For me that is somewhat of a deal-breaker. I'll still keep an eye out and might still try it, but being forced into playing a certain character is a huge turn off for me. That is why I can't get into games like the Witcher even though it is good in other respects. I want to be the creater of my protagonist. I don't want to play someone that is given to me. I don't like to play humans. I know I am in the minority in this, but I am a human in real life. I want to pretend to be something different.
In fact being able to totally customize the PC was the only thing I wanted or expected out of DA2. I didn't mind if it was set in a different place, with different companions and the PC as someone other than the Warden... But to me an rpg just isn't an rpg if I can't choose exactly who I am playing in any given setting. This is a big disappointment to me.
Is anyone else really disappointed that we can't choose race in DA2?
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Posté 09 juillet 2010 - 12:07
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No, not particularly.
I think there can always be fan made mods to fix that.
I think there can always be fan made mods to fix that.
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Posté 09 juillet 2010 - 12:11
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Link please?
And what are we only able to play as a human male then I am out of here faster than Lohan will be out of jail.
And what are we only able to play as a human male then I am out of here faster than Lohan will be out of jail.
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Posté 09 juillet 2010 - 12:12
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Not dissapointed. Rather worried at the implications.
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Posté 09 juillet 2010 - 12:12
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I have MANY disappointments. Even though I almost always play as human, I'm sorry to see them change it, as it seems to be part of the general trend of abandoning the things I liked about Origins in favor of moving away from RPG to action. Theres a reason I never bought either of the Mass Effect games. The press releases read like 'why you won't like this game' to me. And some of it was just stupid from a PR point of view, almost designed to ****** people off. I haven't seen anything that ham handed since SyFy execs tried to talk up Stargate Universe. Oh, wait... Yes I have. BP's testimony in Congress.... But that's neither here not there.
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Posté 09 juillet 2010 - 12:13
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Posté 09 juillet 2010 - 12:15
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The loss of the origins is a major disappointment to me. I was prepared to handle any other disappointments, but to me the origins were what made this game unique among RPGs.
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Posté 09 juillet 2010 - 12:22
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Well I'm pretty sure that you can choose gender, but to me that doesn't matter because you are still playing a certain character with a certain past and even a given name.
I never played Mass Effect 1 or 2, again because you are forced into playing a certain character. I just don't like games like that. It's why I don't play a whole lot of games. It's a shame because I thought I had stepped into something special with DA, but I guess not (well at least not beyond the first game).
I never played Mass Effect 1 or 2, again because you are forced into playing a certain character. I just don't like games like that. It's why I don't play a whole lot of games. It's a shame because I thought I had stepped into something special with DA, but I guess not (well at least not beyond the first game).
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Posté 09 juillet 2010 - 12:29
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certain character with a certain past
Who is to say you won't have a choice between your past life in Dragon Age 2? You have that choice in Mass Effect.
You can either be a Colonist, who lost everything when alien slave traders attacked and enslaved or killed your entire family. A spacer, who was born and raised in military family on space ships, or a Earthborn, a orphan born on the streets with no family raised in gangs.
Then you have your military service. You can either be a ruthless bastard who gets the job done no matter the cost in lives, a hero who fought a battalion almost single handedly and saved a colony or a survivor from a attack that wiped out your entire platoon.
Honestly to say that Mass Effect sets you with only a certain past for Shepard is insulting towards the game, although those past choices don't play so much a role in the game as the origins do in Dragon Age, they do allow you to RP into what kind of person you want your Shepard to be.
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Posté 09 juillet 2010 - 12:29
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Not really disappointed, so long as I can play the character however I like I'm fine with it, I just hope you don't have to look like the concept with his amish beard.
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Posté 09 juillet 2010 - 12:43
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Costin_Razvan wrote...
certain character with a certain past
Who is to say you won't have a choice between your past life in Dragon Age 2? You have that choice in Mass Effect.
You can either be a Colonist, who lost everything when alien slave traders attacked and enslaved or killed your entire family. A spacer, who was born and raised in military family on space ships, or a Earthborn, a orphan born on the streets with no family raised in gangs.
Then you have your military service. You can either be a ruthless bastard who gets the job done no matter the cost in lives, a hero who fought a battalion almost single handedly and saved a colony or a survivor from a attack that wiped out your entire platoon.
Honestly to say that Mass Effect sets you with only a certain past for Shepard is insulting towards the game, although those past choices don't play so much a role in the game as the origins do in Dragon Age, they do allow you to RP into what kind of person you want your Shepard to be.
I didn't mean Mass Effect specifically because I have never played it and don't know much about it. I was just saying that I have run into a lot of games like that and they don't interest me. For me the more customization, the better...from backstories, to gender, race and class and the way the character looks. The immersion is better for me then.
I also find it odd that DA:O would have such customization, yet the next game in the series doesn't. I understand that a lot of people enjoy games that set up the character for you, but there are already a lot of games like that. I thought DA was going to be different. Like I said, I understand changing the setting, the companions, or what quest you are on...but I thought the basics would stay the same (such as character customization and different choices in each quest) since it has the same name. To me it's kind of like buying a new Sims game and discovering that you are now given your computer family and the house they will live in and you can't change it.
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Posté 09 juillet 2010 - 12:45
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I would say I'm really disappointed. I mean, they could still pull out a really good game with just that one character --it's not like I've never played a pre-determined character in a video game before and thoroughly enjoyed myself-- but it's not what I expected from a Dragon Age game. It's also rather disturbing to me that Bioware would disregard one of the key elements that makes this game stand out from all those other set-character games --the variety and depth of the different cultures (and the attachments we form to the ones we adopt), the amazingly diverse range of experiences that are possible over any number of replays-- and just throw it away. I hope they have something else planned for DA2 that will make up for this, but if they're just concerned with getting a sequel out as quickly as possible and they don't want to spend extra time programming all the different races, I say spend the time! I've got plenty more playthroughs of Origins ahead of me before I can even imagine getting tired of it.
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Posté 09 juillet 2010 - 12:46
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More nervous then disappointed.
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Posté 09 juillet 2010 - 12:48
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Costin_Razvan wrote...
certain character with a certain past
Who is to say you won't have a choice between your past life in Dragon Age 2? You have that choice in Mass Effect.
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They did.
You are a human commoner from a village in the Free Marches, and you survived the Blight while noone else did and start the game off as a penniless refugee.
That's it, you don't get a Option B.
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Posté 09 juillet 2010 - 12:51
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Oh, and even though I pretty much always picked human as my race, I do find it disappointing that they took out the option to be a dwarf or elf in the second game. You can't tell me the Marches didn't have city elves or casteless that could have easily lived in the town alongside the humans.
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Posté 09 juillet 2010 - 12:51
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In ME1 you start the game as Anderson's XO and become a Spectre. There's no option B. What they did and what DA2 could conceivably do is give you some leeway on your past.Swoo wrote...
Costin_Razvan wrote...
certain character with a certain past
Who is to say you won't have a choice between your past life in Dragon Age 2? You have that choice in Mass Effect.
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They did.
You are a human commoner from a village in the Free Marches, and you survived the Blight while noone else did and start the game off as a penniless refugee.
That's it, you don't get a Option B.
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Posté 09 juillet 2010 - 12:53
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dream_operator23 wrote...
Well I'm pretty sure that you can choose gender, but to me that doesn't matter because you are still playing a certain character with a certain past and even a given name.
I never played Mass Effect 1 or 2, again because you are forced into playing a certain character. I just don't like games like that. It's why I don't play a whole lot of games. It's a shame because I thought I had stepped into something special with DA, but I guess not (well at least not beyond the first game).
But the origin stories also force you into a certain character. A character you can customize and mold as you like, but it's still a predetermined character (cousland daughter/son, aeducan heir, mahariel clan member, etc.). The only difference is that you could choose between them.
And seriously, how many games have you played if you restrict yourself so much?
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It's also rather disturbing to me that Bioware would disregard one of the key elements that makes this game stand out from all those other set-character games --the variety and depth of the different cultures (and the attachments we form to the ones we adopt), the amazingly diverse range of experiences that are possible over any number of replays-- and just throw it away.
Yes. One of the things I love about this board is all of the characters I see as posters avatars and how remarkably different they all are. And they all have different stories and though we all go through the same game, one just has to read just about any big thread to see how someone's race, gender and origin really changed the gameplay up from someone else's playthrough. Players took those origins, (though brief and maybe not mentioned as much in the rest of the game as they should have been) and built their characters around them. They influenced the rest of the story we were telling about our Wardens. That is what I look for in a game. The ability to tell my story as best as I can in its set perimeters. Maybe that is not something that most gamers look for, but to me it makes a much better experience.
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Posté 09 juillet 2010 - 12:54
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Well, the pictures were taken from youtube and so it was a guy DN with coloring I didn't like. And you rarely ever look that upset. Maybe when you're standing at Cailan's body but I still don't get why I'd really be that distraught.Herr Uhl wrote...
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This was my reaction.
The irony being that all of the sad dwarves are NPC:s.
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Posté 09 juillet 2010 - 12:56
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I do find it somewhat disappointing that you can't choose a race, not so much for myself since I almost always choose humans, but for those who loved the other races.
Still, it's by no means a deal breaker for me. Not being able to choose a gender would've been but thankfully it's been confirmed that you can choose your gender.
Still, it's by no means a deal breaker for me. Not being able to choose a gender would've been but thankfully it's been confirmed that you can choose your gender.
