Shepard doing it that way? If you involve

your entire crew and give a unique location majority of the time and you will

have a 10 out of 10 game.







Fighting needs tweeking!







I know that ME2 had a better handle on the fighting aspect

of the game but seriously we have see more than enough wack a mole style of

cover based shooters. Give us something new to the idea if your going to stick

with that. Personally I would like to vary up the combat to improvise what you

need to do to kill something. An example of this is using pull on a object so

it swings over to crush the guys you were trying to kill. This has you working

with your environment and spices up the combat an extra step. That being said I

will say this again ME2 was a better combat experience but needed to be fixed

even further than they went.







DLC that freaking matter!







I am willing to pay for DLC! Also believe me that I am not

complaining about overlord or any of the free DLC. But the apperance packs and

the extra squad mate DLC should have been free. They add next to nothing in

story, if they have a mission it takes no time to finish. The Kasumi mission

was short and to add insult to injury you only get one mission. Really bioware

she is going to be loyal to you just by doing one mission. All but one of the

pay for content was a slap in the face to loyal fans. I am not going to

complain if you take a few months extra to bring out a DLC that is bigger and

furthers the story. Right now if you finish the game you can go back to your

squad mates and they still talk as if they are about to die on the final

mission. And if you go back to the human representative at the citadel you get

the same old line. Also dealing with the Liara v Shadow broker thing, where is

our explanation? I would have loved to have a side mission where I have to hunt

down some stuff for her. I would have taken down the entire empire of lies for

her. But we get no such luck, well just yet anyway.







Again if I hear “don’t buy it then” I will tell you to GTFO

for trolling and for not furthering the conversation.







Lastly the vehicle







My only complaint in the current vehicle is the lack of

armor on this thing. It is like I have paper mache armor and if I get shot I am

going to be in a world of hurt. The maco took a hell of a lot of damage before

you died. It made life a bit easier but with the controls on it you would

understand the need for good armor. Also another thing that the maco had was a

secondary gun. The missiles are wonderful but come on guys give me something

cooler. My idea was a hover tank (that didn’t freeze up in cold temps. For the

love of god if your on a planet with no atmosphere then the tank would do

nothing.) with a pair of rocket launchers which do the same attacking as the

current system does but with a central cannon similar to the maco. This little

ball of death would have enough armor to take a few to the face but the

flexibility to float around the enemy while dealing massive amounts of

death.







So again any ideas on how to improve my idea then feel free.

I have read a good deal of forums and came up with a hybrid of ideas I have

created and others have thought up. I think it would make ME3 sell really well.

#223
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so in a word I will be disappointed if they don't improve the next game.

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ME2 nuff said

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Darth_Trethon wrote...

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

Technically the characters in DA all had predefined last names...


Technically yes.....but 6 alltogether. Nobody really ever expected that to be voiced. This time around there's only ONE last name.

7, actually, human and elf mages have a different one.